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Brief Note Re: the Cordoba House Controversy

At some point, I, Reihan Salam, intend to weigh in with my thoughts on the controversies surrounding Cordoba House and various mosques across the United States. For now, I’ll just point out that Josh Barro is the author of the last and only post on the subject we’ve run in this space, and I think he raises a number of valuable points. 

A number of readers have shared their thoughts on Cordoba House, and one recurring theme is the notion that Islam is not a religion but rather a kind of martial ideology. I am not an expert on Islam or religion more broadly. My understanding of these issues is limited, and you’re welcome to take my observations with a grain of salt. As far as I can tell, Islam, like Christianity, is a broad term that captures a number of distinctive traditions, practices, and ideas that manifest themselves in a large, and indeed increasingly large, number of sects or denominations. And of course there have been military-political organizations that see themselves as an authentic expression of the one true belief system.

Just as Pentecostalism has experienced explosive growth over the course of the last hundred years or so, there are certain tendencies within Sunni Islam that have grown rapidly in recent decades due to a combination of factors: the oil-driven wealth boom in the Gulf states, globalization that has undermined second-tier lingua francas, the rise of anti-colonialist nationalism, and the rise of market-driven liberal individualism that has undermined traditional patterns of patriarchal authority, the multi-generational household, and settled cultural communities. These “ultra-Orthodox” tendencies in Sunni Islam are very different from conservative Christian practices in the North America, Europe, and Latin America and their cultural offshoots, though there are some parallels to how Christianity and Islam are practiced and deployed in sub-Saharan Africa. The big differences relate, I suspect, to levels of cultural and intellectual and economic development, all of which, of course, are intertwined.

As a historical matter, ultra-Orthodox Sunni Islam, with its origins in the Wahhabi and Deobandi schools, has proven ferociously hostile to traditional Islamic pluralism. Because Islam spread far beyond its Arabic-speaking heartland, it evolved as it encountered new cultural circumstances. In much of South Asia, for example, it was common for practicing Muslims to honor the indigenous religious practices — we now call these diverse religious practices “Hinduism,” as the native religions of India have been increasingly “Abrahamized” in light of the competitive pressures posed by Islam and to a lesser extent Christianity — of their regions and communities, while Hindus would celebrate various Sufi saints. Suffice it to say, this was anathema to the ultra-Orthodox.

I’m simplifying matters here to say the very least, but I think it’s important for people to understand that there really are conflicts within what we call Islam. It is not a single thing. Rather, it is a lot of different things. Some of these things — militaristic, xenophobic, misogynistic Islamism, to name but one example — are by any objective standard noxious forces, and the driver of lethal attacks on Americans and also Israelis, Bengalis, Malays, and many other people. We can all agree on that. 

Islamism, however, is not identical to Islam. Within Islam, there are many other traditions and tendencies, some of which are more compatible with modernity than others.

I’m not sure exactly what’s going on with this new set of controversies over Islam and the role of American Muslims in our public life. I wouldn’t say I’m a very religiously observant person, but the observant Muslims I know best are my parents. Both of my parents have lived in New York city for over thirty years. Both of them worked in the World Trade Center in the 1980s, when I was a kid. Some of my fondest memories of growing up involve visiting them at work, and watching the 4th of July fireworks display from my dad’s office window. They were born in a country (Bangladesh) where Islamist terrorists have killed a large number of people in bomb attacks and acid attacks, and they lived through a savage and mostly forgotten war in which over 1 million Bengali Muslims were tortured and killed in part because they were accused of being “polytheists,” etc. That is, armed cadres of proto-Islamists were killing Muslims who had a different way of seeing the world and practicing their religion.

So that’s part of where I’m coming from: the idea that Islam is one thing or that all Muslims are the same strikes me as highly unlikely. This is part of why I think it is perfectly legitimate for people like Stephen Schwartz to raise questions about what the actual people involved in Cordoba House have said about Hezbollah and U.S. foreign policy. I don’t necessarily agree with Stephen’s conclusions — I don’t know enough to say, but I know the editors of the Weekly Standard well enough to know that they aren’t irrational bigots (as some people suggest) — but I think it is totally fair game to learn about what is motivating the players. 

I do worry, however, that there is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding going on in this controversy. Part of the problem is that this kind of debate lends itself to shouting: one side calls the other side bigots, the other side believes that it is being lied to, etc. I have conflicting impulses in such a debate: on the one hand, I resent it when people I know and trust are called bigots when they are raising objections founded in sincere beliefs that have nothing to do with animosity towards a group. And I also remember when the fight against the supposed threat posed by DP Ports World and CNOOC saw a different group of political entrepreneurs profit from what was essentially a cultural controversy. On the other hand, I find myself confused and disappointed when elected officials argue that Islam — again, a big, unwieldy, diverse category — is best described as a series of cults. 

Ross Douthat has written a wonderful column on Cordoba House that captures my feelings almost perfectly. I’ve talked to Ross and other friends about the controversy, and it’s sharpened my sense that my beliefs reflect the particular circumstances in which I was raised. This is why, in my view, empathy is so important when we engage in this kind of a conversation.

