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Some of My Fellow Righty Bloggers Need a Broader Definition of ‘Worst Figure’

I can’t believe conservative bloggers put a bunch of garden-variety Democratic politicians so high, when asked to compile a list of the Worst Figures in American History.

The list, compiled from the responses of 43 right-of-center bloggers by John Hawkins:

  • 23) Saul Alinsky
  • 23) Bill Clinton
  • 23) Hillary Clinton
  • 19) Michael Moore
  • 19) George Soros (8)
  • 19) Alger Hiss (8)
  • 19) Al Sharpton (8)
  • 13) Al Gore (9)
  • 13) Noam Chomsky (9)
  • 13) Richard Nixon (9)
  • 13) Jane Fonda (9)
  • 13) Harry Reid (9)
  • 13) Nancy Pelosi (9)
  • 11) John Wilkes Booth (10)
  • 11) Margaret Sanger (10)
  • 9) Aldrich Ames (11)
  • 9) Timothy McVeigh (11)
  • 7) Ted Kennedy (14)
  • 7) Lyndon Johnson (14)
  • 5) Benedict Arnold (17)
  • 5) Woodrow Wilson (17)
  • 4) The Rosenbergs (19)
  • 3) Franklin Delano Roosevelt (21)
  • 2) Barack Obama (23) 
  • 1) Jimmy Carter (25)

I’m no fan of most of the Democrats on the list, and there are some good picks. But most of the modern political figures look ridiculous when we compare their actions to some of America’s most really notorious figures.

No Al Capone? No Machine Gun Kelly or the Lindbergh baby kidnappers?

No Jefferson Davis or anyone else associated with the Confederacy beyond John Wilkes Booth? Speaking of presidential assassins, no Lee Harvey Oswald? (Oh, I know, I know, he was the fall guy for the big conspiracy.) Aaron Burr gets a pass for killing Alexander Hamilton in a duel?

Isn’t Johnny Walker Lindh or Robert Hanssen a more clear-cut case than Jane Fonda or either of the Clintons?

No Charles Manson? Come on. You’re really telling me Al Sharpton and Michael Moore outrank somebody like Jeffrey Dahmer, who ate people? Race-baiting and rabble-rousing outrank cannibalism?

No Jim Jones (cult leader, not national security adviser) or David Koresh?

Not one villain from America’s business world? No ruthless layoff king like “Chainsaw Al” Dunlap? No Ken Lay? Bernie Madoff couldn’t reach the top 20?

UPDATE: A couple readers argue that I’m being a bit unfair, that clearly many of these bloggers using the measuring stick of how far a figure’s bad deeds reached, instead of who committed the most evil acts in American history.

I actually think you can make strong cases for some of the political figures on this list. Anyone who’s read Liberal Fascism understands Wilson’s inclusion, and there’s a lot of supporting evidence to the argument that Jimmy Carter was the century’s worst, or most ineffective president. I think demonizing FDR is as foolish as lionizing him, and as time goes by, I feel less animus towards Bill Clinton, and his signing of welfare reform alone ought to keep him off this list.

But some of these names strike me as ludicrously small time for the scale of this list. Fahrenheit 9/11 and his other crap documentaries put Michael Moore in the top 20 worst figures in American history? I’m not even sure he’s among my 20 least favorite liberals at this moment. Al Sharpton? Soros?

A lot of the list comes across as “the top figures who bug conservative bloggers,” and I don’t think it’s healthy to mix the categories of “people who bug me” and “history’s greatest monsters.” Even if the Simpsons did put Jimmy Carter atop that list first.

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   08/13/10 11:42

No such list would be complete without Rachel Carson. If you count the deaths brought about by her devoted followers, she is easily the greatest murderess of all time, exceeded only by Marx in the 20th century.

