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‘ObamneyCare’

Tim Pawlenty coins a new term on Fox News Sunday this morning:

UPDATE: Tim Pawlenty compared 2012 rival Mitt Romney’s Massachussets health care plan to President Obama’s health care plan today.

“President Obama said that he designed Obamacare after Romneycare, and basically made it Obamneycare,” Pawlenty said on Fox News Sunday. “We now have essentially the same features.  The President’s own words is that he patterned in large measure Obamacare after what happened in Massachusetts.”

“What I don’t understand is they both continue to defend it,” Pawlenty added.

Talking about his economic plan, which aims to jumpstart economic growth to 5 percent of GDP annually through a series of tax and spending cuts, Pawlenty emphasized how it can bring about an employment surge. “It would unleash economic growth and job growth in this country,” he said, adding that aimed to boost the “private economy” instead of the “government economy.”

Pawlenty also defended his 5 percent growth goal as realistic, saying it was “hogwash” that the U.S. couldn’t achieve that in the near future. He pointed to the near 5 percent growth during the Clinton administration, and economic growth that exceeded 5 percent during the Reagan administration.

Talking about the impact of his plan on the deficit, Pawlenty twice noted that he was proposing tax and spending cuts – not, as in the past, tax cuts paired with spending hikes. He said that if economic growth was at 4 percent or more, his plan would balance the budget over a decade.

Asked by Chris Wallace what kind of spending cuts he would make to offset the estimated $1 trillion loss in revenues his tax cuts would achieve, Pawlenty cited reforming entitlement programs. He advocated doling out Medicaid funds in block grants to the states and keeping Medicaid spending “as flat as possible going forward.” He called for raising the retirement age for Social Security eligibility, and denying wealthier Social Security recipients the cost-of-living increases.  On Medicare, he discussed savings by outcome-based provider payments, instead of per-procedure payments, and defended cuts in the program by pointing to the $500 billion Medicare cuts in Obamacare.

Pawlenty expressed confidence in his current position in the 2012 race, despite the fact that Herman Cain, who was also largely unknown at the beginning of the year, has shot ahead of him in the polls nationally and in Iowa.

“There’s going to be a lot of bouncing around in these polls,” Pawlenty said, noting that Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani had topped polls in 2007. “We like our momentum.”

When Wallace aired a clip of Bill O’Reilly dismissing Pawlenty as too “vanilla,” Pawlenty tried to laugh the accusation off.

“Is he playing the race card on me?” he asked of O’Reilly’s comment.

Pawlenty then said he wasn’t running for “comedian-in-chief or entertainer-in-chief.”

New on The Corner. . .


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   06/12/11 10:37

That is actually kind of funny. T-Paw and Mittens are going to have a cat fight. Grrr.

Don't worry, they are both declawed so no fear of actual blood being drawn.

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   06/12/11 10:58

Right Mr. Joe ... TPaw goes right at Romney and you still want to claim he's not a fighter ...

Maybe we'll all grow up and realize that a leader doesn't have to be a verbal bomb thrower or claim "Obama Lies" in every speech ...

It may play well on RedState but anyone who wants to get elected need independents and they hate red meat politicos ...

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   06/12/11 14:17

"...a leader doesn't have to be a verbal bomb thrower..."

This is why I like Pawlenty too. Well, part of the reason.

He can have great appeal to those folks in the middle.

We cannot, cannot win without those people.

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   06/12/11 11:05

Obamneycare...the "original sin" that will sink Romney's campaign. Fascinating what a few years difference can make. I've seen some commenters pointing out that NR and others supported Romney, despite Romneycare, in 2008. Yep. But then we got saddled with one of the most deeply immoral and frankly evil pieces of legislation in the history of this nation. A bill so obnoxious, so blatantly Anti-Constitutional (not just "un-"), so crassly passed against the will of the American people, and done so with a whiff of totalitarianism, that historians will be studying it for centuries asking "How did this happen in America?"

Mitt may have done what he thought was right for the people of MA at the time. But that decision has played out on the national stage in a way that makes him unelectable. Watching Obama make fun of Romney in the debates would be PAINFUL. "But Mitt, PPACA is based on YOUR law in MA!" (cue crowd laugh-track)

Times change. Mitt for Secretary of the Treasury. At least we're pretty sure he pays his taxes.

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Hauser
   06/12/11 11:13

How was the bill passed with a "whiff of totalitarianism"? Need I remind you that Democrats had a super-majority in the senate, a majority in the house, and the presidency? And that the original bill was passed without reconciliation (only modified via reconciliation)?

This is how legislation works -- you get legislation passed by winning elections, forming a consensus, and fighting for it, not by threatening to destroy the economy by capping the debt ceiling.

