Over on RealClearPolitics, they have video of Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post bringing up the Santorums’ deceased child and labeling the family’s handling of the matter “very weird.”
“He’s not a little weird, he’s really weird,” Robinson said of Santorum. “And some of his positions that he has taken are just so weird that I think that some Republicans are off-put. Not everybody is not going to be down, for example, with the story of how he and his wife handled the stillborn child. It was a body that they took home to kind of sleep with it, introduce it to the rest of the family. It’s a very weird story.”
(The child, by the way, was not stillborn; he lived for several hours.)
Alan Colmes brought it up last week, earning a well-deserved stinging rebuke from the boss. (Video of that exchange and Santorum explaining why his family handled the infant’s death in that manner can be found here. Asked about it on the trail in Iowa, he explained that it was important for his other children to “know they had a brother.”)
Certain liberals cannot help themselves but to bring up this intensely personal incident and showcase it as evidence that Santorum is somehow unfit for the presidency. This is who they are. When they cite the old phrase “the personal is political,” they mean it; no personal act, thought, or moment is off-limits in the name of their agenda. Pundits opine on all kinds of topics, but God help the newspaper columnist who believes his purpose in life is to decree which forms of mourning the loss of a child are okay and which ones are too “weird” for a potential president.
If, God forbid, the Obamas had endured the same tragedy and they responded the same way, the tale would be told far and wide of the big hearts and good souls of the first couple. Because this tale comes from a conservative Republican, some liberals believe those acts must be something twisted, perverse, insane, etc. (Sadly, if the Obamas had a story like this, I think a few on our side would echo Colmes and Robinson and point it out as some sign of freakishness.)
This is what our politics is today. Figure out who is doing the behavior and work backwards from there to determine whether it should be celebrated or denounced.
What is truly weird is the liberal fixation on making more dead babies.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse(.....I think a few on our side would echo Colmes and Robinson and point it out as some sign of freakishness.)
Does the reptilian Alan Colmes really want to make a habit of pointing out the freakish? I don't think he's thought this through.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseEver wonder if liberals actually understand what the tolerance they always preaching everybody should have for different points of view means?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI wonder if someone at NRO, who are far more eloquent than me, would explain why the Santorum family's action, while not in the main stream, is recommended by medical professionals throughout the country when dealing with the loss of a child.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseDo medical professionals really recommend sleeping on a bed with your decease child for 24 hours then taking the child home?
I’m sorry, but I missed why the other children could not come to the hospital and see their baby brother at the hospital in the room with their parents.
I also missed why going to funeral home was not appropriate place for the wake.
I would not use the term very weird. But, I’ll admit their actions are different then the norm.
Usually when a love one dies in a hospital we gather at the hospital, then the deceased love one is taken to a funeral home.
I cannot envision how they transported the dead body. Did the hospital give them a casket?
I’m sorry, but Mrs. Santorum wrote about this in a book. People are free to say whether they think what was describe is strange or not. If they did not want anyone to comment about and offer different opinions; they did not have to write about it and discuss the matter publically.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThese people are disgusting. What I find infinitely more weird than Santorum is a "community organizer" named Barack Hussein Obama who spent the first half of his life calling himself "Barry," attended a fringe "church" where his nutty pastor would rail from the pulpit about all manner of governmental and Jewish "conspiracies" and wish damnation upon America, refused for years to release his birth certificate, still refuses to release his college transcripts despite his asserted genius, and has a wife who could not even spell at a fourth grade level in her racialist senior thesis.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseRight on, brother, right on! (Re-elect the Prez!!!)
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhat does it say about Mr. Robinson's grip on reality that he can't get down with how the Santorums mourn the loss of a child, but he could get down with Mrs. Santorum asking the doctor to partially deliver the child, but hold it's head in a second while he sucks the living child's brain out?
What does it say about the modern left that two members of the mainstream media's first reaction to Santorum is to attack how he and his family choose to mourn the loss of a child?
What does it say about them that they've apparently never even heard of a wake?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseFolks, this is very weird behavior. My wife and I, too, had a baby that died shortly after birth. The thought of taking home the dead body to show the other child would never crossed our minds and was never recommended to us by professionals. His views on personal private sexual matters, be it contraception, being forced to bear a rapists child, or gay marriage is one reason why this Republican would never vote for him in a primary or general election. Nominate him if you like but you'll lose some of your fellow Republicans (especially those of us younger more libertarian minded Republicans).
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIf I may be allowed to be permitted to re-post my comment from the RCP page (though mildly edited):
What a sick and vile human being (and I use that term loosely).
