Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner are in a war of words over the efficacy of Toomey’s Full Faith and Credit Act, a bill currently with 20 co-sponsors in the Senate.
Here’s the essence of the bill, in Toomey’s own words:
The bill would simply require the Treasury to make interest payments on our debt its first priority in the event the debt ceiling is not raised. This legislation is designed to maintain orderly financial markets by reassuring investors in U.S. Treasury securities that their investments are perfectly safe even in the unlikely event that the debt limit is temporarily reached.
Toomey wrote Geithner on February 2 to express his frustration with administration officials who refuse to take his legislation seriously. For instance, Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin said the consequences of the bill would be “default by another name.”
From the letter:
I am deeply concerned about the recent comments made by several administrations officials stating or implying that failure to raise the nation’s debt limit, prior to reaching it, would constitute a default on our debt and precipitate a financial crisis . . .
Not only are these comments factually incorrect and disproven by historical events, but, most disturbingly, they could undermine investor confidence in the U.S. government’s debt, thereby potentially precipitating some of the very reaction the Treasury Department should be preventing.
Essentially, Toomey is arguing that the administration’s claims — that failing to raise the debt ceiling would cause a national default — are not only false but irresponsible. He goes on to say that his legislation would be “unnecessary had administration officials not publicly raised the specter of a government default.”
Geithner wrote back to say that, in effect, “you’re wrong.” He said Toomey’s legislation was not only “unworkable” but “would be quite harmful if enacted.” And with a tangible whiff of condescension, offered the following “simple analogy”:
A homeowner could decide to “prioritize” and continue paying monthly mortgage payments, while opting to cease paying other obligations, such as car payments, insurance premiums, student loan and credit card payments, utilities, and so forth. Although the mortgage would be paid, the damage to that homeowner’s creditworthiness would be severe.
Similarly, while your legislation seeks to ensure that debt service payments would continue to be made after the debt limit is reached, it does not protect from non-payment the other obligations of the United States, such as military and civilian salaries, tax refunds, contractual payments to individuals and businesses for services and goods, and many others. If payments of these obligations were abruptly stopped, the world would recognize it as a first-ever failure by the United States to meet its commitments.
Like most Democrats when it comes to this issue, Geithner seems to be missing the point. Toomey is simply saying that the national debt, in all its forms, must be paid. The first analogy therefore seems to be talking past this argument. Most of the “other obligations” he mentioned are merely other forms of debt. More importantly, Toomey is trying to initiate a serious discussion about federal spending.
Suppose that Geithner’s “homeowner” is living far beyond his means and swimming in debt. He would be forced to concentrate on paying off that debt while, say, cutting back on other expenses, e.g., babysitters, dog-walkers, body guards, pillow-fluffers, and belly-dancers he’s been keeping on staff all these years, in order to do so. Toomey would argue that the United States is in this very position. Getting the debt under control is simply the first step. Beyond that, we desperately need to scale back spending, and better to start now before it gets any worse.
When Geithner talks about the risk that “other obligations” might not be met, and argues that this would basically amount to “default by another name,” he is wrongly equating mortgage payments and babysitter wages, as if sending the babysitter home an hour early would be akin to missing a loan repayment.
But, of course, this is what Democrats would have you believe. It is part of a concerted effort to defend their beloved federal programs, while at the same time pushing for even more “investment.” In addition to painting Republicans as fiscal madmen intent on shutting down the government, Democrats will argue that deep cuts of any kind would be horribly disruptive — that they will complicate our efforts in Iraq, for example.
Even if significant spending reduction measures are painful initially, it would pale in comparison to the catastrophe that awaits us if we simply continue down the same path. If administration officials are really so concerned about what our bondholders think of us, they could start getting our debt under control, or at the very least, make an effort.
If I was the editor of the corner, I would have picked "Toomey vs Timmy" for the headline.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseGeithner's analogy is bunk.
The family he describes would be singling out one CREDITOR, the bank which holds the mortgage, and excluding all others, which of course, would hurt the family's credit rating.
