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Last Night’s Wisconsin Fights Were On Obama Turf

Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos analyzes the results in Wisconsin: “We took the fight into red territory.”

I guess that depends how you define, “red territory.” That description didn’t fit these districts in the most recent presidential election.

Rob Cowles’ District 2: Obama 52, McCain 46.

Alberta Darling’s District 8: Obama 51, McCain 47.

Sheila Harsdorf’s District 10: Obama 50, McCain 48.

Luther Olsen’s District 14: Obama 52, McCain 47.

And in the seats where incumbent Republicans Lost:

Sen. Randy Hopper’s District 18: Obama 51, McCain 47.

Sen. Dan Kapanke’s District 32: Obama 61, McCain 38.

Of course, they have incumbent Republicans, so in that sense, they were indeed “red territory.”

Next week, two Democrat incumbents will face recalls. Here’s how they stack up:

Jim Holperin’s District 12: Obama 53, McCain 46.

Robert Wirch’s District 22: Obama 57, McCain 41.

Note that Kos also writes, “Beyond Wisconsin, if we can enjoy a similar ‘loss rate’ in Republican-held districts (picking up 33 percent of them), Speaker Nancy Pelosi will have a huge majority in 2013.”

Mmm-hmm.

Tags: Barack Obama, Wisconsin

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   08/10/11 10:37

Markos Moulitsas (whose name can be, in Dave Barry's honor, rearranged to read "Moist Soul Karma") is a moron. If you could extrapolate local results nationally, then the results in California can be projected to here in Ohio, something we all know is not true. He can wish and hope all he wants, but he's still a moron.

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   08/10/11 10:39

“Beyond Wisconsin, if we can enjoy a similar ‘loss rate’ in Republican-held districts (picking up 33 percent of them), Speaker Nancy Pelosi will have a huge majority in 2013.”

Good luck with that, Marky.

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 RTP
   08/10/11 10:47

"Beyond Wisconsin, if we can enjoy a similar ‘loss rate’ in Republican-held districts (picking up 33 percent of them), Speaker Nancy Pelosi will have a huge majority in 2013."

As someone who hates publishing statistics because I know people read too much into them, this is cringe-worthy. Seriously, you can expect this from novices, but if you've watched the political scene for any legnth of time and make this type of leap - you're simply not that bright.

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   08/10/11 11:13

@RTP.

He might be smart enough. He's speaking to his audience though, who isn't.

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   08/10/11 11:13

I read a funny comment elsewhere:

"The democrats will be swearing in their two new senators at the Rockford Holiday Inn."

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   08/10/11 11:16

It must be nice to be so completely out of touch with reality that even a loss can be seen as good news.

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   08/10/11 11:38

The democrats are going to pick up 17 more seats than the GOP did in the 2012 midterms? With an incumbent president whose likely ceiling is 51% in an ideal scenario? Hysterical.

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   08/10/11 11:49

I almost choked when a liberal who frequents this website claimed NRO described the Hopper and Kapanke districts as "resoundingly conservative," his point being that it was a political triumph for Democrats to win in these two districts. He must have visited MoveOn.org before coming here to distribute the liberal spin of the GOP victory in Wisconsin: "We went into red territory and won two out of six, so it's not all bad." Of course, they can't (or won't) explain why the "too close to call" polls in the other four races were so wrong.

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   08/10/11 11:55

Democrats have poured everything they had into rolling back Republican gains and legislation in Wisconsin this year. First, with fugitive senators trying to block the vote; second with an all-out effort to politicize a State Supreme Court race and get a majority to overturn the law from there; and third with these recall races.

In addition, it is probably worth noting that Hopper, running in a district carried by Obama in 2008, not only lost by only a 51-49 margin (1250 votes,) he did so in the midst of a personal scandal that could easily have accounted for most, if not all, of his losing margin.

Democrats who see anything good in Wisconsin's recall results are just whistling past the (metaphorical) graveyard. Hope that imagery isn't too violent.

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   08/10/11 12:11

Democrats with $30 million to spend in a special election fell 5-10% points short of Obama's performance in their districts. (Just about the same result as the Prosser race.)

Looks to me like Wisconsin is trending Republican.

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   08/10/11 15:06

The Democrats cherry picked these races to find the most Democratic districts they could that were represented by Republicans. If they thought they could have won more races than these they would have tried to recall more GOP Senators. They could only find six seats they thought they had a decent shot at and they only won two of them despite overwhelming superiority in money and campaign workers (I don't say "campaign volunteers" because most of them were either paid or doing what they had to do to avoid losing their day jobs.)

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 JEM
   08/10/11 16:22

And as we know - one of the districts will probably flip back GOP in 2012, as unlike democratic voters, GOP voters at some point will hold their party representatives responsible for behavior suggesting a lack of character. This is a short term gain at the cost of at least $30M, and half of the victory will be lost in a year, plus the senate held. And with the anchor known as Obama, I think Wisconsin is safe for now.

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Robert A. Hall
   08/10/11 16:42

I will link to this from my Old Jarhead blog. Congratulations to Wisconsin voters, who by a thin margin may have temporarily avoided joining disaster states like California and Illinois. I say “temporarily” because the union-welfare-transnational progressive-lawyer coalition is strong in Wisconsin through years of vote-buying. As things get worse, economically ignorant voters may turn to plan-free promises like “hope and change.” And if the country collapses, as I fear is increasingly likely, the disaster states and the federal government will drag even the responsible states into the abyss.

Robert A. Hall
Author: The Coming Collapse of the American Republic
(All royalties go to a charity to help wounded veterans)

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   08/10/11 17:43

Markos put so much into these elections that he is now is in the first stage of the five-step grieving process: Denial.

Let us hope that he soon moves on to Stages 4 and 5: Depression and then Acceptance. Or, if he likes, he can stay in Stage 4. No need to, uh, Move On.

I am REALLY enjoying this particular victory. Only rarely should it be true I suppose, but every now and then, Schadenfreude can be your friend.

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