My wife and I lost our first child together; he lived just a minutes. Afterwards, they cleaned him up and handed him to us. We held him, and each other, for hours and cried and cried. If he had siblings, they would have been there too to say goodbye. The are the only hours I ever got to spend with him. Most (decent) medical professionals recommend this these days (it's standard procedure) to allow the parents to grieve and say "goodbye" to their child, rather than having it whisked away like a lump of flesh, an excised tumor.
True story: Some time after this happened, I ran into someone who I had gone a number of rounds with legislatively. He was a liberal as I am conservative. We made polite chit-chat, but I couldn't hide what had happen. I will never forget the look of pain in his eyes; he and his wife had lost their first child as well. In that moment, we had a life-time bond. We were still opponents from time to time, but never foes.
May God have mercy on your soul Mr. Robinson.
All we have left of our son are the ultra-sound pictures, two pictures the nurse took, one of me with him (my wife couldn't bear posing) and the smallest onesie and baby hat you have ever seen. To have lost those precious hours with him is literally unthinkable to me.
I don't think the Left realizes just how powerful this is to so many people.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseEugene Robinson is a creep for bringing this up again. At least Alan Colmes may have shot off without thinking before he did so. Eugene thought about this and then decided to bring it up again. Was Robinson told this would focus group well or was this his own independent idea?
And this add from Ron Paul supporters has me shaking my head too. Huntsman? And you are attacking him on this? Insanity.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWell, good luck with your defense of Santorum's. (And as a supporter of the president, I really really mean that.)
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWriting as someone who has lost a child - I can tell you that the grieving process is NOT logical and does not in anyway resemble the grieving one expresses for the loss of a parent, relative, or friend. Mr. Robinson's declaration of "weird, very weird" is unfortunate, though understandable. We still have our sons ashes at our house (I'd scatter them at sea tomorrow, my wife feels strongly otherwise.) we know another family that closed the door to their deceased child's bedroom and NEVER opened it again. Greiving your child's death is weird - period.
There are plenty of good reasons to consider Rick Santorum weird - his positions on human rights, contraception, and earmarks - to name but a few, but to criticize the manner in which he chooses to deal with a tragedy no family should have to deal with...that's weird.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI have always liked Eugene Robinson and disliked Rick Santorum, but I too am appalled that, one, Robinson called the child who lived a few hours stillborn, and, two, that he found the Santorums handling of the death "very weird." I was glad to see him offer a sort of apology on Morning Joe on Jan. 6, but I would have liked it had he worded it more apologetically. I am a left-of-Obama Democrat, but when my side is in the wrong, I don't mind admitting it. My heart goes out to the Santorum family. I know that losing that child must have broken their hearts. It would have broken mine. Nor will I condone the mocking of any family that grieves stillbirths or infant deaths. This was horrible.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhat about the John Edwards story? How come liberals aren't creeped out about his story of climbing on to the slab at the funeral home and hugging his son's body? I didn't hear any liberals say that was "weird" - or any criticism at all. The only conservative criticism - and indeed, the creepy part of the story - was the way in which Edwards communicated the story to John Kerry. He told Kerry that he had never revealed that information to anyone else - when in fact he had told Kerry the same thing a year or two earlier.
Conservatives have the ability to separate the personal from the political. Liberals are incapable of doing so, and therefore anything - including personal tragedy of a conservative - is fair game. After all, to the liberal, the ends justify the means.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe left reveals their stunning ignorance and soulless evil nature yet again.
People used to have their dear departed loved ones lie in state inside their homes, sometimes for days, so that friends and family could pay their final respects and reminisce about the person’s life or pray over them, it was called a “wake” and it was a common practice. In fact, we still do these things, only they are now mostly done inside of funeral homes (at HUGE expense to the grieving family, BTW), but it is still called a wake. Has Eugene Robinson (and the other leftist cretins) never heard of a wake?
There were other children in the family who loved their new baby brother long before he was born; the hospital said it might help the children to process their grief if they could see and spend some time with their little baby brother before he had to be buried.
The only thing “sick”, “twisted” or “crazy” about any of this is the evil and disgusting way that the leftist ghouls are beating up on the Santorum family for how they mourned their dear beloved little baby who passed away.
The Santorum family did not do anything illegal, and the hospital allowed them to do this; maybe the hospital thought it better this way than to bring all of the children to the hospital, I don’t know, but the fact of the matter is that people DO spend time with their departed loved ones, it was NOT that long ago when it WAS traditionally done IN THEIR HOMES, and it is only fairly recent that wakes for the dead have been held more usually in funeral homes.
