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Let’s Have a Real Foreign-Policy Debate
Only a few of the candidates can handle a real discussion.

By Elise Jordan


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Saturday’s Republican foreign-policy debate yielded only one revelation, neither comforting nor productive: When it comes to international affairs, most of the contenders offer plenty of political theater and little substance.

First there are the “know nothing” candidates, who struggle to produce a one-minute debate answer. They fear straying from conventional Republican foreign-policy talking points because they know nothing about foreign policy and merely aspire to keep afloat in the debate.

Rick Perry and Herman Cain duked it out to see who is captain of the Know Nothing team. Who was more unimpressive? It was a close call. Perry couldn’t spit out a modicum of thought to suggest he had any idea about the state of play in Afghanistan. We’re “makin’ progress,” he says, but he couldn’t nail down what ground dynamics informed his opinion.

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Cain delivered vague and rambling answers at a frustratingly slow pace, and the rare substance he included was troubling. For Cain, forget the idea of challenging military orthodoxy — the kind of leadership, I might add, that Pres. George W. Bush executed in the dark days of the Iraq War. It’s “up to the commander in chief” to make decisions, Cain says, but not when it comes to torture. “I will trust the judgment of our military leaders to determine what is torture and what is not torture,” Cain says. Our military leaders have actually made that judgment: Waterboarding is torture, they believe, and they require soldiers to follow the Army Field Manual prohibiting it. (Cain probably meant to say “intelligence community.”) Why is Cain running for president if he wants to delegate when it comes to tough decisions?

Then there’s the camp of selective interpretation — candidates like Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, and Newt Gingrich, who are more experienced and better informed and yet misinterpret or distort key facts to fit their convictions neatly. Their views are akin to Impressionist paintings — they look great from a distance but messy on closer inspection.

Santorum and Bachmann see progress in Afghanistan. Despite a steady increase in violence since the American surge, Santorum calls the Taliban a “neutered force.” In Bachmann’s world, Kandahar has improved — I guess the onslaught of targeted assassinations of our allies is a positive sign after all.

Newt wrote a revisionist history of relations with Egypt, claiming Obama abandoned Mubarak “overnight.” Actually, the problem was the reverse: Obama and Secretary Clinton tried to hang on to Mubarak until they were behind the curve, not realizing that he was done. Newt hammered in on foreign-aid disbursements, saying he wants to start over with a blank slate. In fact, the sweeping review he proposes of the just over 1 percent percent of our budget dedicated to foreign aid would be far better applied to waste in the $700-billion-a-year defense budget; the Pentagon spent $20 billion just on air conditioning last year in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Know Nothings and the Selective Interpreters waste our time by making us more ill-informed, which is why I’d like to see a foreign-policy debate among Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, and Jon Huntsman. Ron Paul would force a debate on our principles, and Huntsman would inject a dose of reality.

And Romney? He needs to be sufficiently challenged to force him out of sticking to sound bites. Romney has mastered all the issues an aspiring president needs to address, showcasing his foreign-policy studiousness without any stumble or particular triumph. Romney’s best moment wasn’t even on policy; it was his moment of authority contesting moderator Scott Pelley, who tried to short him 30 seconds on an answer.

Ron Paul contrasts most radically with Romney as the conviction candidate. His opposition to torture on moral and practical grounds — it’s “uncivilized” and lacks “practical advantages” — would make it more likely that Romney would have to weigh in on what underpins his beliefs instead of getting away with saying the convenient thing.

However, since the chances of the government adopting Ron Paul’s foreign policy are slim to none, the discussion is almost theoretical.

In one of the debate’s more substantive flashes, Huntsman showed that he’s the only candidate who can challenge Romney on the issues. When Romney cried currency war with China, Huntsman pointed out his fallacy (it’s not in the WTO’s mandate to take on currency manipulation). Huntsman was also the only candidate in the debate who had noticed a game-changing factor: “We should be reaching out to our allies and constituencies within China,” he said. “They’re called the young people. They’re called the Internet generation.” These 500 million Internet users and 80 million bloggers, he continued, “are bringing about change.”

