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National Wasteful Spending

President Obama’s remarks at a White House press conference Wednesday were riddled with false choices and phony equivalence. These are the same scare tactics Democrats have been using all year in response to every legitimate effort to reign in federal spending. For example: “We can’t get to the $4 trillion in savings that we need by just cutting the 12 percent of the budget that pays for things like medical research and education funding and food inspectors and the National Weather Service.”

Ah yes, the National Weather Service, an agency that consumes roughly $1 billion in taxpayer funds every year. Obviously, every penny of that goes toward essential programs, right? Here’s a few examples of the kinds of programs you have been paying for at the NWS:

  • A $220,000 grant to the Center for Environment and Development for the Arab Region to “educate the Arab region on climate change.” 
  • A $50,000 grant to the Ocean Conservancy for the purpose of “enhancing the capacity to inform effective management decisions” at the East End Marine Park in St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands.
  • A $15,000 grant to the Oregon TsuTube channel to create tsunamai awareness clips on YouTube.
  • A $193,000 grant to the International Environmental Data Rescue Organization for “hydrometeorological services” in Kenya, Malawi, Mozambique, Niger, Senegal, Tanzania, Zambia, Dominican Republic, Chile, and Uruguay.
  • A $300 annual gym membership reimbursement program for all NWS employees, a benefit that few private sector workers enjoy, at a total cost of up to $1.3 million in taxpayer dollars per year.

In addition, the Obama administration has abandoned its effort to cuts costs and streamline the NWS by closing and consolidating facilities, an action hailed as a victory by the union representing NWS workers.

So just be thankful that the president is looking out for your interests.

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   06/30/11 14:35

“We can’t get to the $4 trillion in savings that we need by just cutting the 12 percent of the budget that pays for things like medical research and education funding and food inspectors and the National Weather Service.”

Translation:

"We can't spread the ideology of socialism without these agencies."

Yes, I know, the Squeamish would dissent. But then, our government long-arms itself half-way around the globe to “educate the Arab region on climate change.”

Just what autocratic despots need: a lesson on how to fool people into surrendering more of their autonomy and liberty.

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   06/30/11 14:44

So, you've identified 1.5 million out of a 1 billion dollar budget as being 'wasteful' (and an argument can be made that some of the items on the list aren't wasteful in the slightest); less than 1/2 of 1% of their budget.

Color me unimpressed with your logic here, that this represents some sort of emergency or calamity. Surely you could have done a little better than this before making a post about how Obama is wrong...

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   06/30/11 15:06

so you admit Obama is wrong ...

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   06/30/11 15:09

Whatever do you mean? He said this:

"“We can’t get to the $4 trillion in savings that we need by just cutting the 12 percent of the budget that pays for things like medical research and education funding and food inspectors and the National Weather Service.”"

That's entirely correct, and pointing out that tiny percentages of the budget go to things that one may not agree with doesn't change that. So, no; I don't agree with what you said here.

But it wasn't really intended as a serious comment, though, right?

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   06/30/11 20:41

Oh Fishy, you dare talk about being serious? Hahahahahah....

Here's serious. Dead serious. Cut 20%. Of every department, program, and agency. Right now. And re-set the "baseline" to that reduced amount. Right now.

How's that for a FIRST step? Why won't you and your president do that? Because you LIKE those big bloaty agencies and all the power they have. You revel in them! And you could care less about how much they spend.

Thomas Edison once memorably said "Tell people what you want them to do, but don't tell them how to do it. They will amaze you with their creativity."

SO....a serious president would just call a Cabinet meeting of all his agency heads and say, "Beginning next week, every one of your departments will be cut in spending by 20%. I don't need the congress to do this. I'm the head of the Executive, and this is an Executive decision as the "CEO" of this government. Now I know there's lots of waste and nonsense out there, but that's not my problem. That's your problem. You can cut the fluff and padding and b.s. and have the thanks of the American people and keep your jobs. You can cut the union and government worker perks that are bigger than the private sector and have the howls of 12% of the population be drowned OUT by the cheers of the rest. Or you can fail, and get fired, and I'll find somebody who can do the job instead of you. Your choice. I don't really care. We're going on a diet starting NOW. 20% ladies and gents. Get it done. Meeting adjourned."