Alan Colmes, Eugene Robinson, and rest of the ignorant and cruel leftist jerks who are saying such disgusting things are ghouls, they are monsters, and they are hardcore jackasses.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOn one hand, we have a liberal politiks elite black male news media columnist (Eugene Robinson) sharing on MSNBC his critique ("very weird") about a neo-conservative elite white male POTUS candidate's "personal way" of mourning his dying new-born. And some if not many deem this "in-sensitive" -- out of bounds of political/personal commentary. On the other hand, many if not most conservative (especially non-black) Americans (including the mainstream media -- but especially conservative) take-for-granted DAILY the covert and code-word insults, derogatory, and fallacious logic statements, comments, and opinions of Rick Santorium, all GOP candidates, and most of the layperson supports/citizens -- here I'm talking about racism, sexism, homophobia, and capitalism greed ... incident after incident after incident over 235 years to date ... specially directed at BLACKS ... and present day still women, LGBT citizens, the poor, and anyone that doesn't fit within the self-serving, self-referential paradigm/myopic values/perspectives of the neo-conservative right. A nation of 308.7 million DIVERSE ciitizens, but especially those non-white or elite, must hear, be subjected to, and negative by code-word dog-whistle insults, cultural insensitivities, and just plain rationalize bigotry daily -- and Rick Santorium spews this toxic non-sense, whether he personally believes it or not, to get votes ... panders to the worst regressive segments of our nation.
In short, I have don't condone Eugene commenting on how folks mourn death. But I also have lived 52 years in a nation (as a black male -- well educated from the bottom to the middle-class) to see first-hand, observe, and study how hypocritical, condescending, and bigoted opportunist the GOP and elites like Santorium can be, continue to be -- but then cry FOUL when they find themselves on the receiving end of the insensitivities they espouse daily ... from Santorium's ignorant male pro-life impositions on 308.7 million because like most males (and regressive females) he can't respect the personal rights of individual women to CHOOSE or his denials of scapegoating blacks as being dependent on government anti-poverty programs -- when most poor persons in America are white given their 200 plus million census majority in our nation ... not to mention all of us are dependent on government for its services in some form or fashion, especially corporations seeking subsidies and favorable regulations or deregulations. So if we're going to hold Eugene Robinson up to some ideal standard of decency/sensitivity, then let's first practice what we preach ...starting with Rick Santorium and the GOP renouncing all forms of code word and dog-whistle bigoted politiks aim at minorties, women, gays, the poor, and thinks and acts progressive versus myopic neo-conservative regressive. So, no, I don't think Rick's mourning practices are "very weird" nor do I care about such. But I do think his regressive politiks are personally, politically, offensive to me -- as an African American ... and I suspect many women, gays, and struggling poor Americans. But will Rick apologize for such offense, or the GOP -- no way, as it's all 1st Amendment/Status-Quo-Politiks for him, politicians like him, and the constituents they pander to and represent.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseHere's a tip: If your argument relies on "code words" or "dog whistle politics" that only you can see and hear, it's probably baloney. Your fantasy of being persecuted by a racist white majority is all in your mind. Yes, there are white bigots. They are stigmatized and ostracized. We whites don't get together and whisper about uppity Negros, we don't abandon the neighborhood in droves when a black family moves in. Mostly we don't give a rip, no matter what you've been told. My teenage son went to his prom, fully 25% of the couples there were interracial. Nobody cared. My 7 year old just asked me last month what the N word meant, he'd never heard it before his best (black) friend Kyran used it. You mentioned "choice" above. I am absolutely HORRIFIED that 25 million black babies have been murdered since Roe, that's not "choice", that's dayum near genocide and I, a white male, have no problems labeling it such. Here's the thing: it's not me and my conservative, Republican kind who are riding the Reaper's scythe through the unborn of your community Mr. Cook, it's the white "progressives" and the elders of that same community. We racists basturds are the ones trying to stop it because we value one life, any life, all human life, regardless of color.
You have the right to your delusions. If you want to scream 'Look, Sancho, a Racist" every time you spy an innocent windmill, it's your choice to beclown yourself. I am no longer going to be a party to your accusations. You can till at windmills until the cows come home, and I'm no longer going to humor you. I am not a racist, the vast majority of the people I know are not racists, and if you persist on claiming that we are, well, that's your problem, not mine. I deal in reality friend. I hope you'll join me one day.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe people most directly responsible for "making the political personal" in this sordid episode are the Santorums -- they are the ones for whom "nothing is off-limits in the name of their agenda." In the most crass possible way.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOf course, had Mrs. Santorum elected to have an abortion and the Santorums' baby lived outside the womb post-delivery, Eugene Robinson, Alan Colmes and President Obama would have thought it perfectly normal to kill that baby and/or deny it medical assistance.
I know very well which of the two situations is "not just a little weird but . . . really weird."
BTW: Mr. Robinson is a disgusting person for the content of his character, not the color of his skin, as is the much paler Alan Colmes, and just as our current President is, so save your race cards for somebody who'll blink.
Evil has many skin tones, trolls.
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