Perhaps alleged shooter Jared Lee Loughner’s YouTube page, while it is up.
The videos are full of paranoid and nonsensical statements about government “brainwash” and “mind control”. A number are structured as syllogisms.
Some screenshots:
Loughner also had a MySpace page that has since been taken down. Fox News reports that the last writing on the page was “Goodbye, friends.” And among his favorite books, he listed both Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto. Other books listed To Kill A Mockingbird, The Wizard of Oz, Brave New World, Alice In Wonderland, Plato’s Republic, We The Living.
By early accounts, a deeply disturbed person with no discernable ideology.
I watched the videos. These aren't even the craziest. The one about mind control(complete with a bizarre chart), community college, and years(defies explanation) are 10 times crazier.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseHis thoughts are a collection of conflicting buzzwords and his obsession for currency betrays no understanding of it. My hunch is he has a serious medical condition.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNo discernable ideology? Based on his reading list, I'd say he really likes "required readings". Out of 21 books he has as "favorite books", I would say 13 or more would be required reading in a standard K-12 public education system.
Apparently he was very impressionable.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAnd the very first comment on the New York Times website regrding this story is:
"Stop this tea party madness. One civil war in our land is quite enough."
So, of course, it's our fault.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIf the tea party really thought it'd done nothing wrong, it would have no reason to fear a backlash. The panic-stricken comments here and elsewhere indicate they know they went overboard and are trying to abdicate responsibility.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWith Tim McVeigh, they went after Limbaugh. With this case, they HOPED to go after Palin.
After discovering this loon's web rantings, is it any wonder why they now seek to control the Internet?
The narrative was all set and ready for the Sunday talk shows, then (oh darn) the Internet destroyed the meme before they could get it out of the box.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseJonah's Guy - how much do you want to infer from a web comment? I'm pretty sure you can find plenty of anonymous people online (like you and me here) saying all sorts of things about this, and plenty of that will be opportunistic drivel.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNotice the use of the past tense in the YouTube info. And you left out "Peter Pan" from his book list.
A sick person with some anarchist-like babbling.
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"is it any wonder why they now seek to control the Internet?"
Were you quoting the shooter or are you equally deranged?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseParanoid schizophrenic.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI haven't watched his videos, but just the words he uses in his You Tube profile tell me he was obviously suicidal ("My favorite interest WAS...", "I HAD favorite books")
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseConsidering that his last video was posted almost a month ago, he only joined You Tube a couple of months before that... someone who knew him should have noticed something.
This is why I strongly feel family that when someone who is mentally disturbed and/or suicidal ends up harming or killing someone, the people around that person should be standing next to them before the judge and jury. They had the right mind to notice and do something, he did not.
Because they ignored his signs and didn't stop this, the death of a 9-year-old child is on their heads more than it is on his.
To make it worse, I wonder how long till we see the "funny videos" his friends and/or family made about him "getting weird" and "going mental". Just like the family of the man who drove his car through the farmer's market killing and injuring dozens. His family made a bunch of "comedy" videos about his driving before it happened.
AemJeff - if you cruise around every story, blog, twit, comment box, etc., you will find the most disgusting thoughts coming from the left. I'm reading stupid stuff from the right, but hands-down, the most sick comments are from the left.
I don't know how ideology comes into play at all here, maybe I'm the one who's kooky. But when someone kills like this, the last thing on my mind - actually, it never even crosses my mind - is what the @#$%! lever this guy pulled in November.
God help us all.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI very seriously want to condemn this as a right wing nutjob shooting, but I'm going to refrain until we know more about this obviously confused child.
All Americans need to seriously think about how we engage in political discourse. The violent rhetoric being pushed by both sides is going to result in many, many more deaths if we don't get our act together. Now.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse1981: An insane indidual attacks Ronald Reagan and everyone comes together hoping for a quick recovery for all concerned. Hinkly is immediately dismissed by the nutjob he is by all concerned.
Today: A insane individual attacks an obscure representative (and others) and the Left immediately goes on the offensive, hoping to cash in on the death and destruction. They will burn as many news cycles as they can trying to make the shooter a representative of anyone who disagrees with them.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseColonel Travis: Funny how the other guys are always worse, huh?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNo matter what his political persuasion, first reactions will be that he's a "right-wing" loon. Get ready for the crocodile tears from Pelosi and her friends. Just like Muslim attacks, this must be a "lone wolf," right?
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse@Colonel I agree that ideology doesn't come in to play here at all, but, very respectfully, I think you illustrate the impulse to demonize the other side.
You refer to "disgusting thoughts" coming from the left, but merely "stupid stuff" from the right. I think it's fair to say that, when it comes to the web, there's a lot of disgusting things on both sides. Also, this idea that the left is worse than the right or vice versa is just a bias in our prospectives. We defend our side, our tribe. It's just a natural tendency.
I know it feels like unilateral disarmament, but I hope the right can not give in to pointing fingers in the other direction. My worry is that the left is going to, stupidly, blame the right for this violence and the right, defensively, is going to say that the left is much worse. The result is that we are all going to be at each other's thoughts.
I think during the craziness of the anti-Bush era if a pro-war Republican congressmen was assassinated there'd be a lot of people on the right that would be ready to jump up and down on the left.
There's crazy people on both sides. The crazy people don't define the mainstream of either side. What happened was a tragedy. An insane person was responsible. For the good of the country we should all dial down violent rhetoric and avoid demonizing each other.
Unless you guys disagree. Then I call you all hateful narrow-minded fascists who must be destroyed. :)
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAemJeff, no, it's not funny.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseTwitter from a high school friend of the shooter. Claims he had past interactions with the Congresswoman and labeled her "stupid and unintelligent".
She also claimed that he was a liberal when she knew him FWIW. Personally, he seemed out-of-touch, not from a political party but from reality.
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI looked at some of this maniac's stuff. One scene shows him BURNING THE UNITED STATES FLAG. There is NO WAY you can tie this guy to the Tea Party...for I do not know any Tea Party members who would burn the American Flag!
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