Having given Gingrich enormousgrief for his attacks on Romney’s management of Bain Capital, it’s worth noting that his new hit on Romney on abortion is perfectly fair game, and that while the facts are less incendiary than the Gingrich ad suggests, they remind viewers that Romney once was pro-choice, governed a largely pro-choice state, and made some decisions that irk pro-lifers even after his conversion to the cause of life.
The ad states, “Romney appointed a pro-abortion judge . . .”
Fact Check: “ABC reported that Romney aides had said the governor considered a district court appointment to be different from one for appellate court, since the former rules on criminal and civil cases, not constitutional matters.” To some pro-lifers, the views of a judge in a criminal court that’s unlikely to address the issue of abortion’s legality and constitutionality may be irrelevant. But to others, the issue can never be put aside, and they would argue a true pro-lifer does not promote judges who support abortion.
“expanded access to abortion pills . . .”
The pill in question is the “morning after pill,” not RU-486.
Greg Pfundstein, executive director of the Chiaroscuro Foundation, explained in the Corner that “Plan B and similar drugs are controversial because in addition to their contraceptive effects they are known to have abortifacient effects by preventing fertilized embryos from implanting in the uterine wall.” While Romney would undoubtedly argue that the pill is more accurately classified as a contraceptive, some pro-lifers undoubtedly would interpret this as permitting a form of abortion.
“put Planned Parenthood on a state medical board but failed to put a pro-life group on the same board.”
Fact Check: “[Anne] Fox, president of Massachusetts Citizens for Life, said this issue was ‘minor’ and didn’t have anything to do with abortion. ‘The committee doesn’t decide anything that has anything to do with abortion. It is just a rate-setting thing,’ Ms. Fox told us. ‘It was not something that right-to-lifers were concerned about at the time.’”
“And Romney signed government-mandated health care with taxpayer-funded abortions.”
Fact Check finds that Massachusetts taxpayers paid for abortion before the law, and they were required to pay for it under any change to the law: “The state health care law didn’t say anything about abortion. Instead, the state exchange later decided that subsidized insurance plans would include coverage for abortion. And the exchange may have had little choice but to do so. In 1981, the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that women eligible for Medicaid had a state constitutional right to payments for medically necessary abortions. In 1997, the state high court again ruled that Massachusetts must cover medically necessary abortions if it covers other medically necessary care, such as childbirth.”
In the end, the question before pro-lifers is whether they believe Romney is a completely different man than when he said this in 2002:
For what it’s worth, since entering politics, Mitt Romney has done a lot to help pro-life Republicans. And one can imagine whether a President Romney would dare cross the pro-life community once in office, if he had any desire to see a second term.
Sorry Newt. Yes the abortion flip flop is a legitimate target. Bain was not. Newt, with your antics this week you reminded us all about Dede Scozzafava, cuddling on the couch with Nancy Pelosi, trashing Paul Ryan's fiscal plan...
Jim, I agree that Romney is no Kerry. But in the previous post you link to, where you list his donations to other GOP candidates, don't you think he did that precisely so that he could point to them and say "see, I'm a conservative now"? It's cheap insurance for him.
Frankly, I think less of the man's intelligence (and ability to lead a party) if he donated to Christine O'Donnell and Sharron Angle... ugh.
Actually Romney vetoed a bill expanding access to Plan B pills. The 85% Democrat legislature overwrote his veto.
Here is Romney's reasoning for the veto:
But, he said, in consulting with several doctors about the morning-after pill, he learned that it could not only prevent the formation of an embryo, as birth control pills do, but also prevent an embryo already formed from being implanted in the womb.
Mr. Romney said he believed that life began at conception.
"If it only dealt with contraception, I wouldn't have a problem with it," he said of the morning-after pill. "But it also in some cases terminates life after conception, and therefore it ceases to be a contraceptive pill. It becomes an abortion pill."
With regard to the morning after pill, I don't think Jim Geraghty properly stated Mitt's "defense". Mitt would say that Newt's charge misrepresents what actually happened. Here's how David French summarizes the facts:
"Next, what about Mitt’s allegedly inconsistent position on the morning-after pill? ... Mitt vetoed a bill that would have mandated access without a prescription, a move wholeheartedly endorsed by the pro-life movement. The bill Mitt actually signed... was merely a request for Massachusetts to get federal reimbursement for services it was already providing at cost (roughly $5 million) to the state. The bill wasn’t expanding access to abortions but instead cost-shifting contraceptive services to the federal government. In fact, even Mitt’s critics said it 'could' expand access to the morning-after pill, not that it would."
You should never entertain this sophistry Mr. Geraghty, never.
"the facts are less incendiary than the Gingrich ad suggests"
Facts?
Where I come from, we call this gross exaggeration and vivid distortion.
* Would anyone who is Pro-Life vote for Obama over a potential Romney Nominee?
Of course not...
