. . . the first of which is the least important, but perhaps interesting. Three years ago, I moderated a panel in Jordan featuring Naguib Sawiris, head of Orascom, the telecommunications giant. It was Sawiris who made it so. He was described to me as maybe the richest man in Egypt. Everyone knew him as a go-getter who dreamed of the modernization of the Middle East: not merely dreamed of it, but did something about it (all the while making money for himself and his many thousands of employees). He went beyond the Middle East: He was placing cellphones into the hands of Pakistanis, even poor ones. (Who isn’t poor?) He was also the first telecommunications man into North Korea.
I asked him when Middle Easterners would have laptops. He said, “Far too expensive. Beyond the reach of Middle Easterners. Cellphones for now.”
Anyway, according to a news report yesterday, he has fled Egypt.
2) Mohamed ElBaradei’s tenure at the IAEA was disastrous. I could get into chapter and verse, as I have in the past. He spent much of his time protecting Iran from sanctions and, of course, military attack. He was reluctant — he was open about this — to report Iranian violations to the Security Council, because he knew such reporting would trigger sanctions. I believe that a serious case can be made that the 2005 Nobel peace prize to the IAEA and ElBaradei was the worst, most misguided ever given (in the 110-year history of the award).
In any case, Egypt could do worse than to have ElBaradei at its head, now.
3) The Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty has been in place since 1979. Since that time, only one other nation has made peace with Israel: Jordan (in 1994). Those are the only two Arab nations to have entered into treaties with Israel: Egypt and Jordan. There have been only two leaders in Egypt since the signing of the Egyptian-Israeli treaty: Sadat (assassinated in 1981) and Mubarak. (For that matter, there have been only two leaders in Jordan — Hussein and his son Abdullah.)
Question: Will the government that replaces Mubarak abide by the treaty? Or renounce it? In renouncing the treaty, the next government might say, “It was always a mistake to make peace with the Zionists. It was even a shame and a crime, a mark on our national honor. We will now remove that mark. We are rejoining the Arab fold, assuming our natural leadership role in the fight against the alien entity in our midst.”
Remember, there was an unholy furor over Sadat’s signing of the treaty. The Arab League expelled Egypt, and moved League headquarters from Cairo to Tunis. (Egypt was readmitted ten years later, and the League returned to Cairo.) The peace between Egypt and Israel has sometimes been very cold. For example, the Egyptians have withheld an ambassador from Israel. But it has stuck. That treaty has stuck. And that has been hugely important in the Middle East.
Treaties are not forever, as we know. De Gaulle said they were like girls: They come and go. (Sorry to introduce a flippancy into a grave discussion.)
4) Here is a question I have asked many times — have asked the smartest Middle Easterners and Middle East analysts I know: Is Mubarak a dictator, keeping a great nation, Egypt, from democratic progress? Or is he a patriot, keeping Egypt out of the clutches of the Islamists? The answer is: He is some mixture of those. And maybe his greatest offense has been to stifle democratic elements, people who say no to both “presidential dictatorship,” of a secular nature, and Islamism.
But then, you knew that . . .
One quick point.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe peace treaties were made with the explicit promise of large grants of aid from the US.
That might not continue
"I believe that a serious case can be made that the 2005 Nobel peace prize to the IAEA and ElBaradei was the worst, most misguided ever given (in the 110-year history of the award)."
I don't know, did El Baradei ever throw acid in someone's face like dear old Rigoberta Menchu?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYou say that Egypt could do worse than having Iranian puppet ElBaradei in control, which is as true as far as it goes, but a little like saying 'at least you don't have cancer' after a stroke - the alternative may be worse, but things are definitely not going well.
My question is if we have any idea who we should be promoting, however quietly, as a pro-western, pro-liberalization alternative to the dictator of convenience model in effect up to now.
Obama already failed with the opportunities in Iran, but it looks like the failure is endemic to our diplomatic and intelligence corps - we don't have a clue as to who might actually be on our side rather than the powerful figure we can buy cooperation from.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseEnjoyed the article, but..."sorry to introduce flippancy"?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNot too sorry since you typed it and left it in, being as that it is so easy to remove. You should of said, "sorry if that seems flippant under the circumstances".
