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So Maybe it Was Global Freezing After All?

The Russians have been saying it for decades, and maybe it’s true. Here is a compelling roundup of the recent literature that suggests that.  It’s great reading for us “we do not live in a benevolent universe” types (I’m a longtime Velikovsky fan). If true, it’s kinda important.  I’m going to invest in cashmere futures …

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jim gilliece
   02/05/11 17:52

I simply cannot (will not) believe that man could significantly change the weather on a planet eight billion plus years old in only 250 years since the industrial revolution. So there.

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JasonT100
   02/05/11 19:20

Funny, Back in the late '70s, give or take, Newsweek ran a cover story on the coming global Ice Age. I gues Algore is just now catching up with the times. Buy my book! The Earth is going to end in 10, 9, 8.....

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Tad Curry
   02/05/11 21:15

I've been hearing about the pole shift for a while now...but what was that website you sent me to? Some crazy stuff over at salem-"news" dot com. And crazy use of commas, too. I'd like to speak to Terrence Aym's English teachers...

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Mister Snitch
   02/05/11 21:49

That's why it's "climate change" now. That way, no matter what happens, they get to be right.

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rasqual
   02/05/11 21:52
   02/05/11 22:14

Cool, global warming out, pole dancing in.

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George Karounos
   02/05/11 22:50

Some day Velikovsky will be recognised as one of the great minds of the 20th century. In the meantime, we have to deal with "scientists" who are bought and paid for by scheming politicians.
Gatekeepers in the lamestream media and gatekeepers in science you can't fool us any more......

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   02/05/11 23:07

"Must cut carbon emissions to reduce albedo effect driving global ice age..."
(clutches desperately at the levers of power from a new angle)

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Py Thagaryus
   02/05/11 23:33

I was there would be no math.

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   02/05/11 23:36

Deniers!!!

CO2 is a greenhouse gas! Add more gas and get more greenhouse. Even an innumerate and science-phobic public can understand that. Didn't you guys see the movies?

we will just have to put all of you into the gulags for re-education...

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Clavius
   02/06/11 00:46

Give me a break. This is just a roundup of apocalyptic junk.

If you read WattsUpWithThat.com or rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com you'd know that there is no uptick in damages due to anything in the climate and that total hurricane activity of the last several years is low.

It's almost as if The Corner is now pushing a 2012 hypothesis.

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D G
   02/06/11 02:15

We really should stop chuckling when those with, shall we say, a different perspective use euphemisms for "global warming".

The entire foundational premise of the man-caused global warming claim is that human activity is causing an increase in greenhouse gases, and increasing greenhouse gasses cause increase in the greenhouse effect, which must result in temperature increase.

Consequently, if greenhouse gases are increasing, and if the average global temperature cannot be proved to be increasing, then the basic premise must be false.

Regardless of variance, extreme values, outliers, or anything else, the AVERAGE global temperature can only be increasing, decreasing, or staying the same. If the earth, on average [there is a specific mathematical definition of that term, and it factors in extremes], is not getting warmer, then the premise must be false, no?

In other words, don't let them avoid the issue by changing terminology to phrases such as "climate change", etc.

According to the terms, accusations, assertions, and conclusions originally laid out, the issue really is "global warming" not "climate change".

Oh wait. I'm sory. Did I say "originally laid out". Oops, I guess we must reinterpret the original terminology to be relevant to newer thinking.

Not.

It may take a while, but I think it is observable, testable, falsifiable, etc. I think that is why the present PC trend to change the terminology, to avoid being held to account by the original claims.

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Big Al
   02/06/11 03:01

APS. Anthropogenic Polar Shift. We'd better do something about it.

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dmfmonster
   02/06/11 07:51

This is 'compelling' - if you are a moron.

Not ONE paper, or study, or researcher is mentioned by name. No references are given of any kind. So, you won't believe 10 000s of peer reviewed papers... but one guy writing off the top of his head - you are on board with that! Imagine if medicine was 'researched' in the same way.
Oh wait - it is i.e Jenny McCarthy.

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Ed Ahlsen-Girard
   02/06/11 07:54

From what I remember of Worlds in Colllision, the improbabilities Velikovskiy requires are extremely high: Venus having had a near-collision pass by the Earth but now having the least eccentric orbit of any planet comes most easily to mind.

The influence of the geomagnetic field on weather is also tough: it isn't coupled strongly to atmosphere. Which does not mean nothing serious would happen if it vanished. We'd see a lot more ionizing radiation much lower down, and that would not be good.

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   02/06/11 09:27

A competing narrative of weather pornography. If it dilutes anthropogenic GW, fine. We can surely afford to shift a little bit of research funding that way and would have to dismiss the ideologue in charge at NASA.

The optimist in me hopes that research to investigate the effects of a polar shift on weather would prevent modern versions of witch burning in the event of extreme weather. Well, never mind. There must be a witch burning.

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Interested Observer
   02/06/11 09:32

2010 tied for the warmest year ever recorded. This is the hottest decade ever recorded and the average temperature continues to rise. As it does, we'll continue to see abnormal weather, even areas with temperature dropping on average. But regardless of the cause... the globe is simply warming.

There is only one political party on the planet that continues to deny it. Conservatives around the world agree with those to their left.... except for the GOP.

But I guess everyone else in the world is wrong.

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tim maguire
   02/06/11 09:44

Color me skeptical. Yes, there have been some big storms recently, but there's nothing that special about them. They've happened before and they'll happen again. And yes, the magnetic poles do flip from time to time and it hasn't happened in a long time. But we're not talking about human time scales here. "About to flip" could mean any time in the next 10 or even 25 thousand years. And maybe it won't even be that soon.

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Jimmy
   02/06/11 11:43

Wait, is this a joke? A long time Velikovsky fan, really? So you buy it that Venus and Mars hopped out of their orbits one day to come pay us a visit?

Oh yeah, your weather article had some nice pictures. Written by a guy who has about a 7th grade understanding of Science, but nice pictures.

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   02/06/11 11:57

Cashmere? How about lead underwear? Maybe those people wearing tinfoil hats are onto something. I wonder how many carbon credits we will need to buy to prevent the poles from shifting.

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