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   08/13/10 11:49

This list is an obvious response to the ongoing war between the folks on the right and the folks on the left and it's a war that gets uglier every day. While not a crime, divisive politics have a more immediate impact on the American people than crimes we read about in our history books. Al Capone was a very bad guy, but his crimes happened a long time ago and don't seem that relevant to traditional Americans who are forced to fight off political and social zealots determined to transform our country into a place it was never intended to be and a place most of us have no desire to live. President Obama didn't commit a crime when he told American citizens he disagrees with to stop talking and get out of his way, but that doesn't make what he said any less threatening.

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   08/13/10 12:51

This list makes me sad... An empty-headed Hollywood dingbat inarticulately parrots VC propaganda and she gets 9 more votes than Nathan Bedford Forrest??

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   08/13/10 16:59

Jim, look at all the folks you listed like Manson, Capone, McVeigh, Dahmer, etc. and their death toll doesn't come close to what Sanger's responsible for. Heck, even throw in Jeff Davis and blame him for all the deaths in the Civil War, and they don't approach Sanger's millions.

But also, the damage done by folks like Dahmer is much more focused. Yes, we feel horrible for the families of their victims, but the damage done by people like Sharpton poison the entire society.

And Tregonsee is quite correct about Rachel Carson. Banning DDT alone costs about a million lives a year in Africa.

Thanks for posting this!

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   08/14/10 14:04

I can't believe that Michael Moore is not on this list as well.

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   08/14/10 16:24

Jim, you aren't much for clear linear thinking are you? Charles Manson is responsible for terrible atrocities, that's true, but when you stop and consider that he was, way back then, taking a leaf out of Saul Alinsky's playbook, with his race war theme, let's face it, the Alinskyites in power now, who are playing the same game on a larger scale, and from a real position of power can leverage the Alinskyite's damage on a far greater scale, I think it should put things in perspective. Jane Fonda, no, she's not much at surface value, but that's not the point. She was a famous, wealthy celebrity, she used that wealth and influence to target young people, especially college students. While visiting the Vietnamese communist army, she held them up as noble, and smeared our troops as war criminals. She actually broadcast to our troops in Vietnam to dispirit them, at a time when they were enduring hardship, and felt all alone. Jane Fonda said this in the early '70s, despite knowing what the communist Khmer Rouge had done to innocent Vietnamese citizens, “If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist. . . . I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism.”

Hillary & Bill Clinton deliberately sold our country out from under us, they provided secret information to the communist Chinese, and helped to profit the failed communist Chinese state, so it could become the global power that it is today. It was never about promoting capitalism, to turn them away from communism, but in stealing the wealth of the US to prop up communist China, to empower it.

Al Capone all those other villains, of course they were bad, they were monsters, but the damage they inflicted was small in comparison to the serious monsters on that list. As a former liberal democrat, I remember my growing awareness that the Michael Moore who I had thought was a good guy show that he was exploiting the issues of blue collar workers, to essentially sell them out. I remember watching a large group of his fans becoming radicalized through his propaganda on the forum on his web site during 1999. It was disgusting to see happen, he revealed that he was a phoney, that he didn't care about anything, short of power, ideology and profit.

The list is perfectly appropriate to me, and should be to anyone whose interest is returning us to our constitutional form of government.

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   08/14/10 16:41

Hey, Left Coast Rebel, thanks for the heads up on your blog about the documentary, Michael Moore Hates America, being available on Netflix via the Wii hookup, watching it now, with my daughter.

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   08/14/10 17:30

Mares - Be sure to read and follow the Left Coast Rebel as well. You are quite welcome on the tip as well. I was pleasantly surprised too when I found the movie.

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   08/14/10 20:47

I am sick of the right's Carter Derangement Syndrome. It is even worse than the left's over-the-top opinion of George W Bush. Even Geraghty's response to the poll continued to single out Carter for criticism.He may have been ineffective as president but the worst American in history. Are you serious?
He is a devout Christian (I thought that was important to the Right) and he has lived the principles of his faith since he left office. Check out the Carter Center website to see how he and the former First Lady have worked tirelessly to improve the lives of the least fortunate people in the world.
No other former president in my lifetime has continously demonstrated concern for others, and acted on it, as much as Carter has. Disagree with his politics but please get some perspective.

