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Lindsey Graham on 2012
The senator weighs in on Rick Perry, the vice-presidential slot, and more.

By Robert Costa


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Lindsey Graham, South Carolina’s senior senator, is not a conservative kingmaker like his Palmetto State colleague, Sen. Jim DeMint. But the maverick lawmaker is a Beltway player on national security, a vocal member of the Armed Services committee. As the GOP presidential primary heats up, with candidates dropping by Charleston and Columbia, he hopes to use his perch to prod the field.

In a recent interview with National Review Online in his Capitol Hill office, Graham was frank in evaluating the race so far. Turning first to the frontrunners, he says Gov. Rick Perry is a strong Republican presidential contender, but needs to “prove that he is electable.” Many Republicans, he notes, have lingering questions about Perry’s statements on Social Security, vaccination policies, and foreign policy.

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“No one is going to win the White House without having a commitment to Social Security,” Graham says. “[Perry] is right about it going broke, and I think his [USA Today] op-ed piece was good, but we need to reinforce the message that we see the value of Social Security.”

Graham says Perry’s policy to require young girls to receive HPV inoculations unless their parents opted out, in order to prevent cervical cancer, could also spell trouble for the Texan. “From Governor Perry’s point of view, he was trying to protect girls from cancer. Whether you agree with his decision or not, I have no doubt about his motivation,” he says. “But I don’t think the mandatory route is the one to go. . . . Making someone do that, I don’t like.”

Graham, a colonel in the Air Force reserves, expects Perry, an Air Force veteran who “speaks our language,” to generate enthusiasm in South Carolina. Still, in coming weeks, he would like to hear more from Perry, and all of the candidates, about the importance of Afghanistan. Perry’s remarks in a recent debate, where he said the U.S. should bring its troops home “soon,” startled Graham. “I’m a bit disappointed in our candidates,” he says.

Moving forward, Graham thinks an increased emphasis on foreign policy could help candidates in South Carolina, even if they are lagging in the polls. He hints that former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum, who has received little press attention, could generate some momentum by vigorously addressing the terrorism threat, at home and abroad. “On the national-security side, I think he’s got a very good, strong voice,” Graham says. “He’s doing the best job, by far, of talking about the America that leads, the America that is exceptional.”

“I’m not going to let the party become the party of isolationism,” Graham says. He points to Jon Huntsman, the former Utah governor who is actively campaigning in South Carolina, as an example of the position he finds unpalatable. “I don’t know what he’s up to,” Graham says, commenting on Huntsman’s call for a speedy drawdown.

“[Huntsman] is a good guy, a very accomplished man, a terrific résumé,” he continues. “My problem is on the national-security front.” Graham acknowledges that some Republicans are “war weary,” but cautions Hunstman that conservative primary voters “do not want to give the Taliban the ability to regenerate. Most South Carolinians understand that we are fighting the bastards over there so that we don’t have to fight them over here — and we’re winning.”

Of course, all of this nitpicking by a South Carolina senator, Graham chuckles, will be for naught if Republicans do not compete for the S.C. crown. He is worried that the primary, which for years has been a crucial stepping stone to the nomination, may be overlooked by Perry’s fellow frontrunner, Mitt Romney, who has not invested heavily in the state. “You’re making a huge mistake if you don’t play in our state,” Graham warns. “Governor Romney could do well in South Carolina. . . . But he has to get an organization.”

“The South Carolina electorate is conservative, but electability matters,” Graham says. “We have an unblemished record of picking the nominees since 1980. New Hampshire and Iowa are hit and miss. South Carolina has got it right every time. I want to continue that tradition.”

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   09/16/11 15:04

If South Carolina wants to show me how smart they are, first get rid of this clown and elect another DeMint.

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   09/17/11 10:52

....the TEA party has a "toga" party planned for him in '14....it will be a thing of beauty......

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   09/17/11 19:21

Oh you are so so right, kaigun. I can't wait till the next chance we get to dump this guy. I give as much credibility or interest to Graham's musings on the ideal Republican nominee as I would to Nancy Pelosi's.

RE: "Lindsey Graham, South Carolina’s senior senator, is not a conservative kingmaker like his Palmetto State colleague, Sen. Jim DeMint."

Heh -- there's a reason for that -- he's not a conservative!

RE: "But the maverick lawmaker . . . "

LOVE the little propaganda word "maverick" -- that's really just the last option a writer uses when he has no idea what word to use that could be remotely "positive" about a guy who has covered himself with shame in the Republican party.

RE: " . . . he hopes to use his perch to prod the field."

Here's hoping all the nominees understand how irrelevant Graham is to their campaigns -- and of what little consequence his "proddings" are on the field.

RE: "Many Republicans, he notes, have lingering questions about Perry’s statements on Social Security . . . "

Yeh -- the non-conservatives do, that's true. But everybody I've talked to is cheering the "ponzi scheme" label on in spades!