But it won't happen, will it, Fish? Because...why? Because widows and orphans would suffer and weather reports would stop? No...because you don't WANT to stop spending. THAT is the "serious" truth about you and Obama. You LIKE It this way.

And THAT is the "serious" truth.

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Bruce Berger
   06/30/11 21:19

But he told us during the campaign he was going to go through the budget line-by-line to eliminate wasteful spending. I feel so violated, knowing now that he never meant that.

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   06/30/11 15:35

Your point is what? We can't cut everything so we should cut nothing?

Every billion counts.

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   06/30/11 15:35

Your point is what? We can't cut everything so we should cut nothing?

Every billion counts.

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   06/30/11 15:48

My point is, Obama is correct here; we cannot close the deficit gap through spending cuts alone. It simply isn't going to happen.

SO, those who are SERIOUS about getting our fiscal books in order, should favor a combination of cuts and tax increases. The question is: why is the modern GOP so dead against getting our fiscal house in order? It's difficult for me to understand how the leadership can offer the rhetoric they do about responsibility on one hand, while ignoring the steps it would take to actually do what they say they want to do, on the other.

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 jag
   06/30/11 17:08

TheFish,

Let's see, individuals, corporations, municipalities and states routinely cut spending when there is a revenue shortfall.

Sure, some states raise taxes but many don't and they soldier on.

Its a myth that the federal government can't cut spending. You can reduce all federal employee pay 10%, eliminate defined benefit pension and reduce extravagant benefits as well.

Anyone who's ever been in business knows ANY budget can get cut 10% without a dramatic impact on productivity.

How much could the post office save by eliminating Saturday deliveries alone? How many other, senseless, similar savings opportunities are out there in trillion dollar federal budgets? You'll never find out unless people's feet are held to the fire and, currently, there's no incentive for any bureaucrats to save an iota of money anywhere.

PBS? NPR? They don't need a dime do they? Head Start? A vast waste of money documented by multiple studies.

The lists of waste is absurd. Tell department heads to cut. Eliminate funding for "absolutely free scooters" under medicaid that are constantly promoted.

Heck, just cut SOMETHING useless before you come and say NOTHING can be done.

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   06/30/11 17:22

>"My point is, Obama is correct here; we cannot close the deficit gap through spending cuts alone. It simply isn't going to happen."

You point is wrong. Obviously we CAN close the budget gap by spending cuts alone. It may not be politically popular, but that's a different matter.

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   06/30/11 17:34

It's not politically UNPOPULAR, it's politically IMPOSSIBLE. So why are you pretending that it's even worth discussion? It isn't.

I repeat again: Obama was correct. You're not going to balance the budget by cutting spending alone. It isn't going to happen. No Republican in office would support it happening. So maybe folks should get serious and start talking about what KIND of tax increases are necessary.

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   06/30/11 14:59

Is weather forecasting a function that cannot be performed by the private sector? Explain.

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   06/30/11 15:52

Actually, weather forecasting IS done by the private sector. (My first career was in weather - and I worked for a private-sector weather forecasting business. I'm no longer in weather as a profession, but am a trained - and unpaid - weather spotter.)

The main argument for a public-sector presence in weather is a public protection one. It actually makes sense to have one entity that is charged with issuing weather watches and warnings based on a single standard for such events. It's a system that works well currently.

That said, I don't know what issuing a tornado warning in Topeka has to do with providing aid or services in Africa. Seems to me that's a little out of the purview of the NWS's mission. But then, the government's gotten into a lot of things that aren't really its business, hasn't it?

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   06/30/11 20:34

My brother is a pilot for a major airline. They do their own weather and it is far superior and more adapted to their needs than the govt. version. So yes, it could and is being done privately just fine.

Here's a simple proof beyond that---The Weather Channel isn't a govt. agency or a public broadcaster. Sure, they use some govt. data, but there's no reason they couldn't generate it themselves, nor that the major news media couldn't have a "pool" for this the same way they do for other coverage. And as for disaster warnings...that's how they get out--via the media, not just the NWS.