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   08/15/10 14:14

1972: every four years the Dems have a convention to nominate their presidential candidate. The nominees always pay tribute to past great Dem presidents: FDR, JFK, Truman -- and for bipartisan purposes, they'll also throw in a reference to Eisenhower, TR or Reagan. But they NEVER EVER say "I want to be a president like Jimmy Carter", even though Carter himself is usually sitting there in the VIP section at the convention.

There is a reason for this. While certainly not "one of history's greatest monsters", Jimmy Carter was a terrible president by any measure. He was a failure and a whiner, and no politician ever wants to be compared to him, even within his own party.

His post-presidential activities are nothing to crow about either. He mainly bashes Israel, and "observes" corrupt elections overseas so he can give his stamp of approval to dictators like Hugo Chavez. Thirty years later he still does more harm than good. When he makes the news these days, it's usually for a gaffe that makes his own side look bad. Once a loser, always a loser.

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   08/15/10 15:13

For people who love to rant about the lessons of history, this is a historically illiterate list. I wouldn't put Saul Alinsky on the list, but the fact that only one person mentioned him shows just how superficial these bloggers are. Here's my list, which I think is pretty bipartisan:

1. Earl Warren. Pushed to intern the Japanese, then passed himself off as a champion of civil rights.
2. William O. Douglas. Loopiest. Justice. Ever.
3. Antonin Scalia. Innocence is not a Constitutional bar to incarceration. Why hasn't this dimwit been impeached?
4. J. Edgar Hoover. Pure Evil. Preferred chasing imaginary Communists to real organized crime.
5. Joe McCarthy. Did more to advance Communism through sheer ineptitude than the whole Comintern.
6. George Patton. An inspiration to generations of mediocrities who equate spit shines with competence. If he'd gotten his war with the Russians, the "greatest generation" would have died in the Gulag.
7. Andrew Jackson. Just ask the Cherokee. Single most evil act ever by an American President.
8. Jimmy Hoffa. Did more to undermine the union movement than any other person. Made "union" synonymous with "organized crime."
9. William Westmoreland. Lost the Vietnam War and built a tissue of lies to conceal it.
10. Cotton Mather. Any similarity with his name and the venomous serpent the cottonmouth has to be divinely ordained.
11. Jonathan Edwards. He and Mather helped weave the thread of persistent nastiness in American Christianity, and started it on the path of degeneration into a pseudo-Christian cult.
12. Ben Butler. Political hack turned Civil War general and war criminal.
13. William Quantrill. Thug and murderer masquerading as guerrilla.
14. John Brown. America's very own Osama bin Ladin.
15. Nathan Bedford Forrest. When military skill crosses the line into cold blooded murderer. Went on to found one of the vilest terrorist organizations ever.
16-17. Jay Fisk and James Gould. Vanderbilt was a robber baron but he built railroads. Carnegie made steel. Rockefeller found oil. These guys, like Gordon Gekko, produced nothing. Spiritual forebears of Bernie Madoff and his ilk.
18. Allan Pinkerton. His intelligence estimates during the Civil War were so bad you really have to wonder who he was really working for. Went on to supply rent-a-goons for strikebreaking.
19. Henry Morris. A principal founder of the Scientific Creation cult, more or less guaranteeing that conservatism will never, ever, be taken seriously by intellectuals.
20. Roger Taney. Author of the Dred Scott decision, a ham-fisted attempt to settle the slavery issue by Supreme Court fiat. Pioneer of the imperial Supreme Court approach.
21. Abbie Hoffman. Architect of the Sixties cultural disaster.
22. Timothy Leary. Founder of the drug culture.
23. Eldridge Cleaver. His book Soul on Ice is an icon of the "criminal as political prisoner" mindset.
24. William Callahan. Judge during the infamous Scottsboro trials who set records for judicial misconduct seldom surpassed.
25. James Buchanan. Coward who hunkered down and waited out his term rather than trying to avert the Civil War.

