To be a Democrat means to live in denial. Consider all of the things you must ignore or explain away:
The PIGS. Not the chauvinist pigs whose transgressions preoccupied feminists in the 1970s, but PIGS as in Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain — nations facing sovereign-debt crises because they pursued exactly the sort of policies Democrats favor for this country. The PIGS share bloated government sectors (in Greece the government employs 33 percent of workers), generous unemployment packages, high minimum wages, dire pension obligations, and shrinking tax bases. Each week brings fresh news of turmoil in the streets.
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Here is a June account from CBS News that Democrats will want to ignore:
To see a country truly on the brink of financial ruin, look no further than Greece. On Wednesday, its Parliament cut public services and raised taxes to fend off bankruptcy and probably spare the world another mass economic meltdown, at least for now . . . as parliament did what it could politically, protesters turned Athens into a war zone.
The protests are understandable (if not excusable). When debt-ridden states face bankruptcy, it is always at a time of economic distress. In good times, after all, tax receipts increase. So just when jobs are scarce and times are difficult — just when a greater than usual number of people are collecting unemployment and other benefits — the government is forced to impose austerity.
Would it have been better to have made smaller reductions in benefits earlier? Yes. Would it have been even more desirable not to accustom so many citizens to government largesse? Don’t ask a Democrat.
Also in economic intensive care is Portugal. Here’s the Los Angeles Times’s account:
Analysts expect that Lisbon will ultimately need up to $115 billion in loans and guarantees. The amount would be covered fairly comfortably by the bailout fund created by the EU last year to address the widening euro debt crisis, but would come with stringent conditions that Lisbon rein in public spending. Last month, Prime Minister Jose Socrates failed to win parliamentary approval for a fourth round of austerity measures within a year, which prompted him to resign and his Socialist Party-led minority government to collapse.”
Democrats will not want to dwell on the fact that the European Union will not be bailing out the United States. In fact, no one will be available to bail out the U.S.
Chile. At the other end of the economic spectrum, Democrats must ignore Chile’s remarkable success with privatizing its social-security program. Thirty years ago, facing a pension overhang similar to our own, Chile adopted a policy that nearly all Democrats regard with horror: They privatized their pension system. Not all at once; those who were already retired were grandfathered into the existing system. New workers were required to participate in the private retirement-account program. All other workers were offered a choice to remain with the old system or switch tothe new one. Ninety-three percent chose private accounts, conservatively managed.
How has it turned out? Over the course of three decades, despite ups and downs in the market as well as terrible earthquakes, these accounts have averaged returns 9.23 percentage points above inflation. Social Security, by contrast, averages returns of about 1 percent. In the United States, the elderly are wards of the state. Each Chilean, by contrast, has ownership of his account. He or she can pass any unused portion on to children and grandchildren. When New York Times reporter John Tierney worked out his own Social Security contributions on the Chilean model, he found that his privatized pension would have been $53,000 a year plus a one-time payout of $223,000. The same contributions paid into the American Social Security system would have paid him $18,000 a year.
Chile’s free-market policies have made it one of the wealthiest nations in the Western hemisphere, with the highest nominal GDP in Latin America. Its pension reform has so far been copied by 30 nations.
Perhaps Chile, so far from Washington, D.C., is too easy to ignore. But what about Galveston, Texas? It seems that 30 years ago, far-sighted leaders took advantage of an opt-out clause (since removed) in the Social Security law, and put county employees into private pension accounts. Galveston’s employees take home pensions with 7 percent annual return compounded over 30 years, compared with Social Security’s 1 percent.
Democrats must — simply must — deny that privatization provides far superior outcomes, because the truth is that independent, self-sufficient, non-needy citizens have little use for a party whose entire rationale is “Let Me Take Care of You” by taxing someone else.
Your point? Is it that we might be 1,824% better than Chile because we have that many more people? Or that we so much more in natural resources than Chile that we should far surpass them?
You typically make some relevant points. This one is dumb and shows a total disregard for common sense.
Mona, you are correct in your assumptions. But as long as Democrats can use government entitlements to buy votes they will never give privatization a chance to work.
I fear that when the real collaspe happens our people will panic and we will act just like the people of Greece. This is when the harshest class warefare will reach fruition.
MikeB, 17 million people and abundant natural resources mean what exactly? I'll tell you what that means, pretty much nothing in regards to them privatizing their retirement plan and having it's outcome be vastly superior to our national ponzi scheme called Social Security.
Sorry, I forgot, liberals don't try to make a case based on logic and facts. You much prefer to try and blame your opponents for throwing granny off a cliff while ignoring the fact that your policies are really to blame...
"Chile has 17 million people and tons of natural resources."
Whereas America is virtually out of coal, oil, shale, natural gas, uranium, lumber, rivers that can be dammed for hydroelectric power, agriculture, labor, and manufacturing?