Unfortunately, discussion of a “21st-century foreign policy” wasn’t what took place on Saturday night. Unless Republicans elevate our own debate and talk with some seriousness about the reality of the world we live in and the beliefs that matter when it comes to our approach to foreign policy, Obama is likely to get another four years to continue splitting the difference on America’s role in the world.

— Elise Jordan is a New York–based writer and commentator. She served as a director for communications in the National Security Council in 2008–09 and was a speechwriter for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. 

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Coach Sal
   11/15/11 06:14

I keep checking the masthead--this is still NRO, right? At least an honest judge couldn't accuse us of lacking diversity of opinion. Somehow I manage to lose interest when I'm told that the grownups on the GOP stage are Ron Paul and Huntsman. This column demonstrates the same level of seriousness about matters political as it attributes to Cain & Perry on foreign policy.

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Marco2
   11/15/11 06:46

Thank you, thank you, thank you for finally stating the obvious, that Cain and Perry collectively couldn't find Moscow on a map! And they know little more of domestic than they do of foreign policy. When will the tea party talk show cabal call off the charade of putting these two forward as qualified, competent possible nominees? Gingrich, Bachmann and Santorum are clearly more knowledgeable, although Newt's Saturday night pandering to the know nothing voter was sadly disturbing.

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   11/15/11 07:15

"However, since the chances of the government adopting Ron Paul’s foreign policy are slim to none, the discussion is almost theoretical."

If the economy collapses we won't have any choice but to adopt Ron Paul's foreign policy. So before that happens we need to start moving towards Ron Paul's position. Fighting endless war in the Middle East is bankrupting the country.

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Tom_S
   11/15/11 11:25

As a percentage of GDP our military expenditures are pretty much in track with where they have been since WWII. What is bankrupting the country is the massive increases in HHS expenditures and policies that impede businesses from producing and thus decrease revenues.

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Perplexed
   11/15/11 12:29

You need to tell this to the Chinese. Obviously they are arming to either fight or intimidate us to get out of the Pacific. Either way we lose if we do not have a military that can cause them to fear taking such an adventurous action. They don't need military parity just a strategy or technological edge. If your not prepared to fight then I suggest you get used to a significant reduction in standard of living. It really boils down to either eating or fighting. You choose.

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Perplexed
   11/15/11 07:49

Oh, golly gee! Another member of the MSM that want Hunstman to get the nomination. I thought that his continually low rankings would make that support painstakingly obvious. Please do us a favor. We are NOT going to nominate Huntsman for the nomination so spare us your continued subservience to his candidacy.

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   11/15/11 08:08

"Some *journalists* waste our time."

Fixed that for you.

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   11/15/11 08:31

So Cain and Perry are ignorant, Newt, Bachmann and Santorum are unimaginative and Ron Paul is a kook.

Who does that leave? Ah yes, Mitt Romney and John Huntsman. The two most conservative guys in the field, right???

I ask myself this question: who would the New York Times endorse as the nominee? I’m guessing Huntsman or Romney.

I am beginning to agree with the camp that complains about NRO being the establishment.

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   11/15/11 09:19

I agree. NRO is relentlessly pushing the most moderate candidates. The shameless shilling is frustrating - to say the least.

However, Sowell puts in an argument today for NOT Romney. Its good to see Dr. Sowell maintaining a bit of integrity.

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   11/15/11 08:39

"Santorum calls the Taliban a 'neutered force.'"

You should review the debate transcript. Santorum did not, in fact, call the Taliban a neutered force. He was asked a question about what victory would look like in Afghanistan, and responded with a hypothetical statement: that victory would include seeing the Taliban as a "neutered force." He did not state this as a fact about the current state of affairs in that country.

It does all of us a disservice when political analysis is predicated on factual errors.