Toomey's plan is not to stiff any current creditors, but simply refrain from going out and taking on new ones.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIf Geitner won't appear before a Congressional sub-committee, keep having his minions show up, expose their lies/misleading statements and document it. Then, force Geitner to show (subpoena?) and expose him and the Administration for the spendthrifts that they are. As an added bonus, I'm sure there would be some great clips that could be used in 2012.
Of course, besides Geitner and the Dem's in Congress, Toomey (and Paul, Bachman, etc.) have to deal with their 'wobbly' GOP compatriots.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseShawn,
There would not be enough money to meet all current obligations. Hmm, where could we start, how about not funding the bureaucrat's in the EPA, Education Department, etc. Of course, the Dem's will try to make sure that Social Security checks don't go out, post offices close, etc. If Toomey's legislation passes, and the ceiling is not raised, the GOP needs to educate the public that it is the Administration, not the GOP, that is choosing to inflict the short-term pain. Of course, this will be hard given that the MSM will do everything to lay the blame at the feet of Bush and the GOP.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhy are these conversations entirely populated by liars and idiots?
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuseit is simply astounding that anyone takes financial advice from Timmy "Tax Cheat" Geithner ...
Maybe TurboTax doesn't have a good budgeting function for him to use ?
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abusegood call, never take financial advice from someone to stupid to use turbotax.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhat an intellectual dishonest argument from the Tax Cheat.
Laying off government employees won't negatively impact our credit rating. Reducing entitlements won't negatively impact our credit rating. Reducing corporate welfare and subsidies won't impact our credit. Reducing our defense expenditures won't impact our credit.
In fact, austerity measures would most likely be seen as a positive to bond markets.
He fallaciously and purposely equates reducing government expenditures as equivalent to a household defaulting on the household debts. When in fact Toomey's law would de the exact opposite, making defaulting on creditors impossible.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt is amazing that Turbo-Tax Timmy still has his job...what a bozo!
Of course his response is weak and nonsensical, did you expect anything less? The real reason Turbo-Timmy and the POTUS do not want to see this legislation pass is because it would hamstring their efforts to politicize the debt-ceiling issue. When the budget battle and debt-limit battle get into full swing, this Administration wants maximum flexibility to choose how they spend the limited monies that Congress will appropriate for them. That way, they can maximize their political advantage by causing the very crises that they are pre-blaming the GOP for causing.
It's the "never let a chance to manufacture a crisis go to waste" strategy...
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAlso, using the Tax Cheat and Treasury's arguments, you can't ever scale back government ever or the bond markets will get scared. Because he equates defaulting on TBills with laying off Sally at the DoE. How absurd.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe real analogy that Timmy should have used is that the a homeowner is focusing on paying down his mortgage while getting a loan to build a pool. That's more appropriate to what our government is doing.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseTimmy wants to make sure that his boss gets reelected. Wasn't there an article in NRO last week about how many people actually work for the Feds and State governments? Perhaps Timmy knows what the real number is and he knows that the only way to reduce the deficit is to cut spending (he is supposed to be pretty smart). If they cut spending, lots of useless projects and employees would be cut (unless Dems can kill SS payments and Post Offices). Unemployment will spike among those that depend upon the Govt. for paychecks. This won't be helpful to the Dems in 2012!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBabysitters, dog-walkers, body guards, pillow-fluffers, and belly-dancers, those are great analogies for all of the government employees. Any chance I could get a job fluffing pillows for the Park Service at Jimmy Carter's mansion?
PS, You forgot window washers and courtiers.
Mike in Dallas
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSen. Toomey should point out that one of the reasons we are in the mortgage mess is that people lied to bankers about their financial position. The result was a sudden, absolute, reckoning that nearly threw the entire country into a Depression. Now, America is at peril for the same inability to tell a simple truth: We're broke, don't lend us any money.
American's generally understand that this happened, though they would be more quick to blame their neighbor or those lyin' cheatin' bankers for it than themselves.
But, this is the same Administration that compared services and benefits under Obamacare favorably with the *Post Office*. I'm beginning to think they have their own Dept. of Bad Metaphors Dept.
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