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   08/16/10 11:56

Mr. Salam:

I think, to take what you and Mr. Douthat say to another level, that this mosque controversy is 90 percent domestic culture-war politics (and 10 percent Muslim cluelessness, grounded in cultural chauvinism and the religion's objective teaching).

To use Mr. Douthat's terminology, the "e pluribus" and the "unum" have each decided that the other is essentially illegitimate and only acts in bad faith. Thus, the "unum" are essentially bigots (and everything they do provides further confirmation), and the "e pluribus" are essentially cosmopolitan traitors (and everything they do provides further confirmation).

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   08/16/10 14:51

This is a very thoughtful article but I think it worthwhile to add that the intentions of the mosque's supporters, both muslim and non-muslim, American and foreign, is not helped by the fact that none of them are pushing as hard for either 1) the completion of a 9/11 memorial or 2) the rebuilding of the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox church that had existed on Liberty St. since 1922, and that was demolished in the 9/11 attack. The latter project's progress has in fact been halted by NYC officials for zoning violations (building height in particular) that are far exceeded by the mosque's design. It is not irrational to infer from such behavior preferential treatment rather than tolerance.

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   08/16/10 14:56

First, as this is my first post to this blog, which I have been enjoying for the last several months, let me say thank you for opening up this space for discussion. I hope that those of us who choose to comment here can create a space for ideas that is worthy of Mr. Salam's excellent commentary and analysis.

That being said, I am sympathetic to the general concepts that you have expressed here...it is always wise to avoid the name calling and to try and be empathetic to the multitude of views that arise in these discussions.

However, I am surprised to see you embrace Mr. Douthat's column so emphatically. Even if you accept his premise that we need to have the ugly, unpleasant approach to encourage assimilation by immigrants (which I'm not convinced of), it doesn't seem that the problem with the Muslim community in America is that they won't/haven't assimilated.

The US is clearly not without Muslims who interpret Islam in the most extreme ways - as seen in the arrests of small groups of islamic radicals in the country and the obvious example that the 9/11 terrorists were here for quite some time prior to 9/11. However, the overwhelming majority of Muslims have been comfortably living alongside non-Muslims for decades in this country...the idea that Muslims in America have resisted assimilation (as Mr. Douthat seems to imply) simply doesn't seem to be consistent with anecdotal observation...As someone raised by Muslim-American parents, I am surprised that you are not less comfortable with the picture painted by Mr. Douthat.

Finally, I would simply argue that the rhetoric against building the Islamic Community Center and Mosque seems to be one of the biggest roadblocks to the type of assimilation that is needed to have an integrated, cohesive, and healthy society - the "unum" that Mr. Douthat speaks of. When the most extreme opponents begin questioning whether Islam is even consistent with our constitution (see the comments section for Mr. Barro's piece), we are heading down a path that will alienate all Muslims with our society.

As you (Mr. Salam) point out, Islam is too diverse to lump into a single bucket. I do not think that directing our outrage at Muslim Americans living in lower Manhattan who want a community center and place of worship is doing anything to bring about the "unum."

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   08/16/10 15:15

Yes, Islam is made up of many cults, just like Christianity and all other religions.
What worries me most is that this is not just a religion with some of these Muslim cults but reaches far into their governmental order.
Most worrisome is the duty of some factions to destroy all who do not convert to Islam. It is up to Muslims to make sure that these radicals do not become to viewed as representative of all Muslims. Until now, few have spoken out with any force to convince a populace. Those that have spoken out are viewed condoning the most heinous destruction of innocent life, both non-Muslim and Muslim.
There are too many instances in history where Muslims built their mosques to show they conquered. None have yet convinced me that this is not a triumphal structure.

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   08/16/10 15:11

Yes, Islam is made up of many cults, just like Christianity and all other religions.
What worries me most is that this is not just a religion with some of these Muslim cults but reaches far into their governmental order.
Most worrisome is the duty of some factions to destroy all who do not convert to Islam. It is up to Muslims to make sure that these radicals do not become to viewed as representative of all Muslims. Until now, few have spoken out with any force to convince a populace. Those that have spoken out are viewed condoning the most heinous destruction of innocent life, both non-Muslim and Muslim.
There are too many instances in history where Muslims built their mosques to show they conquered. None have yet convinced me that this is not a triumphal structure.

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   08/16/10 15:11

Yes, Islam is made up of many cults, just like Christianity and all other religions.
What worries me most is that this is not just a religion with some of these Muslim cults but reaches far into their governmental order.
Most worrisome is the duty of some factions to destroy all who do not convert to Islam. It is up to Muslims to make sure that these radicals do not become to viewed as representative of all Muslims. Until now, few have spoken out with any force to convince a populace. Those that have spoken out are viewed condoning the most heinous destruction of innocent life, both non-Muslim and Muslim.
There are too many instances in history where Muslims built their mosques to show they conquered. None have yet convinced me that this is not a triumphal structure.

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