As I mentioned there would be last night, there are three more Live Action videos recorded at Planned Parenthood clinics in Virgina being released today. In now-familiar scenarios, a man identifying himself as in sex work and explaining he has underage girls doing work for him, asks about tests, birth control, and abortions for these girls.
In a Falls Church, Va., Planned Parenthood clinic, a worker tells him, “We don’t necessarily look at the legal status, like I said. Abortion appointments do require photo ID. It’s nothing as far as records. It’s just photo ID that’s ever going to be required.”
In a Roanoke clinic, a worker suggests he consider going to the Health Department instead of taking girls to her clinic. It’s cheaper and easier to hide what’s going on. She tells him: “They’re discreet. They’re confidential. They, you know, don’t tell people what’s going on, because — frankly — it’s nobody’s business.”
The sex trafficking of children is nobody’s business?
Once again in Charlottesville, a worker assures: “Anybody here can help you. Everything here is confidential. We can’t give any information out.”
Perth Amboy wasn’t a fluke. Planned Parenthood has an institutional problem here. Yesterday we saw a clinic worker in Richmond offer advice on judicial bypass for underage abortions; during a Family Research Council webcast last night, Abby Johnson, a former Planned Parenthood employee said she was confident those were words she would have comfortably spoken on the job, and that she knows colleagues of hers did. By last night that wasn’t a shocking admission. This all seems just too routine.
Live Action has released the full, unedited videos for its Falls Church, Roanoke, and Charlottesville Planned Parenthood investigatory visits. And you can watch the full Richmond visit here.
Planned Parenthood and ACORN (or whatever it's called now) seem to be divisions of the same organization. Or maybe many of today's arch-liberals have no human decency or respect for the rule of law.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIsn't it ironic that NOW tried to use RICO against pro-life groups?
If we had a US AG with a modicum of morals or conscience, it would be time to turn the tables. But we don't.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseCurious that at first there was a stream of pro-PP posters spinning it as an 'isolated incident', griping about edited footage, and referencing James O'Keefe... and now they're silent.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIs the position of the Corner now that doctors should not provide medical services to anyone without checking their immigration status?
In case you are interested in the truth (which I know you are not)...
In the Fall Church video, when the man says they are underage, the woman says that if they come in for services, the clinic will report the statutory rape. She is also obviously horrified. She does say they will provide medical treatment to people without checking their immigration status--as every doctor will do.
In Roanoke, she tells them the government health clinic is a better place for prostitutes to get treatment than Planned Parenthood...is Lila Rose going to work to shut down local health departments next?
What exactly were these clinicians supposed to do? Jump up and call the police? They reported it to the police afterward. I am perplexed--what do you people want to see happen in these video? What do you think a Catholic Hospital would do if a girl came in and said she was a prostitute and had an STD? Would they toss her out on the street?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseMaybe some of the outraged could clarify what they would have liked to see the clinic workers do? Tell the fake p*** they refused to give medical treatment to prostitutes? Make a citizen's arrest and hold the fake p*** in a headlock while they called the police? Play along with the fake p*** until he left, then go report the visit to the authorities?
Well the workers may have done the latter. PP claims it reported many of these visits to the FBI. The videos wouldn't show that, of course..
The problem with entrapping people with hoaxes and hidden cameras is that you don't know what the entrapped person was really thinking. After all, if the hoaxer is lying throughout the video, how do we know the clinic worker isn't just playing along -- either because she realizes it's a hoax or she plans to report it later?
Thought experiment: Say Lila Rose and her partner (the man in the video) only hoaxed one PP clinic, and at the end of the visit they accidentally left their hidden camera behind. Say the next patient in the room found the camera, took it home, and watched it. What would that person assume?
They would assume the clinic worker offered medical treatment to underage prostitutes. They would also assume the man in the video was really a p*** running an underage prostitution ring. And they would probably assume whoever took the video (Rose) was really a prostitute.
If they had the full context they would know at least two of those assumptions were false -- possibly all three.
We don't really know what these videos show until we know what the workers did afterward.
PS: NRO, we can't write "p***"? Really? We're not children.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseEven if the clinic workers actually mean to do what they say in the video, I'm not at all convinced helping prostitutes is immoral. (I honestly don't know enough about HIPAA to say if it's illegal, but that's another matter.)
To accuse someone who offers medical aid to a child prostitute of "helping her p***" (as LiveAction does) is like accusing humanitarian workers in Burma of helping the junta. It's cynical and disgusting.
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYour comments almost made me puke. Who's side are you on? Do you have kids?
first of all they were asking about services for UNDERAGE prostitutes NOT of legal age prostitutes (even tho prostitution is illegal in most states?)
"you don't know what the entrapped person was really thinking" I am guessing they think these are real people not fake. So in any instance WHY wouldn't a PP emp. simply excuse themselves from the interview and report them to a supervisor immediately? Ever hear of a citizens arrest, they could have done that. Child prostitution is ILLEGAL, so PP appears to support such activity?
