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The Thugs Come Out in Wisconsin

Many of the letters from Wisconsin today have to do with violence: threats against Governor Walker and members of his administration, the increases in their security details, their worries about their spouses and children, and so on. I have heard from people closely connected to the threatened individuals. Their letters are hard to take.

The last few days have made quite clear that, if you cross the public-employee unions, you run risks: and not merely political risks (which are nothing).

I hope our national media will be covering Wisconsin, just a little. In the wake of the Tucson massacre, we heard from a lot of pundits that extremism and violence come from the right. (I again direct you to this page, which remembers some of that punditry.) I have a feeling that, if conservatives had staged a lunatic and thuggish rally like the one the public employees just staged in Wisconsin, it would be huge news all across the country: cover of Time, cover of Newsweek. (Do those magazines still exist?)

Sarah Palin would be called on to explain herself. David Gregory and other Sunday hosts would be warning of a sickness in the American soul — would be warning of the brownshirting of America. There is a sickness, all right.

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DAW
   02/16/11 18:00

Huh?I thought the thug was the one threatening citizens with the National Guard.

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john in green lake
   02/16/11 18:04

Wisconsin (along with Michigan) led the way on welfare reform. I recall there was much demagogueing and fear mongering then as well. A bit of rabelrousing was/is to be expected. Follow our lead.

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   02/16/11 18:04

Note to WI public employees...the general public doesn't like to see anyone treated unfairly.

That is why we are sick of paying for your lavish benefits. It's time to start contributing your fair share and join the real world.

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   02/16/11 18:45

All the more reason for Walker, Christie, and the others to take 'em out now...to use another euphamism that'll get us crucified on the news. Oops, there's another.

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   02/16/11 19:08

This may sound stupid, but what exactly is the purpose of a publice service employee's union? The Fraternal Order of the Police and the Firefighters' Union, I see. A clerk at the Department of Commerce, not so much. What exactly are the benefits these folks receive other than pushing greater and greater levels of government spending? For a cushy job with great benefits and little to no chance of getting fired, I just don't see it.

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America's blessings
   02/16/11 19:37

I'm a big Walker fan, and have been since last summer. (From a neighboring state, myself.) I hope and pray Walker has the strength of his convictions. He should:

1. Send in the National Guard NOW to clear the state capitol, clear the streets of Madison, and restore order.
2. Arrest every striking public employee, especially every public school teacher. Charge 'em and lock 'em up!
3. Fire every striking public employee!
4. Follow up the budget with a bill to criminalize union membership in Wisconsin by any public employee (and preferably every private employee, but perhaps that's best left til another day :) )

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   02/16/11 19:57

IMHO, if you're a Republican politician and the left isn't comparing you to Hitler, you're not doing your job.

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   02/16/11 20:02

Also, sounds like the Governor's media folks will have some excellent footage to put up on their website. Public Employees have not right to privacy about their work, their pay, or their "sick time". The Governor would be right to let local districts dock the pay of teachers at the rally.

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   02/16/11 20:31

What I am wondering right now is what the parents of Wisconsin are thinking about those they entrust their children for so many hours out of the week.

And invoking Godwin's Law as a rational argument? Are you serious? I mean, it doesn't even float online anymore.

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 Jay
   02/16/11 21:27

@ DAW - surely you're not suggesting our brave men and women of the National Guard are instruments of thuggery, are you? Is that what you're saying - that the Wisconsin National Guard are thugs? Are you sure you want to go on the record with that, DAW? or are you going to try to split the hair along the lines of supporting the troops but opposing the war they're trying to win, like a good left-winger? Here's a newsflash, my friend - you and your friends have sucked all the blood out of the turnip. Its dry.

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   02/16/11 22:27

This story should come as no surprise to anyone. This is by design, and will become the norm that will sweep the nation over the next few years up until the next election.

You will have those that work for government, unions, and a portion of entitlement recipients on one side, against those in the private sector and the majority of entitlements recipients on the other.

That is the bottom up portion of the "Top down, bottom up, inside out," strategy that is in play by President Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Van Jones, George Soros and his network, and all of the uber left.

