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After Decrying Scare Tactics, Obama Embraces Scare Tactics

President Obama, Monday:

This is part of the problem with a political process where folks are rewarded for saying irresponsible things to win elections or obtain short-term political gain, when we actually are in a position to try to do something hard we haven’t always laid the groundwork for.  And I think that it’s going to take some work on his side, but, look, it’s also going to take some work on our side, in order to get this thing done.

President Obama, Tuesday:

President Obama on Tuesday said he cannot guarantee that retirees will receive their Social Security checks August 3 if Democrats and Republicans in Washington do not reach an agreement on reducing the deficit in the coming weeks. “I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it,” Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.

The actual facts, courtesy James Pethokoukis: “Social Security payments Treasury needs to make on Aug 3. $22 billion. Treasury cash balance on Aug. 3: $74 billion.”

Boy, Mr. President, like you, I think it’s awful when people say irresponsible things for short-term political gain.

Tags: Barack Obama

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   07/12/11 14:28
tlaloc
   07/12/11 15:03

"The actual facts, courtesy James Pethokoukis: “Social Security payments Treasury needs to make on Aug 3. $22 billion. Treasury cash balance on Aug. 3: $74 billion.”"

So we can afford to make three SS payments past the deadline and then are flat broke? Yeah that's rally no better. You're quibbling over when exactly we have to stop paying our obligations instead of focusing on the fact that we can't make them unless the debt ceiling is raised.

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   07/12/11 16:47

the Treasury has over 2 trillion in bonds it can sell and finally the Treasury can write as many checks as it wants ... they own the printing press ... yes, it is inflationary but not more so than QE1 and 2 was ...

get your facts straight, you'll look less ignorant ...

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 Eric
   07/13/11 04:51

The FED can use the printing press. Not the Treasury. Furthermore, the Fed cannot simply loan the newly-printed money to the Treasury, since that would be... more... debt.

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   07/13/11 00:09

It may surprise you to learn that revenue continues to flow in to the government every month. So that $74 billion will last beyond three payments. In fact, if we stop payments on PBS, NEA, and other cash wasters, it might go on a whole lot longer. Maybe even enough time for Obama to realize the American people really mean it: STOP TAXING, BORROWING, AND SPENDING US TO OBLIVION!

Then maybe we can get a fair deal.

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Van Sharpley
   07/12/11 15:14

This story has been out a couple of hours now, and no candidate has taken the opportunity to confront Obama - and call for his resignation.

Then ask Biden if he could guarantee checks. If not, ask Boehner. Eventually someone down the line will reassure the public that it has been lied to - and not to worry.

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   07/12/11 15:25

President Obama is finding out why business people respect someone who can meet a payroll. He wants to stop social security payments and military pay if there is no debt deal. OK, Mr. Obama, the bank is cutting off your line of credit and you must make choices to make your payroll (military pay), what are you going to do? It will be interesting to see the "Commander in Chief" stopping military pay so that he can make interest payments to the Red Chinese. Real life is hard, Mr. President.

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S. Reed
   07/12/11 15:27

Don't forget there is money coming in each month from tax collections. It is not a static situation, although the President is full of .... static.

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Vonnegut
   07/12/11 17:30

I honestly don't understand the objection here.

Obama was asked a question. He told the truth -- plain and simple. If there's no debt ceiling raise, the government will not have enough money to pay all of its obligations. SOME portion of the federal government's payments (Social Security, defense, payments on the debt) will have to be missed.

What would you rather have him do, Mr. Geraghty? Lie, so that the Republicans putting all of us in this hostage situation won't look so bad?

Seriously, what's he supposed to say when the question is posed and the answer is, yes, we won't have enough money to pay the bills on Aug. 3?

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   07/13/11 00:52

How about if he said, "Yes, I have overspent so much that we can't pay it all. But if we cut back on other things, so we can still make SS payments."

It would have been honest. Both parts.