It is clearly a doable private function.

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   06/30/11 21:44

Where to start...

First, the local airport here (a major one) does statistics every quarter and compares forecasts from NWS, CWSU (the aviation portion of NWS), the major airline here that does its own forecasts, and the basic computer model. Quarter after quarter CWSU comes in first, we come in second, the basic model and the airline are always third or last. In fact, the CWSU averages a better forecast by an hour. This translates into millions of dollars every month that the airlines are saved. Your brother may be a great pilot, but the statistics do not agree with him.

Second, who do you propose will pay for radars? Do you think that a rural areas of the US is going to be able to afford the cost of a radar? The communications line alone is in the tens of thousand every year. Some of the radar parts are in excess of $100,000.

Third, who will pay for the satellites?

Fourth, the media warnings come from the NWS. The main reason is to have one voice alerting the public. How will it look if six different stations issue six different warnings?

Fifth, who will provide support to the Coast Guard, the National Guard, local firefighters, and various search and rescue organizations?

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   07/01/11 10:56

I propose that the private sector which USES the forecasts and NEEDS the forecasts will indeed pay for them and the associated infrastructure. It's no different than the privatization of prisons, trash pickup, or countless other governmental functions that have been found to operate better, cheaper, and more responsively to their "customers" than the bloated government wasters they replaced.

Secondly, if your stats are accurate, why do you suppose those airlines actually bother to do weather for themselves? Clearly, they're biased in favor of the agencies who want them as reasons to continue to soak the public. Airlines operate on razor thin margins, and a huge part of their expense is, as you surely know, fuel. The issue of weather is hugely impactful on fuel expenditure for the simple reason that bucking a headwind or a storm is more fuel-intensive than avoiding them and going with the flow where possible. Among the things my expert pilot brother has told me about this is that his airline updates its weather info more frequently than the NWS does and transmits directly via a private system to the cockpit and to various ground stations who also, because weather can speed up or delay flight arrivals, need the data. This makes everything from baggage handling to safety more effective.

Now if you think they'd do all that if the NWS info would do it better....you have more than facts to check. Add logic and common sense.

But you see, your post actually shows a mindset problem even more than a fact or common sense one. Everytime I hear anyone like you throw up their virtual hands and say "But who will pay for it?!?!?!?!?" when speaking of a government function, it shows one thing: The very idea that MAYBE there is another way that's better, cheaper, and more effective has never even been seriously entertained by them/you.

Open your eyes, check the facts outside of your preconceived big-government mindset, and maybe, just maybe, you'll see that there is indeed another way to go (and one without the government pension/perks/ higher-than-private-sector-salaries and the rest of the unaffordable baggage that got us into this mess.)

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   07/01/11 14:43

The meteorologists who work for airlines offer a service that we do not. They are able to do specific routing forecasts for each of the planes, alert the pilots about any storms along their flight path, and provide direct access for the airline when any questions arise about the weather. We do a different forecast for just the airport that is used by both the commercial industry and private pilots. The other function provided by the CWSU is to be the direct link to the FAA to provide an unbiased view of the weather and when conditions will be changing. That way one airline is not able to dictate things such as ground delay programs or when flight rates increase or decrease. Without that contact, the largest airline at each hub would get a huge unfair advantage over the little guys.

A meteorologist from Southwest Airlines came to my old office a few years ago to talk about how they used our information. They take our forecasts and discussions as the starting point and then provide extra detail to their pilots that we could not. Think of it as we are providing the foundation and they are building the home.

By the way, on a side note, in his talk he spoke about how just a small increase in forecast accuracy would save each airline millions of dollars. Now that jet fuel is even more expensive, I'm sure that his numbers are much larger.

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   07/01/11 10:56

Most rural stations own their own radars. If there is value in satellites, then private agencies can pool their resources to buy one.

The idea that only govt can do any of these functions is ludicrous.

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   06/30/11 15:05

actually 12% of the $3.8 trillion dollar spending for 2011 equals $456 billion per year ...

so over 10 years it would save $4.56 trillion ... which I believe is actually greater than the $4 trillion he quotes ...

even when he tries to sound smart he's an idiot ...

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