A couple words about last night’s Republican presidential debate in Florida? I’ll wade in . . .
CNN plays this pounding rock music as the candidates enter. I wonder what Ron Paul, the septuagenarian, in particular thinks about it.
Mitt, standing on the stage, applauds Newt as he enters. Would Newt do the same for him?
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Newt’s partisans moo “Newt! Newt!” Reminds me of “Booooooog.” (That’s what they said for Boog Powell, the Baltimore Oriole slugger. Sounded like booing, needless to say.)
A college chamber choir sings the national anthem — in C, which is very unusual. (The anthem is usually sung in B flat.) Mitt and Rick Santorum sing along. Paul and Newt do not.
Rick introduces his mother, announcing that she’s 93. I think it’s disgusting to publicize your mother’s age. But most Americans eat it up, I think. It’s very modern. Part of the Oprahfied America.
I hope there are still mothers who, if their sons stated their age in public, would slap them.
Every politician should speak English as fluidly as Newt does. Would help them a lot.
Speaking of English: Newt always says that it should be “the official language of government.” An interesting formulation, and concept. I wonder how many Americans would agree — probably a vast majority (not that vast majorities are necessarily right, of course).
Newt has called Mitt anti-immigrant — and Mitt kills him on it, absolutely kills him. Rhetorical smackdowns are not supposed to be a Romney specialty, but the Mittster clearly knows how to execute one.
Tonight, audience applause is working for Romney, not Gingrich. Tonight, it’s Newt, not Mitt, who has to wait for someone else’s applause to subside, before speaking.
Newt has accused Mitt of wanting to go around nabbing and deporting grandmothers. Mitt says, “You know, our problem is not 11 million grandmothers.”
One of the lines of the campaign.
Whereas Newt calls for English to be “the official language of government,” Romney calls for it to be “the official language of the United States.” Not sure what that means.
One of the things Ron Paul doesn’t understand is that there is no “trading with Cuba.” Many people don’t understand that. There is trading with the dictatorship, only. You cannot deal with any individual Cubans. You provide the dictatorship with dollars or euros, and the dictatorship in turn dispenses to individual Cubans a few worthless pesos.
And the dictatorship needs the dollars and euros, of course, as oxygen. This money is what keeps them going, following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
When Ron Paul says that we are imposing our views on other countries, what he means is that we’re supporting democracy — i.e., the right of people to decide their government and their future for themselves. The only imposition is done by the tyrants.
When Paul says that we are dictating to other countries, what he means is that we favor the right of people not to be dictated to.
When Paul says that we are bullying other countries, what he means is that we’re standing up for the right of people not to be bullied — by the likes of the Castro brothers, Chávez, and so on.
When Paul talks the way he does, I wish it were he, not men and women such as Oscar Biscet and Marta Beatriz Roque, who had to live under Communist dictatorship.
Paul hopes for what he calls “friendship with Cuba.” What he means, of course, is friendship with the dictatorship. Because Americans have long been the best friends Cubans have (with the Czechs in second place behind us, probably).
This is one of Lincoln Diaz-Balart’s pet peeves about Obama: Our current president, perhaps unique among American presidents, says “Cuba” when he means the Castro dictatorship. Cuba is not the dictatorship: Cuba is Biscet, and Roque, and everybody.
What Santorum says about Obama and Honduras — dead right, absolutely right.
Mitt didn’t know about an ad that he has run against Newt? He isn’t prepared to defend that ad? A terrible blunder, a fundamental mistake — barely excusable, I think.
Listening to the back-and-forth about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, I think of something that Sarah Palin said in the 2008 vice-presidential debate: Yes, government was at fault in the housing crisis and collapse. But don’t individual Americans bear responsibility too? Didn’t our moms and dads teach us to live within our means?
A comment like that is one of the things that make Palin an extraordinary politician (not that many give her credit for it).
I believe that, if Mitt is the nominee, Republicans will rally around him big-time — and the angst of the primaries will be largely forgotten.
People say, “What if Ron Paul goes third-party, or independent? Won’t that hurt the Republicans terribly?” I give you a related question: What if Newt fails to get the nomination and is so offended, so affronted, so aggrieved, that he goes third-party or independent?
Yikes.
Newt springs an attack on Mitt: He, Mitt, has profited from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I think, “How’s Mitt gonna answer this?” And he answers it smashingly: by smashing Newt’s own dealings with Fannie and Freddie — not just as a consultant, but as an investor.
Holy-moly.
When Mitt’s talking about blind trusts, stocks, bonds, and the like, I’m thinking, “You know, the man knows money — and it’s risky for another candidate to tangle with him on the subject.”
Newt says that to “compare my investments with [Romney’s] is like comparing a tiny mouse with a giant elephant.” You know what I love? That Mitt laughingly agrees with this.