I do not believe it will work in this country as it has in others however, but this is the strategy in play. I disagree with Glenn Beck on many details, but in this area he has it exactly right. Where we need to make the cuts is exactly where the streets will begin to be filled with crowds, then mobs, then rioters, and when the public asks for help in quelling the situation, Obama will overstep his role and attempt to enact the final phase of Top down, Bottom up, Inside out.

However Republicans control too many Governor's seats, state houses, and the House. It will fail, but it might get scary in the process for the faint of heart. Articles such as this will become more common as the year progresses.

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   02/16/11 22:33

Someone is perpetuating a falsehood. Gov Walker talked about the National Guard in the context of walk-outs by department of corrections employees. Sorry state of affairs when you have to what-if your prison guards having a blue flu.

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Thieves
   02/17/11 01:08

We need to drive a stake through these public employee vampires.

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Brian C.
   02/17/11 01:25

Like many others, my jaw dropped when I read this sentence in Paul Krugman's ill-informed "Climate of Hate" column after the Tucson murders: "Let's not make a false pretense of balance: it's coming, overwhelmingly, from the right."

I spent a brief period as a blogger for a West-Coast radio show host. The attacks on the host, myself, our guests, left me with a permanent impression of the Left side of the spectrum as the violent and threatening side. I never heard that kind of hate from the people who called in to rebut a left-side guest, or from the host himself. I left blogging for him about the time that Al Franken freaked out at a convention and nearly threatened to beat another guest with a chair. It's a disgrace that he's in office...

It occurs to me that all the hatemail the takshow host got, and other hosts, and TV pundits, and Republican politicians... well, that's hard evidence isn't it? And there's so much of it.

Why not gather all of these emails, letters, and if time, snippets of calls, into one repository/archive and call it: "Overwhelmingly on the Left." Or, perhaps we can just bundle them up and mail them to Krugman...

I'm so far out of the political media that I wouldn't know who to approach about the gathering process.

Then again, why bother? A two minute search in Democratic Underground, Indymedia's cache, Media Matters, or dailykos would turn up an archived lifetime of reading material as evidence of the sociopathic hatefulness on the left.

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Dennis Nicholls
   02/17/11 07:08

The school superintendent in Idaho, Tom Luna, has had his mother threatened and his car vandalized as a result of proposing "reforms" that the teacher's union dislikes.

External Link 

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   02/17/11 07:34

The point about the systemic injustice of public sector unionization has, surprisingly, been made. I think most people have awoken on this.

Most interesting is the pop-culture media's refusal to accept this. Their narrative still has it that the citizenry is the problem (teabaggers!) while the seat of virtue resides in the government class (selfless teachers!).

Remember the debates within the GOP last election about the wisdom of shunning the pop-culture media? Yeah, debate over: they are not on the side of the people. They are sycophants for the government class. Treat them as such; trust nothing they say; refuse to participate in their narrative.

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   02/17/11 07:48

"Someone is perpetuating a falsehood."

That's SOP for the left.

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FondyGuy
   02/17/11 08:04

@American's blessings:

Wow. Just, wow. Considering your name, I find your post all the more humorous. Using the National Guard to clear the streets? Lock up public employees for striking? This is still America, right? I didn't fall asleep in Fond du Lac and wake up in Bahrain, did I? What would the founders have to say on the subject...perhaps something along the lines of 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.' If only we had something like that enshrined in some US government document...

To classify the protests in Madison as 'lunatic' and 'thuggish' is outrageous and blatantly false, just as left-wing claims that the tea party gathering in Madison I was at last year were 'lunatic' and 'thuggish'. Like that rally last year, the protest was completely peaceful, replete with families bringing their kids out to see citizen activism in action.

The crazy left-wingers will get as much attention as the crazy right-wingers because they scream the loudest, but that does not negate the valid criticisms that public employees may have with this bill.

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   02/17/11 08:31

They should fire the 40% of the Madison Teachers that staged an organized sick out. Send the message that if you screw around in your professional capacity, you are done.

It is amazing to see Wisconsin take the lead on this though. It does make me sad that MN failed to elect a Republican Gov this year so we too could participate in the dismantling of the Public Union/Democrat scam/unholy partnership

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   02/17/11 08:59

I'd like to see evidence of Lunacy and Thuggish behavior. I have been in the State Capitol Building over the last three days and other than a couple of unreasonable comparisons of Mr. Walker to Mubarak or Hitler there has been very little lunacy...and no thuggish behavior.

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