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   06/12/11 11:09

DorsaiGuy, I am teasing. Lighten up. I actually like Pawlenty (at least the Pawlenty I have been seeing lately). I still prefer Herman Cain because I know he is a conservative, but I recognize that Herman Cain has a very long shot at winning. If the choice came down to Pawlenty (provided he keeps on his conservative tract) I would be okay with that too.

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   06/12/11 11:27

I am sick of the clever political slogans and labels. What does ObamneyCare mean? Are the folks who use this term, including Pawlenty, making the claim that Mitt Romney supports Obamacare - even though he says he does not - and will prevent Republicans from repealing or modifying it? Given the performance I've seen from Tim Pawlenty thusfar, I think I'll start referring to him as PALEnty. The guy literally blends into the white wall behind him. One of the criticisms of John McCain was he lacked fire and passion, which seems to apply to Pawlenty as well. He's more enthusiastic about attacking Mitt Romney than he is about attacking Obama, a political strategy Republicans seem to favor. They eat their own and then wonder why voters aren't enthusiastic about GOP candidates. How I miss reason and common sense.

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   06/12/11 11:51

Jenna: "I am sick of the clever political slogans and labels. What does ObamneyCare mean?"

Jenna, allow me to answer that question, in Pawlenty's own words.

Pawlenty: "President Obama said that he designed Obamacare after Romneycare, and basically made it Obamneycare,” Pawlenty said on Fox News Sunday. “We now have essentially the same features. The President’s own words is that he patterned in large measure Obamacare after what happened in Massachusetts."

Is it clear now? Pawlenty is right, of course. Obama did, on more than one occassion, specifically refer to the Massachusetts health plan as a model. And Romney is continuing to stand by that failure. In my opinion, Pawlenty is adopting a smart strategy in tying the two louse programs together in the minds of voters.

Jenna: "He's more enthusiastic about attacking Mitt Romney than he is about attacking Obama..."

Now that's just silly. You've been paying attention, or at least I think you have based on your comments that I've read. Pawlenty has gone after Obama plenty, and after all, this is the *primary* season. You don't think the candidate's should go after each other? That's what a primary is for. I don't think anything Pawlenty said was unfair or out of bounds. One or two legitimate attacks at Romney's record doesn't qualify as "eating their own".

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   06/12/11 13:09

LivingTheHighLif:

Of course, I'm silly and you're a genius because you believe President Obama designed Obamacare after Romneycare and support Pawlenty's reliance on the President's claim to attack a political opponent. First, President Obama didn't design Obamacare; Nancy Pelosi and her liberal colleagues in Congress did. Second, do you know for a fact that the two pieces of legislation are similar? Have you read both and compared them, thereby verifying that what both Obama and Pawlenty said is true? Obamacare is almost 2500 pages long and many of those pages are filled with federal regulations that do not exist in Romneycare. Politicians are known to say things that aren't true for political gain, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if Romneycare and Obamacare have some significant differences that neither Obama nor Pawlenty bothered to mention.

I think it would be reasonable and fair to confirm that Romneycare and Obamacare are similar rather than assuming they are. Didn't you get the memo? Whenever Obama wants to defend one of his liberal policies, he invokes the name of a Republican. Usually it's Reagan or Bush, but for the purpose of promoting Obamacare, it was Romney. I don't know the answer to this question, but since you seem to know everything, perhaps you do. With a Democratic majority in the state legislature in Massachusetts at the time Romneycare was passed, was Romneycare veto-proof? If it was, what purpose would have been served for Romney to veto it and alienate the citizens of his state, as well as legislators he had to work with?

Many Americans, I'm sorry to say, are politically schizophrenic. They claim to want one thing, but vote for candidates who don't support what they want. That's how a far left liberal got to be President of a center-right country. Americans complain because Obama does what other liberals want him to do and not what the American people want him to do and then critize Romney for doing what the people of Massachusetts wanted him to do and not what conservatives wanted him to do. Americans need to make up their minds. Is it about party principles or the will of the people?

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   06/12/11 13:03

Jenna,

He's trying to be clever and tie Mitt to the political stone that is Obamacare. Will it work? I have no idea, but it does have the virtue of being true.

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   06/12/11 13:15

Is it true? Has anyone actually compared the two pieces of legislation and confirmed that they are, in fact, similar? As I pointed out to LivingTheHighLif, Obama did not design Obamacare, so how can he claim he designed it after the Massachusetts plan? One of the complaints during the Obamacare debate was that Obama wasn't actively involved, preferring to delegate the policy-making to Pelosi.

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   06/12/11 19:28

He should not attack Mitt Romney.

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Aaron
   06/12/11 11:33

Very impressive and very Presidential. Tim Pawlenty is the right man at the right time in the right place. He is exactly what America needs.