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Jordan Wood
   11/15/11 09:20

I question the $20 billion annual cost cited for air conditioning. And air conditioning (in Iraq, anyway) is a valid operational cost, at least from May to October.

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   11/15/11 12:18

The $20 billion/year comment came from "All Things Considered" on NPR. It is based on quotes from a retired Brigadier General in the Army who is now selling energy efficient technology to the Pentagon. Surprise, Surprise. According to the U.S. Military, we spent $15 billion on ALL forms of energy last year, and about 3 billion in six months in Afghanistan (most of that in jet fuel). I expect better from the National Review. Shame on you guys.

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   11/15/11 09:22

Its not the war in the ME that is bankrupting the country. Its the endless list of entitlements. Perhaps the war is needlessly prolonged and even contributing to the financial mess, but let's not become unfocused as to the major cause of our financial troubles.

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irishforever
   11/15/11 10:08

So Elise Jordan is an expert on what qualifies as "real", "21st-century" foreign policy? I fail to see how one year as a--she wasn't even THE-- director for communications to the NSC and penning some lines in a speech for SoS Rice give her authority to speak on such matters.

This piece is nothing more than another closet endorsement of Romney by NR.

"Romney has mastered all the issues an aspiring president needs to address, showcasing his foreign-policy studiousness without any stumble or particular triumph. Romney’s best moment wasn’t even on policy; it was his moment of authority contesting moderator Scott Pelley, who tried to short him 30 seconds on an answer."

Please wipe the drool off of your chin, Elise. It's embarrassing.

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   11/15/11 10:26

Did that last line go through at least one edit?

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irishforever
   11/15/11 10:35

What are you implying?

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   11/15/11 10:18

I agree with Ms Jordan that the GOP candidates are a disappointment when it comes to a principled, strategic vision on foreign affairs and a coherent, principled critique of the current administration.

I also agree with Christie's assessment that the GOP seems to underestimate how formidable a foe Obama will be. I may feel that anyone on the stage would be better than Obama, but I don't think a majority of voters agree with me.

So I hope that Newt will go to school and bring up his game on foreign affairs.

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Lenny from Chicago
   11/15/11 10:29

I wonder how Elise Jordan would evaluate Ronald Reagan in 1979-1980 ?

Surely, Jimmy Carter had foreign policies gravitas.

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Bob Sarbane
   11/15/11 10:38

Sometimes I wonder what is going on at NationalReview.com Does Ms Jordan have any foreign policy credentials other than being a p.r. flack? Isn't there some sort of seriousness filter at NR? This column is an embarrassment.

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m baechle
   11/15/11 10:52

ole meanie| 11.15.11 @ 10:34AM
I don't see how anyone can dispute that Gingrich is the most experienced in national-level politics, or that he has the most formidable mind, among all the candidates. Is he likeable, warm, caring, "compassionate"? Maybe not, or on the other hand maybe he just can't or won't try to fake it.

What some of the conservative True Believers ought to bear in mind is that statistically they are in a very small minority in this country. Any candidate who can satisfy their test of ideological purity is going to turn off the majority of the voting public, and hand Obama another four years.

A candidate like Ron Paul isn't going to be nominated, and if he were, the general election will be a replay of Goldwater vs. LBJ in 1964. Perry is too much of a cowboy for general taste. Bachmann is a lightweight, and couldn't oppose Obama successfully. Romney--who utterly lacks conservative principles and is anathema to the Tea Party types-- is slippery and unattractive. Huntsman may be smart, but he is not going to attract much attention or many votes.

Cain's weaknesses are too apparent, and his strengths are conjectural. It is argued, in essence, that despite his obvious lack of knowlege, he did run a pizza chain, his heart is in the right place, and that he is a nice fellow.

If being able to run a corporation successfully, and being rich and African American are qualifications enough, and if likeabilty and "compassion" are the key elements of what we want in a leader, let's nominate Oprah Winfrey by acclamation and be done with it.

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