Like Reagan or even Bush, Mr. Romney is welcome to embrace a Pro-Life agenda, and his past record is really more positive on the issue than negative.
Besides, economics and foreign policy are the priorities in the essential effort to remove Obama from the Presidency. Romney is clearly the strongest Candidate for the Nomination, period.
And frankly, Newt Gingrich has no right challenging anyone's policies, beliefs, record, etc. This is a Beltway Celebrity train wreck, who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi at the request of Al Gore, who is now busy trashing admirable private investment and impressive risk taking within the US Free Market System.
Gingrich is a joke, and those who hyped this phony, should be wondering how they could have tossed away a chunk of their reputation so foolishly.
All these guys are flawed. Biggest problem w Newt is his unelectability. He could only beat Obama if all the unknowns out there went his way. Give him a 5% chance of winning if nominated. Romney looks like close to 50-50. I think it's nutty for conservatives to line up behind an almost-sure-loser like Newt, as good as he is on most of the issues...
All these guys are flawed. Biggest problem w Newt is his unelectability. He could only beat Obama if all the unknowns out there went his way. Give him a 5% chance of winning if nominated. Romney looks like close to 50-50. I think it's nutty for conservatives to line up behind an almost-sure-loser like Newt, as good as he is on most of the issues...
Sorry Newt. Yes the abortion flip flop is a legitimate target. Bain was not. Newt, with your antics this week you reminded us all about Dede Scozzafava, cuddling on the couch with Nancy Pelosi, trashing Paul Ryan's fiscal plan...
There is another GOP candidate that deserves some positive attention and credit...
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseJim, I agree that Romney is no Kerry. But in the previous post you link to, where you list his donations to other GOP candidates, don't you think he did that precisely so that he could point to them and say "see, I'm a conservative now"? It's cheap insurance for him.
Frankly, I think less of the man's intelligence (and ability to lead a party) if he donated to Christine O'Donnell and Sharron Angle... ugh.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseActually Romney vetoed a bill expanding access to Plan B pills. The 85% Democrat legislature overwrote his veto.
Here is Romney's reasoning for the veto:
But, he said, in consulting with several doctors about the morning-after pill, he learned that it could not only prevent the formation of an embryo, as birth control pills do, but also prevent an embryo already formed from being implanted in the womb.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseMr. Romney said he believed that life began at conception.
"If it only dealt with contraception, I wouldn't have a problem with it," he said of the morning-after pill. "But it also in some cases terminates life after conception, and therefore it ceases to be a contraceptive pill. It becomes an abortion pill."
I don't think abortion is on most voters' top 10 list of issues this year. Maybe even top 15.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWell, it should be.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWith regard to the morning after pill, I don't think Jim Geraghty properly stated Mitt's "defense". Mitt would say that Newt's charge misrepresents what actually happened. Here's how David French summarizes the facts:
"Next, what about Mitt’s allegedly inconsistent position on the morning-after pill? ... Mitt vetoed a bill that would have mandated access without a prescription, a move wholeheartedly endorsed by the pro-life movement. The bill Mitt actually signed... was merely a request for Massachusetts to get federal reimbursement for services it was already providing at cost (roughly $5 million) to the state. The bill wasn’t expanding access to abortions but instead cost-shifting contraceptive services to the federal government. In fact, even Mitt’s critics said it 'could' expand access to the morning-after pill, not that it would."
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYou should never entertain this sophistry Mr. Geraghty, never.
"the facts are less incendiary than the Gingrich ad suggests"
Facts?
Where I come from, we call this gross exaggeration and vivid distortion.
* Would anyone who is Pro-Life vote for Obama over a potential Romney Nominee?
Of course not...
Like Reagan or even Bush, Mr. Romney is welcome to embrace a Pro-Life agenda, and his past record is really more positive on the issue than negative.
Besides, economics and foreign policy are the priorities in the essential effort to remove Obama from the Presidency. Romney is clearly the strongest Candidate for the Nomination, period.
And frankly, Newt Gingrich has no right challenging anyone's policies, beliefs, record, etc. This is a Beltway Celebrity train wreck, who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi at the request of Al Gore, who is now busy trashing admirable private investment and impressive risk taking within the US Free Market System.
Gingrich is a joke, and those who hyped this phony, should be wondering how they could have tossed away a chunk of their reputation so foolishly.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAll these guys are flawed. Biggest problem w Newt is his unelectability. He could only beat Obama if all the unknowns out there went his way. Give him a 5% chance of winning if nominated. Romney looks like close to 50-50. I think it's nutty for conservatives to line up behind an almost-sure-loser like Newt, as good as he is on most of the issues...
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAll these guys are flawed. Biggest problem w Newt is his unelectability. He could only beat Obama if all the unknowns out there went his way. Give him a 5% chance of winning if nominated. Romney looks like close to 50-50. I think it's nutty for conservatives to line up behind an almost-sure-loser like Newt, as good as he is on most of the issues...
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