Dishonorable Mentions

=Lillian Hellman and Paul Robeson. Isn't Stalin dreamy? Those purges and labor camps are just propaganda.
=Father Coughlin. Before there was pedophilia to disgrace the priesthood, there was this rabble rouser.
=John Nance Garner. If you think having Dan Quayle a heartbeat from the Presidency was scary, check out this character.
=Sonny Bono. Author of the bill extending copyrights to 95 years, one of the worst assaults on free speech in American history.
=L. Ron Hubbard and Jeremy Rifkin. Two of the most dangerous cranks in American history.
=William Kunstler. Defender of sociopaths.
=Robert Moses. Inventor of freeways as social barriers.
=Aimee Semple McPherson. Cult leader and radio personality. Falling from grace and shacking up with your radio technician for a week is merely sin. Accounting for your disappearance by claiming you were kidnapped by evolutionists and liquor interests gets you on this list.
=Boss Tweed. Redefined corruption.
=Huey Long. A jambalaya of craziness and corruption as only Louisiana can cook up.
=Anthony Comstock. Professional prude. Here, let me mind your own business for you.
=Hugh Hefner. The pictures are fairly harmless. It's the snotty attitude in Playboy's articles and commentaries that have done the real damage to the culture.
=William Randolph Hearst. Wars are good for circulation. His castle shore is purty, though.
=Edmund G. (Pat) Brown. California might have become a moonbat state even without him, but he certainly helped.
=Ralph Nader. If there's an expensive, inconvenient and useless "safety" feature on anything you own, thank Ralph.

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   08/15/10 22:51

Coupla things:

1) The discussion of Saul Alinsky is based on a deliberate mischaracterization (to be charitable) of his work and writings. It is ironic to me that Alinsky is so heavily excoriated on the right, as the Tea Party movement is a chapter-and-verse reading of "Rules For Radicals" made flesh.

Even more ironic is that the current Administration, while retaining some political objectives that are in fact liberal, is largely, within the overall historical landscape of American politics, centrist to center-right in its leanings. Just ask much of the Democratic base how happy they are with the Obama Administration's policies on a lot of things; the hard left views him as a corporatist tool.

Also, the factually-challenged slander of Rachel Carson needs rebuttal. The facts are:

1) Carson was generally right about DDT;
2) There are still numerous countries worldwide that use DDT to combat mosquitoes;
3) DDT's effectiveness is far less than it initially was because mosquitoes evolved resistance to the stuff. Many countries have had to stop using it not because Rachel Carson is evil, but because it doesn't work anymore.
4) Even if all the DDT disappeared tomorrow, there are numerous other methods and protocols to reduce malaria infection that work quite well - Mexico, came up with an alternate program that actually put DDT manufacturers out of business due to lack of demand.

The funny thing is Carson never called for a ban on DDT - just a reduction in its use, precisely because insects would develop resistance via indiscriminate use.

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   08/16/10 17:37

Criminals like Capone or Dahmer might be "worse" because they were evil: intending harm to their victims. But the harm they did to the nation was miniscule compared to the harm someone like Carter has done. Is Carter evil? No, because in his mind he thinks he is acting virtuously. He intends to do good. So does Obama. But they are so massively deluded, by ideology, personal narcissism and who knows what other demons, that they end up doing far more harm to incalulably more people than those actually evil criminals mentioned. Is Carter "the worst American?" I don't know. But I think Obama will easily surpass him.

Rachel Carson meant well too, no? She was just wrong. I would say the "eco" groups, NGOs and others in the international network that ply the ideology of the anti-capitalist, anti-human "eco" movement for their own gain, but who know or should know how unsubstantiated their dire claims are about such things as DDT, genetically engineered crops and catastrophic AGW are far more worthy of being placed on the list than Carson herself.

Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Angelo Mozillo, Franklin Raines and other architects of the current financial metldown, and prominent members of the Democrat/media complex deserve a higher ranking on the list, in terms of amount of harm done, than pikers like silly Jane Fonda.

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