I’d like to make a very simple argument about Warren Buffett: I think that we should evaluate Buffett’s arguments as we would the arguments of an economist at the University of Chicago or Iowa, or a research associate at the Center for American Progress or the Heritage Foundation, or the founder of a successful hog farm or a boutique nail salon or a consumer internet business. Buffett’s arguments aren’t new, and they aren’t, in my view, convincing or even interesting. I recognize that at least some people will lend more credence to Buffett’s belief that he and other successful investors and entrepreneurs should pay higher taxes because he is “putting his money where his mouth is,” not unlike a young adult calling for the restoration of military conscription.
I guess there’s something interesting about, say, a 19-year-old upper-middle-class student at an elite university telling the reading public that she should be required to fight and die in Iraq and Afghanistan alongside people from different social backgrounds, e.g., volunteers from families with a tradition of military service. I’d be more interested in the question of whether conscription would give us a more effective military, that could achieve the strategic objectives set out by our elected leaders at the lowest possible cost in human lives and material resources. One could argue that the military is a distinctive institution in a democracy, and that a focus on cost effectiveness is bloodless and wrongheaded in the extreme, e.g., the idea shared national sacrifice should be at the heart of how we shape our military institutions. I don’t find this view very credible, and I imagine that it would be exceptionally difficult to implement in practice. But of course sentiments on this question will vary.
As for tax policy, what really matters is how rates and structure shape the broader economic environment. More narrowly, I think it is reasonable to place somewhat heavier emphasis on how tax policy impacts the long-term interests of those in, say, the bottom half of the wealth and income distribution, or the bottom third or the bottom tenth.
There is a great deal of disagreement regarding the policy mix that best serves the interests of the broader economy. Part of the problem is that there are many moving pieces and confounding variables, and we don’t have, and we might never have, good experimental knowledge on core public policy questions. Like Buffett, and unlike many of my fellow conservatives, I tend to think that we might need somewhat higher tax revenues in the medium-term. Unlike Buffett, I believe that raising marginal tax rates is not the best way to raise revenue.
I’m of the view that conservatives should only agree to higher tax revenues in exchange for structural entitlement reform, which, so far at least, hasn’t been on the table. (And by structural reform, I mean something along the lines of the Medicare competitive pricing concept we’ve discussed in this space.) Indeed, I find it strange that any sensible person would talk about the tax system in isolation from what the tax system should actually buy.
There are a number of red flags in Buffett’s op-ed, and I’m afraid I can’t tackle them all. I will not a handful of them:
Since 1992, the I.R.S. has compiled data from the returns of the 400 Americans reporting the largest income. In 1992, the top 400 had aggregate taxable income of $16.9 billion and paid federal taxes of 29.2 percent on that sum. In 2008, the aggregate income of the highest 400 had soared to $90.9 billion — a staggering $227.4 million on average — but the rate paid had fallen to 21.5 percent.
I’m curious: does Buffett think that it is a coincidence that aggregate income has soared as the rate paid has decreased? He might argue, reasonably enough, that there are underlying factors that account for the surge in income, and that the highest earners haven’t been responding to tax incentives. The global economy has changed in important ways that have redounded to the benefit of high earners. But if that is true, he might want to revisit the previous paragraph:
People invest to make money, and potential taxes have never scared them off. And to those who argue that higher rates hurt job creation, I would note that a net of nearly 40 million jobs were added between 1980 and 2000. You know what’s happened since then: lower tax rates and far lower job creation.
Could it be that that job creation has been weak due to a number of complicated factors, e.g., labor market regulation, the rising cost of non-cash compensation, changing dynamics with the nontradabale and tradable sectors of the economy, a “global labor glut,” etc.? Might job creation have been worse in the absence of changes to the tax code?
Warren Buffett is obviously an exceptionally brilliant person, and a legend in his own time. His advocacy for higher taxes on the rich has won him the adulation of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people, not just in the United States. Adulation, alas, can’t be taxed, which makes me wonder if Buffett is shrewdly diversifying his asset base.
I don't believe Mr. Buffet has the best interests of the USA at heart.
What he wants is not that HE pay higher taxes, but that OTHERS pay higher taxes.
He makes a lot of money by providing "insurance" policies meant to avoid gift & inheritance taxes.
If taxes go up, Buffet makes more money.
Kind of like that turd (his name escapes me at the moment) who is selling the wind power snake oil because he owns a lot of natural gas pipelines etc. and he knows wind is for show only, and so power companies would have to build a lot of natural gas - fired backup power plants.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseT Boone Pickens...
that's the snake-oil salesman who is (I hope) laying low.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"Could it be that that job creation has been weak due to a number of complicated factors, e.g., labor market regulation, the rising cost of non-cash compensation, changing dynamics with the nontradabale and tradable sectors of the economy, a “global labor glut,” etc.?"
You seem to be agreeing with Buffett here. The point he's making is that, contrary to the predictions of the doomsayers on the right, raising tax rates doesn't appear to deter investors very much. At least it didn't back when we had higher tax rates. Ergo, something else must be driving investment.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYou're kidding, right? So the answer ot all the moving parts making it too complicated to understand how taxes influence job creation, etc., is to maintain capital gains taxes at 15%. Really? You mean as the richest have gained, by far, the most over the last 30 years? But these investments shouldn;t be taxed at "normal" rates? I see.
Nice try but why don;t you make a separate posting on how taxes are spent......this is about tax fairness not tax spending. But i get it, taxes are spent poorly so lets maintain a p#ss-poor tax system. Got it.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNote bene: a reduction of Buffett's argument is simply that high earners pay less than others because they take those earnings in a tax-favored way, therefore we should raise taxes on them. This prescription is (for the time being) agnostic between a wide array of ideological positions; the only one it adamantly rejects is a regressive tax structure and it is orthogonal to several.
Obviously, though, Buffett would go further towards progressive taxation on vaguely moralistic grounds. I am not surprised you are unconvinced, however, since the view you espouse here is entirely orthogonal to his and likewise agnostic between nearly all ideological positions.
Given just how quickly the waters can muddy, I'd wager that you don't have particularly strong views about taxation (alternatively, that you'd have a hard time supporting them without abandoning the argument you make today). The positions you take in this space from time-to-time seem to reflect that.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYawn. Another Buffett proclamation about how it's good for citizens to pay more taxes. Let's see, the guy is an investor, always has been. From his point of view, it wouldn't make a difference because he's made a humpty-billion from his investments, and profits handsomely from his connections with Democratic Party leaders. He's not an entrepreneur per se, the only business he really has done is investing. Being a smart investor doesn't mean he understands or appreciates the problems other businesses have with the current tax system.
He's more than welcome to donate his billions to the Federal government. Otherwise, he can shove it. I'm not paying more taxes because Warren Buffett says it is a good idea.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt's amazing: conservatives can see right through a quid pro quo when the subject is wind power. But oil industry dollars that fund climate denial? Financial industry insiders manning every regulating body on Wall Street? "Move along, nothing to see here, Al Gore thinks he invented the internet, leftist socialism treason jihad."
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