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Vonnegut
   07/12/11 17:31

Oh, sorry, I get it. Mr. Geraghty thinks that there's a way out of this because Social Security doesn't comprise the entire federal budget.

Great analysis.

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Bill Olsen
   07/12/11 17:52

There's only one problem with all the people jumping all over Obama about this issue. Mitch McConnell said the same thing today:

"If we are unable to come together, we think it is extremely important the country reassure the markets that default is not an option and reassure Social Security recipients and military veterans that default is not an option."

Sounds to me like they agree that a default would impact Social Security recipients, wouldn't you say? Only nobody's loudly accusing McConnell of craven fear-mongering for saying it..

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   07/12/11 17:59

If he doesn't send out checks, threaten him with impeachment. Congress is in charge of checkbook, if he doesn't send out approved checks, then IMPEACH him for not doing his constitutional duty. Somebody needs to fire back and threaten him. If the PEOPLE see the Congress telling President Obama to do his job, they will back Congress on this one!

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 Eric
   07/13/11 04:48

You seem to be confused. Congress does indeed have the power of the purse. It used that power of the purse to order 44% more spent than we take in as taxes.

If the debt ceiling is not raised, there will literally not be money in the treasury to pay 44% of all bills. There is no law that states which 44% won't be paid, but no matter what, 44% of bills that Congress ORDERED paid will not be paid (due to absent borrowing authority).

So Obama will either not pay the 44% (which you claim is an impeachable offense), or he will ignore the debt ceiling to borrow the 44% and pay it (which I presume you claim is an impeachable offense). So no matter what Obama does, to you he is to be impeached.

This is why I said a few days ago on another thread that Obama is likely to be impeached at some point (so long as the people allow Republicans any power at all), so they may as well get it over with now. That way, the standard will be set (that ANY Democratic President will be impeached for any and all reasons, so long as the Republicans control Congress), and impeachment by a Republican-controlled Congress will become routine and cease to have any meaning. Works for me.

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PaulStocksdale
   07/12/11 21:41

I don't think it is fear-mongering at all. It is telling the truth. Some things will not be able to be paid on Aug. 3 if we have $74 billion, but have more than $74 billion worth of bills.

Am I to assume that military pay and war expenditures would be a very large chunk of that $74 billion.

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Brice2
   07/12/11 22:04

And when does this game end Mr. Vonnegut? Everybody knows that this 2 trillion is to just kick the can down the road to get past Obama's re-election where they plan on raising it again. What happens when you have a debt raising party and nobody shows up? By any sane measure, we are beyond the point where we can afford not to worry. To believe that more spending will jump start the economy at some point and suddenly raise massive amounts of new revenue has shown to be the utter failure it always is. Does this show more compassion on your part to have the country go bankrupt or utterly devalue it's currency? Will that make Social Security recipients feel better? I understand the last people in a Ponzi scheme aren't to happy, but delusional beliefs don't change the reality. While I might enjoy running up the credit cards and alI I can enjoy with them, it ain't really hostage taking when the card company says no more, no matter my supposed need. You collectivists just can't seem to handle the fact that there is a limit to your plunder no matter how much you demagogue and demonize.

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Hank The Cow Dog
   07/13/11 00:18

How about the 400 pound elephant in the room - GS retirees who actually put in 20 whole years before retirement. Are they going to miss a payment too?

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ecdski
   07/13/11 10:49

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and uncounted other Democrats have repeatedly said that Social Security has not contributed one cent to the debt, and that the Social Security Trust Fund has more than enough money to fund all payments through 2035. So why in the world is Obama talking about not being able to pay Social Security recipients? What does the debt ceiling have to do with a program that does not contribute one cent to the debt? Why doesn't he just pay them from the Trust Fund? Or could it be possible that everyone who has been ridiculed for saying that the Trust Fund is just a bunch of promises to pay that must be backed up by current and future taxes and borrowing be right? No way!

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