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   06/12/11 11:50

People keep making the mistake of thinking the Silent Assassin is too "Minnesota Nice." When we will all learn that all politicians from everywhere are ruthless illegitimi?

It's just that as a New Jerseyan running in New Jersey, you can take the kid gloves off from the start. As a Midwesterner running in the Midwest (or a Southerner in the South, etc.) a more genteel facade is called for.

But these people are politicians before anything else. When the stage shifted from AR to the nation, Clinton was able to set his Southern manners aside. Reagan didn't limit himself to the demeanor of a nice Midwesterner who had adopted laid-back California ways.

The GOP will have a fighter, even if he/she is a Pawlenty, Bachmann, Cain, or Paul.

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   06/12/11 11:50

One, of my biggest problem with the interview was the fact that it was done remotely. If you're running for president, and you have the opportunity to speak to 4 or 5 million Americans, it might be the prudent decision to take the hour to fly to DC and do the interview in person.

The answer about "outcome-based" medicare payments needs a lot more work. In fact, I have yet to hear anyone explain this idea in a compelling way. To me, this approach seems even more open to fraud, waste and abuse than our current system.

Finally, I generally like Chris Wallace, but sometimes he interrupts just for the sake of interruption. He asked Pawlenty two or three questions at one time (speaking specifically about Pawlenty's MN record), and then interrupts Pawlenty when he doesn't get a three or four sentence answer for three different questions.

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   06/12/11 12:17

Yeah, I'd say Pawlenty's chances were pretty much shot by appearing via a remote link instead of on set with Chrissy this morning. That is the type of critical mistake a candidate can't make in a presidential campaign. LOL.

I do look forward to see if Pawlenty is any better in tomorrow night's debate than he was the first one when several supposed back benchers out performed him.

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   06/12/11 13:40

Marco, I realize this, like so many other things, just goes entirely over your head.

There are several reasons that Presidents virtually never do remote interviews. One of those reasons has to do with optics - it just looks bad. If you aspire to be president, one of things you must demonstrate to an audience is that you can look presidential. It is very difficult to look presidential as you sit in "one-shot", looking head on into a camera as you struggle to hear a garbled, delayed question coming to you in an IFB.

Purely from an aesthetics standpoint, which Nixon proved in 1960 can be critical in an election, it just looks better when on-camera interviews are granted in-person and preferably in a non-studio setting.

This becomes even more important when you're competing for voters in a very crowded field, and where one bad on-camera interview has the potential to smother your candidacy in its crib - just ask Sarah Palin; almost three years later, she has yet to recover from the Couric and Gibson interviews.

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   06/12/11 15:24

Neither of the Palin interviews were done remotely.

Next.

Speaking of Palin, how has your review of her e-mails gone so far? LMAO.

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   06/12/11 15:36

"Neither of the Palin interviews were done remotely."

Well, her handlers could only take her so far. She still had to answer the questions for herself. That, of course, was her problem. She could have done those interviews directly from the Oval Office, and she still would have looked like an idiot.

Pawlenty, OTOH, acted presidential and sounded like he spoke Egnlish as his first language. This isn't unexpected coming from a guy who was a reasonably successful two-term governor. Unlike Palin's disastrous performance, it was the optics that were his problem.

BTW, you might want to look into medication for that nervous laughter you always seem to display. Professional help could do wonders for all that anxiety. Just sayin'.

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   06/12/11 16:43

Mr. Wilson, have you ever seen me defend either of those two interviews--ever? I don't dispute for a second that those appearances allowed the media to build a case questioning Palin's intellectual prowess. And you're right, for people that either rely on the MSM for "news" or simply don't like Palin for one reason or another, the lady has been pegged with reputation that she will have to overcome is she decides to run for POTUS.

However, I've watched enough of Palin elsewhere, including the VP acceptance speech, the VP debate, her Alaska SOS address, her recent talks and Q & A's in Long Island, India, and Israel, and a host of other media opportunities where she's proven to be more than capable of discussing critical issues in a detailed manner. More importantly, Palin has a solid belief system and she's on the RIGHT SIDE of the major issues of the day.

Additionally, I've studied her record as governor and understand why she was chosen as McCain's VP candidate and had such high approval ratings prior to the leftist media setting its sights on destroying her. Her record is out there to be reviewed and analyzed for all to see. Maybe you'll be able to pull away from the e-mail dump and review other information that tells the true story of her governorship.

What I find despicable is people like you and the ruling class punditry on the right that were either sucked into the media narrative without studying Palin's record or absolutely refuse to do so because your prefer firing off personal attacks are simply more fun.

Lastly, I think it's you that needs the meds--I hear they're needed for Palin Derangement Syndrome.

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