I fear, like many I'm sure, that Egypt will go the way of our erstwhile friend Turkey.
PS...How we can continue with our plans to sell Turkey advanced fighter planes is beyond my comprehension. Though, unfortunately, it may not be long before our fighters are no longer pre-eminent, the casualty of not understanding that Freedom isn't Free...
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYes, I suppose you could have something worse than ElBaradei. You could have a more immediate change to Muslim Brotherhood governance.
I can't believe the intrigue in a transitory governance lead by ElBaradei. Transitory to what? Well, transitory to what would surely be Muslim Brotherhood leadership.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"The Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty has been in place since 1979. [... ...] Question: Will the government that replaces Mubarak abide by the treaty? Or renounce it?"
I remember reading that the USA pays Egypt an absolutely humungous amount of money every year on the pretext of 'foreign aid' but actually a bribe to sign the treaty initially, and subsequently a bribe to stick to it. I guess that'll be a factor in their deliberations.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseLast year's Pew poll indicated that 49% of Muslims in Egypt (purportedly 90% of Egyptians are Muslim) have a favorable view of Hamas. Perhaps a leader could push Egypt in a more moderate direction. However, to gain power, a leader may have to follow the peoples' sentiments.
In the past few weeks, El Baradei has made a few, at best, equivocatory statements regarding the Muslim Brotherhood (at worst, sympathetic statements). As IAEA head, he also defended Iran (as Jay notes) from action which may have altered their behavior.
I think that westerners are now in a bad position, but one not perhaps as immediately bad as that of Israel. A very large percentage of Egyptians are pro Hamas. The apparent leader of the opposition is pro Brotherhood and Iran (at least not against them). And, nominally pro West leadership in Egypt is on the wane.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseRegardin Mubarek, to paraphrase LBJ, "He may be a SOB, but he's our SOB."
Hard to see any change in the staus quo in Egypt as more beneficial to American interests. Cairo today is not Boston, 1775; it's Tehran, 1978.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse@ mnmike: I heard earlier that The Muslim Brotherhood has endorsed ElBaradei, no doubt anticipating the final result of a caretaker government, lead by him. He just said on CNN that although his priority is world peace, etc; he would be willing to step in for the Egyptian people. He says this after he appeared in Egypt before others saw fit to comment much on the situation. There seems to be a shallow dishonesty about the man. Somehow I feel that beneath the shallow facade is something dark and conniving.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse1. Sawiris is in ELGauna, in Egypt. he did not flee.
2. Mubarak is good, however, to stay in power for 30 years is a bit too much for any nation. He has to retire at some point. Worse of it all about Mubarak is he is not alone, he has family, and entourage, who been around for 30 years. They must be put to trial. They imply have too much to loose by giving in. They will try to stay.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe vast majority of Egyptians hate Israel and want to repudiate the peace. However, any Egyptian government has to deal with some very hard realities.
First, Egypt has fought four wars against Israel and lost them all very badly. Second, Egypt's substantial U.S. aid is conditioned on keeping the peace. This aid is the main support of Egypt's military.
My guess is that the Egyptian army will block the formation of an overtly Islamist and anti-Israel government, but the Moslem Brotherhood will be represented, and the new regime will be as anti-Israel as possible without doing anything that would terminate U.S. aid.
It's rather like the Obamacrats re Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo. It's clear what they would prefer to do, but even they have yielded publicly to geopolitical reality.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"And maybe his greatest offense has been to stifle democratic elements, people who say no to both “presidential dictatorship,” of a secular nature, and Islamism."
Why not put scare quotes around 'democratic elements'? It is no secret that the 'democrats' who are active in Egypt would not be recognisable as such in the West--they are socialists and communists and they are allying with the islamists in Egypt, as they did in Iran, because they see a way to power in them--and believe, erroneously, that they will control the islamists after the revolution. It did not work in Iran, it will not work in Egypt.
These are not 'democrats' in any sense we'd think of. They do not deserve our support
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