The last time I heard about blind trusts was when the first Bush was running. His critics said that he had “put his manhood in a blind trust.”
The idea of Bush as not an hombre was always stupid. I mean, I think the guy lied about his age to get into the war so he could fight the Japanese.
Rick told his mother's age on TV? Bad show, old man. Our mothers have now reached the stage where they lie about their children's ages. It's one thing to hail your parents as "part of the gretaest generation" or as "formed by the Great Depression", since the Great unwashed public has only the simpliest concepts of history and mathematics, but to actually come out and put a number on it? Bad show.
It's not like she just hit some dreaded "over the hill" milestone. If someone on stage introduces their WIFE as having just turned 60, well, then, I'd see the point.
But, come on... I'd be bragging my butt off if I were in my 90s. I'd be so happy my son called me out like that, I'd be a little ashamed of myself.
Agreed. What the heck? When my grandma turned 90 it was a massive family/community celebration (wait till she turns 100!)
And anybody who thinks this is bad must be more conservative than JRR Tolkien, who wanted to go back to pre-1066 England, but yet started his book with an "eleventy-first" birthday party.
Stop the whining about age. I have plenty of friends and relatives who, once they pass through their 50's and 60's, wear their advancing age as a badge of honor. Good for her for reaching 93, and good for Rick for giving his mom a nice mention.
Jay, I look forward to your columns, but once again, you let slip in more Manhattan-style attitudes that come across as looking down your nose at those of us not smart enough to live in too-close-proximity to millionso f others.
Rick's debate performances continue to get better, and he won the night. Newt and Mitt bickered like babies. Unintentionally they keep making Ron Paul seem more reasonable. All of them should have been vigorously calling Paul out on his dangerous views.
Finally, I guess it is too much to ask for to think that we can move forward from the hyphenated-American asking the demographically pointed question in debates. We're AMERICANS people. Your lives, and the country's future, will dramatically improve when we unite to advance the goals in our Declaration of Independence.
If they can look that Palestinian-American in the eye and tell him, basically, to go pound sand (I'd have liked to hear Rick get the chance to answer that question), why can't they tell someone who is Latina:
"I'm not sure I'm gonna have a "latino" member of my administration. I may well have someone who is of Latina descent, and I might not even know it. I don't plan to ask the person, 'So, are you white, Latina, or what?' I won't be doing any racial bean-counting."
"Given the number of highly qualified people in this country, of all backgrounds, the odds are pretty good at least one might end up sharing your ethnicity. Okay? My quota is zero, though, if that's what you were driving at!"
I think Jay's proposed Romney response regarding Hispanic leaders is less than ideally formulated. If Romney said, as Jay proposed, "I won't judge by race or ethnicity," it sounds like a preemptive excuse for an all old-white-guys cabinet. I don't think it's a gotcha question from the questioner. As such, I don't think it requires a gotcha answer.
Romney, or any other candidate, need only say something like, "You know, I love Marco Rubio. I think he's fantastic. But I don't think he's fantastic because he's Cuban-American. I think he's fantastic because he's a real, unabashed conservative, and he's got a lot of great years of conservative leadership ahead of him. I'm delighted he's Cuban-American, too, but I'd hire him even if he was a boring old white guy like me."
I wish these candidates would just occasionally show a little bit of thoughtful and human spontaneity. If Newt can win SC because of a moment of righteous indignation, I think a statement like what I've proposed could go a long way.
I don't think it SHOULD go a long way, but I think it would...
It is interesting how many conservatives clamor for substance and ideas and decry sound bite answers. Yet many of the observations above (and from previous Impromptus) seem to focus on the snappy one-liners. I’m not saying this as a criticism, just as an observation. It seems to be the way we are wired, or at least the way we operate in our media-overloaded world today.
I think this is another stumbling block for Newt. His six minute soliloquies are not easily summarized into nice little news-media-ready sound bites. And it is not uncommon for Newt to say something batty or crazy in one of his digressions from his third point in a five point answer that gets picked up and used against him. I guess this is what people mean by undisciplined.
I think you hit the nail on the head! We can thank twitter and facebook. Also, most people arent on a computer...takes a while to type.
As for the nomination, combine newts wit and delivery with santorums conviction and loyalty to true conservative beliefs, then you have a winner. Or just ron paul without the tinfoil hat foreign policy beliefs!
(1) Could Jay tell that they were singing in the key of C just by listening? How do you do that? I find that simply amazing.
(2) I've long noticed that Newt seems to be the only one of the bunch who can string three sentences together without stammering. Sigh.
(3) Maybe stating one's mother's age in public is acceptable when one's mother reaches (achieves?) an advanced, somewhat awe-inspiring age, like 93 for instance. Then it seems like more of an honor.