And how is your statement a refutation of the efficacy of privatized retirement plans?
The author pointed out that Galveston opted out of social security and its retirees have benefits that make SS laughable.
I'm assuming Galveston has a smaller population than Chile. I doubt anyone in Chile ever said, "Sure, it works in Galveston...but we have 17 million people!"
At what population size do you reach the tipping point where it no longer makes economic sense to invest in a money market account or cd for your retirement, earning 5 percent in compounded interest on an amount you can leave to your children on your death?
When does it make more sense to instead switch to a ponzi scheme earning basically no interest and disappears after you die?
Here's the kicker. If you could have all your FICA back now, and never deducted again, with the stipulation that YOU have to prepare for your own retirement, would you?
"At what population size do you reach the tipping point where it no longer makes economic sense to invest in a money market account or cd for your retirement, earning 5 percent in compounded interest on an amount you can leave to your children on your death?"
And what exactly does Social Security invest in?
"When does it make more sense to instead switch to a ponzi scheme earning basically no interest and disappears after you die?"
Isn't that what Social Security is?
"Here's the kicker. If you could have all your FICA back now, and never deducted again, with the stipulation that YOU have to prepare for your own retirement, would you?"
Isn't that how life was before there was such a thing as Social Security? And why the stress of a stipulation? If there is no false retirement scheme like Social Security, people will still save their own money with or without stipulation. If people don't save their own money, isn't it their own fault that they would live in poverty in their old age? Whatever happened to the moral of the story of the ant and the grasshopper?
I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but you're dead wrong about the coal, oil, shale, natural gas, uranium, lumber, rivers that can be dammed for hydroelectric power, agriculture, labor, and manufacturing which you indicate the USA is "...almost out of..."
You are either bad at sarcasm or bad at reading comprehension. The author states that those too old to benefit were grandfathered in and allowed to continue on the current system and those in the muddled middle were allowed to choose which path they prefered.
If you were being sarcastic, excuse my other charges. If you were being serious, well then I'm sorry for other things.
Chrisboltssr, exactly right. That's how life was before Social Security.
The need preceded the program.
The plain fact is that people make little mistakes that have profound consequences. There's a reason for insurance in this world, and that's what Social Security is. No, I wouldn't expect everyone to have the steadfastness of purpose and clarity of mind to invest $X annually -- "things come up," as we all know, and what do you know, you wake up one day and realize it's too late.
So as to a certain basic level of care, it's very appropriate to have programs in place to make sure that you don't starve to death or die of an easily treatable disease just because you were imprudent. A liberal as a general rule believes that no person is so stupid that they ought to die because of their own poor judgment.
Why on Earth do you liberals always want to take care of everyone and protect them like children? You act like it's the government's job/purpose? It wasn't intended to be, it isn't supposed to be, and it shouldn't be.
The idea that you should make me responsible for John Doe's stupid decisions is the root cause of our current disagreements (liberal v. conservative) about everything from the debt ceiling to SS to Medi-scare to entitlement reform, etc., etc., etc....to infinity.
Taxes are supposed to be for running the government as intended - to provide for a common defense, protect our borders, and to keep an ordered and law abiding society. You'll no doubt bring up a 'general welfare' argument because I didn't put that in the previous sentence.
I have seen you drone on about the general welfare stuff before. You, of all people, should understand that the word welfare then and the word welfare now carry two COMPLETELY different meanings and have nothing to do with the entitlement society we have turned into. So save it and admit that you want to punish me for being thrifty, smart, hard working. It'll save us all a lot of time.
More importantly, the writers of the Constitution viewed the General Welfare clause has conferring no additional powers on the federal government not else where enumerated in the Constitutions. Or as Jefferson says better that I:
"[O]ur tenet ever was, and, indeed, it is almost the only landmark which now divides the federalists from the republicans, that Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were to those specifically enumerated; and that, as it was never meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action; consequently, that the specification of powers is a limitation of the purposes for which they may raise money."
So says one of the writers of the Constitution and the man claimed as a founder of the modern Democratic party.
The government was to provide for the general welfare only in a manner consistent with the enumerated powers delegated to it by the citizens through the Constitution. In other words, the general welfare clause is not a blank check.
"what do you know, you wake up one day and realize it's too late."
Therefore you are responsible for my nutrition and/or health care needs?
Non-sequitur.
There is NO valid moral case to be made that you are responsible for me, whether I made good choices or bad, whether I had good luck or bad. I am not your child.
Even granting your flawed argument, for the sake of discussion, why must such programs be Federal ones?
There is little doubt that a safety net is a wise course of action, but your comment implicitly says that the government is responsible for that safety net. It is this mode of thinking that I must fight. Government "responsibility" for the minute details of my welfare and individual liberty are mutually exclusive. I have a right to choose for myself what my welfare is and how I will provide for it, and I will fight tooth and nail to preserve that right.