Again -- I simply can't wait until his next campaign.

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   09/16/11 15:19

What a joke. I am as interested in finding out what goober Graham thinks as seeing paint dry.

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Dave in Calif.
   09/16/11 15:24

Of course, Lindsey Grahamnesty conveniently doesn't mention the #1 issue that Republicans have with Rick Perry: his glaring weakness on illegal immigration and support of the misnamed "Dream Act."

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Dave in Calif.
   09/16/11 15:26

As far as Graham is concerned, "maverick" = RINO.

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Jeff in AZ
   09/16/11 15:44
   09/16/11 16:19

It's either Graham or Lohan. I get them confused.

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   09/18/11 17:12

One of them is in the press a lot and often shows poor judgment. The other one is a singer or film starlet, I think.

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   09/16/11 16:50

Many of us in SC desperately want to replace Lindsay. He was a good Congressman but when he got to the Senate and fell under the spell of McCain, well, he ain't been worth much since. Perhaps newly elected Congressman Tim Scott will challenge LG the next go 'round.

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RAY cOMFORT
   09/16/11 17:17

Gee, they've said it all! I know we have a another DeMint somewhere!

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   09/19/11 09:19
   09/16/11 17:37

Grahm IS McCain without the war record - I keep voting against him in the primaries and for the Democrat in the elections to get rid of him - alas, no luck so far.

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Jacki
   09/16/11 18:36

Replace & Remove this Rino. Santioned by the State he represents, it's time they put their votes were their mouth is.

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   09/16/11 19:58

Seriously, Mr. Costa, nobody give a flying fig about this RINO. He's a buffoon.

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hmastercylinder
   09/16/11 22:05

He's an expert on the military, because he's a lawyer with a uniform for cover. He has every despicable lawyer trait in spades, including, but not limited to duplicity, and every bad thing attached to a lifetime civil servant. He sees Perry as something he must prevaricate on, because his finger is so to the wind, he risks having it torn off in a strong gust.
He and McCain are buds, because they were both *BAD* military men who mined their service for all it was worth. I do not think either one has any single virtue to recommend them to conservatives. They are the worst kind of scummy, self-serving RINOs, preying upon our credulous simplicity regarding the military. The fact that he shares a state with an absolute paragon of conservative virtue, Sen. DeMint merely shows that God truly has a Department of Irony. Well, Jim Buckley shared a state with Javitts, a communist if there ever was one. But, at least we all knew he was a communist.
Be on notice: when I see a Bush endorsement, I cringe, and Lindsay Frikkin' Graham affects me the same way. Better a sincere lib like Lieberman, than a stinkin' RINO. I hates traitors.
(By the way, WFB is steaming mad that you idiots have this stupid screening program which doesn't let words you all use every single day, in print, and overly complicate everything about this site. Thank you for indicating to me how truly stupid and dysfunctional Ivy Leaguers actually are. If you don't want comments, don't have a comments section. If you do, why are you so afraid of what they might say?)

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YooperBob
   09/16/11 23:17

Let's say Perry gets the nomination. The maverick Goober Graham, and possibly his buddy maverick McCain, will be all over the Sunday morning talk shows expressing "reservations" about the qualifications of Perry but allowing that in the end he will support him. In the meantime, the Democrats will fawn over their nominee Obama as if he were Winston Churchill or Moses. As a result the Dems will look strong, united, and determined while Graham and company look unsure and insincere. That will get Graham what he wants. A lot of face time on TV.

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   09/17/11 03:02

Who cares what this bozo says! My apologizes to any real bozos that might have been offended by the comparison.

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   09/17/11 06:05

The captcha has it just right, Graham is a "ding-dong." Who needs the analysis of this McCain mini-me, as both are RINOs of the worst sort. Here's hoping SC can rid itself of this clown.

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   09/17/11 08:50

I have become willing to give them their point that what one does in a state is not necessarily how one would act as president. As posting voters, we don't seem to have any rules about such things and often appear reactionary. If Perry's qualification is tainted by his immigration stance, shouldn't Romney's be at least that tainted by Romneycare? And what does that mean? We can't vote for either because they are not pure enough for us?

I was for building a big fence first. Now I'm willing to listen to other ideas. The flow has slowed significantly, and I don't think that Perry is for another 12 million coming across the border illegally.

I have a harder time excusing Romneycare, but I have begun to see more clearly that the trajectory of the executive is determined by the make up of the legislature; something that is lost in our focus on the executive in 2012 is a discussion of what can happen if the legislative trends continue - Romney would likely be more conservative with a Senate majority and tens more Tea Party (or Tea Party lite) congressmen. Perry would not likely veto a rightward immigration bill that came from slightly rightward of him.

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