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Wisconsin Governor Weakens State Unions

Wisconsin Reporter has the story:

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has introduced a budget repair proposal that would strip away nearly all collective bargaining rights for most of the state’s public employee unions.

Under the proposal, unions would only be allowed to collectively bargain over wage increases, which would be capped at the rate of inflation unless voters decided otherwise.

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   02/11/11 14:54

Let us hope this spreads to other states and the Federal Government.

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   02/11/11 15:01

It's about damned time.

Public sector workers shouldn't be union, period.

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   02/11/11 15:18

ditto Douglas.
They theoretically trade private sector wages for job security.
Then they inevitably come back and say the state must compete with private sector wages to get "good quality employees."

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   02/11/11 15:18

If he can get that law passed (even with Republican majorities it could be quite a fight), I will be the first to get on the Scott Walker for President bandwagon.

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   02/11/11 15:26

Good for Wisconsin. Of course, at the same time, idiot Pistole and Big Sis Napolitano are awarding unionization rights to the drones at TSA.

Think TSA's bad now? Just wait until you have NO ONE to complain to because the drones have union protection.

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   02/11/11 15:47

That's not all he's proposing. He's also proposing steep increases in pension fund contributions, health insurance contributions, making WI a right-to-work state, and even changing the rules to disallow multiple different types of state workers from collectively bargaining at all.

I love it.

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J
   02/11/11 16:16

Hope Michigan's governor follows right behind him.

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   02/11/11 17:48

Yes! This is conservative eroticism! Outlaw the unions and you'll begin to see how easy it is to cut the budget. I hope Congress does it too. If Congress outlaws public sector unions at the federal level the states will have more gusto to eliminate them at the state level.

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NHSteve
   02/11/11 18:29

First the Super Bowl, and now this!

In New Hampshire we have a Right to Work bill heading for the House floor. With super majorities in both State House and State Senate a John Lynch veto (expected) can be overturned quickly.

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   02/11/11 19:17

The Ohio Senate has a similar bill.

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TWS Garrison
   02/11/11 19:42

This will be meaningless grandstanding unless benefits and salaries are likewise capped.

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   02/11/11 22:27

@seanB: It's even worse than that. They write job descriptions that justify higher pay. Then, they demand free training benefits to meet their new, inflated, job descriptions. And, after they meet the new certification requirements, they demand a merit pay increase.

Federal Employees do this all the time. I had staff with bachelors degrees or community college degrees who could run circles around their highly educated, highly certified government counterparts.

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WALKERS WIFE
   02/12/11 12:01

You people really think that getting rid of the union is going to help the private sector? All its going to do is drive down private sector wages is the long run. The union give people average jobs with good benefits. People dont take the job because of its pay its because of the benefits. These jobs are open to anyone so why would you hate on unions when you could be part of one. All you people think is that if you don't have it no one should. If you think that breaking up the union is going to fix the state's budget deficit thats crazy. The budget will never recover when the govenor drives a state vehicle that costs the state $1600 a month. Thats 2/3rds of what most state employees take home in a month. Maybe the govenor shouldn't get full pention after serving just one term in office.

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   02/12/11 12:06

As a former California state employee, I am disturbed by the tendency of most conservatives to demonize public employees.

Of course there are examples of outrageous salaries and pensions for a handful of public employees. Public employees hate these cases, since we are taxpayers as well.

But conservatives should acquaint themselves with the facts before they irreparably harm civil service.

A study by University of Wisconsin researchers shows that, adjusted for education and age, state and local employees are paid less than their private sector counterparts, even when benefits are taken into account.

In California, the average pension paid to a public employee covered by Calpers is only $25,000 per year.

About 83% of Calpers pension costs are covered by employee contributions and investment earnings.

A recent law increases state employee contributions into their retirement system from 5 percent to 8-10% percent of pay. This means an immediate cut in state contributions of $200 million.

Finally, draconian cuts means that fewer top-notch people will be attracted to public service. The state already has a very difficult time hiring doctors and dentists for the state's prisons and mental hospitals.

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   02/12/11 12:34

This is going to be a really tough fight for Mr. Walker, the savings from this move are really just a drop in the bucket compared to the budget deficit for the next biennium.

It just feels like political theater to me...

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   02/13/11 09:55

Well, why is 8-10% wrong? That's in line with private sector 401k's. Less, in fact. And how many "holidays" do govt employees get? Plus paid vacation and sick time? Compared to the average small business owner? Here in Colorado Springs the traffic on MLK Day, Columbus Day, Veterans Day, etc is nonexistent...just the people who pay the taxes. (and giving back extra tax dollars paid to you is NOT the same as earning customers, making a profit, and then paying taxes)

My experience is with Fed employees, but this is not insignificant. What about pay for performance like the rest of us? Outside of government and heavily unionized industries the whole idea of a pension doesn't really exist anymore.

And for 3 years during a bad recession, there was NO recession in government. I got calls and emails all the time from friends in .gov trying to fill positions. Especially now that Obamacare is law. I wonder if that Peoples Republic of Madison study adjusted for the opportunity costs associated with public vs. private sector jobs. And finally, the ability to recruit and retain staff ought to be an incentive for the government to not do something...or at least to outsource it.

If the Feds and the States stuck to essential work (like your law enforcement example), they would have the money they need. Increasingly, people understand that outrageous public sector employment is not a spotty exception, but the rule in states like CA, IL, NY, NJ and elsewhere.

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sbroad
   02/13/11 14:53

I totally disagree with Walker...does anyone realize that he is messing also with our children and grandchildrens educations!!! Many of the teachers are union employees and they have already taken away so much from the education sector that before you know it there will be robots trying to teach your children....imagine that. So unless you have never had a union backing you you may want to reconsider what Walker is doing period...

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ScottK
   02/13/11 19:01

If we wish to compare the private sector to the public sector, let's do it the right way. Since wages, pensions, health care and other benefits are all part of a compensation package, let's take the total package of a school teacher with a college degree and stack it up against private sector workers with the same training. And when was the last time a public worker got profit sharing, or a bonus or even a turkey for thanksgiving? We are, once again trying to solve our fiscal woes on the backs of our essential teachers and other public employees.

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hope272727
   02/14/11 21:26

i was a union worker for many years. my pay was nominal. my husband worked at a so called fortune 500 private sector job.we have 2 children. we lived paycheck to paycheck.my husband's pay was ridiculously low. we rarely went out,took vacations or bought things. only when absolutely needed. but, it did put food on the table and health coverage for our family. we did this for almost 20 years. most union workers family's are the same. i know this because i worked with so many. to take anything away in this day and age with the cost of living so high will make many good families homeless. is this what we want?

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outboard
   02/15/11 18:56

Wisconsin taxpayers like myself have had enough. I can't believe the reaction of these spoiled self serving people almost 100% of the private sector funds there own retirement. Everyone I know has to pay a portion of their health care. Want to know how hard they work just try to renew your drivers licensee. The facts are we don't get a very good return on our investment. If I don't like the service what am I supposed to do move to Canada!. hooray for governor Walker.

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