What laws were being broken here? I've watched the videos, and if I'm correct, the ones that were posted today were all reported to the FBI, right? How is this enabling sex traffic? You don't do yourself or your cause any favors by supporting people who misrepresent themselves and try to trick people into making potentially embarrassing statements. Find some real evidence that PP enables sex trafficking, and I might be more sympathetic. Support for these tactics is, frankly, below a publication such at NR. Buckley would go after PP on the issue and morals of Abortion, not hide behind a frankly laughable "fake p*mp" to try and get a "Gotcha!" moment.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"and if I'm correct, the ones that were posted today were all reported to the FBI, right?"
Did PP make that claim before or after the videos were posted?
As I said in the post from 10pm last night, if PP really reports these shouldn't they have come out and said the OTHER ones they reported? Methinks PP is full of it.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbusePP reported all of these incidents to the FBI last week, before the video came out. The only one that appears NOT to have been reported was the NJ one where the worker was rightly fired. Live Action seems to have panicked a bit and has now started releasing their videos that prove....well, not much.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSandy, you "guess" a lot of stuff.
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PP stated it knew of visits to at least 11 clinics -- this was several day ago, when only one video had been released.
That means in 11 cases the clinic workers did report the fake sex ring to their bosses after they were videotaped. How do we know the videos released today weren't some of those 11 cases? We don't.
Aside from that, I don't think you know very much about how underage prostitution works in this country. It isn't a case of little girls chained up in dungeons just waiting to be rescued. In most cases the p***'s spend years breaking down the girls' confidence and pumping them full of drugs until they don't WANT to be rescued. Nine times out of ten the girls are U.S. born runaways with terrible family lives, who think they have nowhere else to go.
Getting minors out of the sex trade is notoriously difficult. Police sometimes find pretense to arrest the girls just to get them off the streets for a night or two. The girls often go straight back to their p*** once they're out of jail. Regular youth and homeless shelters don't work at all. The girls simply runaway.
You can count on one hand the number of shelters in this country that have been effective in rehabilitating child prostitutes. They essentially function as second families for the girls and are extremely expensive to operate.
(How do I know this? Because I've done reporting on child trafficking for my newspaper, talking to FBI agents, police and social workers who try to help these girls.)
Child prostitution is not as rare as you'd think, either. There is no way to count the numbers of girls and boys in the sex trade because most of them hide. The only study to attempt to estimate the total, conducted 10 years ago, figured around 200,000 girls and boys worked as prostitutes in the US.
I don't know what these clinic workers did after the hoaxers left, or what their reasoning was. But I wouldn't immediately condemn them if their first instinct was to arrange treatment for the children. That's about 100% more likely to do the children some good than running out of the room and reporting that a p*** whose name you don't know said there were children, somewhere, working as prostitutes.
Or let's just defund PP because prostitutes and abortion = bad and OMG, the children!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseGonePostal77, the appropriate time to report these incidents was while they were happening.
It's real simple. You say "excuse me", go into the other room, and call the cops.
If you lack the courage or moral strength to do that, then you report the incident as soon as the guy leaves.
You don't wait until it's obvious that your reputation is in danger. Unless, of course, your endangered reputation is the only reason you're reporting something you normally wouldn't report.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI hope K-Lo reads redfate's comments.
Accurately informing people of the laws is not an "institutional problem" nor is trying to provide medical support to vulnerable people who are otherwise out of reach (these children, who obviously need help).
The real "institutional problem" is us - we have (through our elected government) no real answer to child trafficking, and yet we spend an inordinate amount of money running a "revolving door" system - a system that rarely gives the victims the type of support to get out of the sad circumstances these children are stuck in. It's also a societal problem that these children were not given the help they needed *before* they became drug addicted slaves, such as in their families, their churches, and in their schools.
Blaming a nurse at a clinic for this societal ill isn't going to help anyone. Punishing someone who is trying to disseminate accurate medical and legal information to do what she can to help at-risk people in the only way she can, also doesn't help anybody.
These nurses have seen what goes in in real life. They know that running out the door and calling the police isn't going actually do any good. In the end such a response is only going to ensure that these girls wind up getting no medical attention at all.
Is that your goal? To ensure that these vulnerable unfortunate brainwashed slaves get no medical attention at all? I am certain that it isn't, so therefore I must conclude that the folks who are outraged by these videos are not fully contemplating the unintended consequences of their outrage.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSomeRandomJerk,
So if we discover someone involved in sex trafficking it is better to not go to the police because then the child can get good healthcare? I think we should do a poll of teenage girls and ask them what they would rather have, repeated rapes or mediocre healthcare.
Here is a better plan: Go to the police and rescue the children from their frequent rapes and then work to get them healthcare. What good is healthcare when your body is getting attacked repeatedly?
Apparently they went to the authorities (on some of the cases) after the fact. They should go to the police at that moment. If they really cared about the girls' health wouldn't they attempt to rescue them right then?
I wonder what they would do if a father brought his daughter in for an abortion and he admitted he had raped her? What would they do?
The bottom line is PP is sick and we shouldn't be surprised that they would do things like this. If there is nothing wrong with killing babies then what could be wrong with child sex trafficking?
For NRO and everyone else,
How is PP exempt from required reporting rules for child abuse? Aren't educators, clergy, healthcare workers required to report child abuse if discovered?
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