This is a crowded bandwagon. Someone makes it to 93, still somewhat self-reliant and with senses intact we should celebrate that. I wish that for all our elders.
Years ago a very close friend of the family, something of an honorary grandmother to me, had her 92nd birthday. I happened to see her right about that time and asked how she was doing, to which she replied, "I'm 92!" No age-based shyness on her end.
If you've got 92 years, flaunt them!
On the other hand, I can see Jay's point - I'm sure my mom wouldn't want me telling everybody that she's... er... her age.
No, no, no. There are some serious problems with this field, but the four guys left are able to string sentences together. The ones who couldn't were W, Perry, and some others...
Regarding the ""greatest generation", aren't they the people who raised the boomers and 60's hippies that many would describe as, on the average, selfish and the force behind progressivism?
I think Rick won that debate, RomneyCare shouts included.
Rick is a bit peeved these days. So are many of us. And, as are the 20+ million people out of work.
I mean, we have a president who takes great pride in reducing the unemployment rate by reducing the number of people actively participating in the labor force, as if that is some sort of improvement.
And I think it makes sense for a candidate seeking to explain the problems we have to be a bit frustrated, visibly and audibly.
I think it's time for conservatives to rally around Rick. If he came in second in FL, he'd be able to go the distance in this race, with an influx of money.
He's the natural choice for conservatives, never mind the "experts" who say he cannot win. Newt was supposed to be dead in the water months ago. The experts are usually wrong.
As much as Newt grimaces at the comments of others, I also observe him to nod in approval just as often. Very endearing. Her is actually the most likely of the four to concede a point made by someone else, or to state his agreement with what someone else said.
The problem with Ron Paul's campaign for liberty is that I don't think he believes in liberty at all. He totally undermines his platform by dismissing as irrelevant the liberty of people around the world.
Tyranny is on the march everywhere, including, not least of all, in our own hemisphere. Not only does Ron Paul not care one iota if the entire world is enslaved in tyranny around us, but he fails to comprehend how that implicates our ability to enjoy our liberties here.
I find his ambivalence toward the freedom of others, and his naivete on how it impacts us, to be nauseating.
And, his reply to Rick Santorum on supporting democracies in South America was the most unintelligible answer of the campaign. As if supporting Honduras and Colombia requires troops.
He finds it offensive to support democracies around the world? I find that deeply offensive, and insulting.
First of all, when you say that Ron Paul does "not care one iota", you commit the liberal fallacy of wanting a President who - instead of looking to principle - says "I feel your pain", and not just with words, but with American tax dollars and the blood of our soldiers. How about a President who "feels me" a little less and serves me a little more!
Second, Ron Paul believes when we interfere, we risk doing more harm than good. For example, his position is that it was a mistake to overthrow the Iranian Communist-leaning government in 1953 and install the Shah. Does that mean he "does...not care one iota" if Iranians suffer under communism? NO. He hates Americans being in bondage to government even slightly, why would he not abhor Iranians suffering even more under serfdom? He takes the long view, though, that if we left them alone, Iranian Socialist policy wouldn't have any more luck than it has had anywhere else in the world, it would implode, and since that government relied on democratic legitimation, it might be more easily replaced than, say, the despotism of the Mullahs & Supreme Leader are today! It would also be harder - though, Paul does need to remember, still quite do-able - for the government to scapegoat with us if the perceived usurper wasn't installed by us.
Third - to my knowledge, Ron Paul has NEVER said we should side with Zelaya in Honduras, so the contrast that was supposedly some great coup for Santorum is a straw man argument. Here's how that logic works: Paul is (perceived as) "soft" on foreign policy. Obama is "soft" on foreign policy. Obama sided with Zelaya. Conservatives would side with the Honduran House of Representatives.
This is false because it conflates "non-intervention" with "Leftism". The Left-wing response is to back Zelaya - but that takes intervention! Obama pressured the Honduran government to take Zeleya back - which is intervening! Leftists intervene when it suits them - like committing our money & troops to Libya even though its not in our national interest! Dr. Paul would "mind our own business" and let Hondura's Congress keep the ballot-rigger out of their country!
Lastly - after all that - I actually DO think Rick Santorum won the debate. I won't vote for him, but I believe in the principle "credit where credit is due". He was definitely right on ObamaCare being "worth getting mad about". In that position, I disagree with Mitt and agree with Rush Limbaugh. Since when are fundamental freedoms that effect your ability to get basic care on your terms not worth passion? Yes, Santorum is a braggart and overplays the righteous indignation - but here, in this unConstitutional usurpation by Obama, I think it is absolutely warranted. In fact, I think America is too lackadaisical about ObamaCare!