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Pawlenty Criticizes Bachmann’s Record

On Meet the Press this morning, former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty took a swipe at fellow presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R., Minn.).

“I like Congresswoman Bachmann. I’ve campaigned for her. I respect her. But her record of accomplishment in Congress is non-existent,” he said. “We’re not looking for folks who just have a speech capability.”

Bachmann is a major threat to Pawlenty in Iowa, where a Des Moines Register poll puts his support at only 6 percent — and Bachmann’s at 22 percent.

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   07/10/11 11:14

Shucks. He coulda' been her V.P.

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   07/10/11 11:15

He's right, of course. TPaw isn't our answer though. Bachmann lacks the accomplishments we need in our presidential candidate.

Rick Perry has tons of accomplishments, he's a great speaker, and he has a REAL record of running a state that is in superb economic shape. He's the anti-Obama. There is no better candidate. Rick Perry is the one guy in the race that I actually feel like I could be FOR.

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   07/10/11 11:26

While I think the comparisons to GWB will be fast & furious (and probably unsubstantiated) and his comments about succession will be more than problematic, I think Perry is very close to being the "last great hope" candidate.

I think Romney might be able to beat Obama, but only because people will be voting against Obama rather than for Romney, and even if Romney would win, I'm not sure conservatives would benefit, ultimately.

Perry, as you suggest, would actually inspire people to vote for him. In a field of less than stellar candidates, Perry seems like a reasonably competent and reasonably conservative choice, and the only candidate that possesses those two qualities together - conservative & competent.

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   07/10/11 11:55

I agree, all of those negatives will hurt Perry a bit, but every candidate has negatives. I think his biggest negative is that he sounds like Bush in the way he speaks. That said, we have had enough lecturing from our professor president, and enough failure under Obama to overcome him sounding like Bush. I think the people are ready for someone who does what he says, believes what he says, and loves the country. If you listen to Perry, he fits that bill.

Romney, I think would have the easiest time beating Obama. That said, Romney becomes less palatable to me by the day. The whole global warming thing turns me off in such a huge way. It tells me that Romney would be an inside the beltway style leader and a Bush style spender. I'm just less and less confident the guy isn't the next moderate president we elect that destroys the party, like Bush did (look how that's turned out for us, incandescent bulbs are banned, the NLRB is destroying our society/economy, and oh gee that Obamacare thing).

Bottom line: I think if Perry gets in, he wins the nomination, and he easily beats Obama. When you compare their economic philosophy and the results of their policies, it will be clear to anyone with an open mind which path we should follow.

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   07/10/11 18:48

"incandescent bulbs are banned"

Incandescent bulbs are not banned.

You know this is a fib, right?

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   07/10/11 12:15

TPaw is working hard to be part of Team Sarah. This morning's interview was a great step in that direction. Knocking on Bachmann by touting executive experience - Palin did it about two months ago.

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   07/10/11 11:29

I find a lot of irony in Pawlenty saying this. Think about it: The guy in the White House that he'll have to beat got HIS nomination in 2008 through the sole accomplishment of...delivering speeches. So apparently, a lot of folks ARE looking for someone who gives a good speech, Tim.

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   07/10/11 11:50

Since the age of television, great speakers generally do very well in national elections. Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton, Obama (yes, Obama gave some great speeches in that 2008 election) were all easily the best public speaker in the years they ran. Had he not been assassinated in '68, I suspect Bobby Kennedy might have been on that list as well.

Even Ross Perot, the most successful 3rd-Party candidate in the modern era, gave a compelling, albeit somewhat quirky, speech.

Style over substance has been a problem in American politics for a long time. But, it became even more pronounced in the age of electronic media.

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   07/10/11 11:32

Pawlenty's a non-factor and almost certainly will stay that way until he drops out after NH. But Perry might also sense that Bachmann is heading for a tumble. Especially if she keeps signing more asinine pledges about pictures of naked ladies, the gay gene, the horribleness of no-fault divorce, and the black family's swell time under slavery.

If Perry gets in and doesn't screw up in the debates, he immediately becomes a much more real threat to Bachmann than Pawlenty ever was.

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   07/10/11 11:43

Casey, give it a rest, wilya? The anti-slavery platform went out in (oh) 1864 or so.

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   07/10/11 11:47

Tell Michele to give it a rest. She just signed a pledge that started with a note on how the black family did better under slavery. Hey, I'm only reporting.

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   07/10/11 13:20

No, you are not "only reporting". I have not read the "pledge" of which you speak, and I didn't attend an ivy school. But I intuitively know that there is a world of difference between "having a swell time" & "did better under slavery"(than they are doing now).

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   07/10/11 14:46

You clearly are not reporting, at least not on any facts, and don't seem to have read the pledge yourself.

These are the bullet points of the actual pledge:
marital fidelity,
respect for marital bonds of others,
fidelity to the constitution and support for constitutionalist judges,
opposition to redefining marriage,
recognition of the evidence of the value of traditional marriage,
support for reform of laws and programs which harm marriage,
advocacy of the DOMA and support of a like constitutional ammendment,
protection of women and children from exploitation [including but not limited to pornography and abortion],
enactment of safeguards for military families, wives and children,
rejection of Sharia or other anti-woman code, recognition of the beneficial social value of children,
commitment to trim the public debts burden on families and, finally,
defense of the first amendment.

Not unsurprisingly it was a lot easier to find uninformed commentary on the pledge than to find the actual pledge itself.

As to the comments regarding blacks and slavery, this is what the document says [outside the body of the pledge]:
"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President."

You are free to provide evidence that it is not so. That would be what we refer to as "reporting."

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   07/10/11 11:32

He's really good at trashing people who aren't there...Obamneycare anyone? Third stringer.

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   07/10/11 11:47

I like Perry, I like Bachmann, I like Pawlenty. I think we can all agree that anyone being considered for the nomination would be superior to Obama. Having said that, Perry should either go or get off the pot pretty soon. He's in serious danger of being "Thompsonized"

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   07/10/11 12:01

Thompson was no Perry. Thompson never had a chance. He was a Bush guy, in a time that Bush's name was mud. Thompson was DOA.

Perry is nothing like that. He's a current governor, of one of the best run states in the country. His economic record is superb. His resume is current, and is impossible to ignore. That, and he's a great speaker, which Thompson was not. Also, we had a real establishment candidate in John McCain who was going to be REALLY tough to beat. That and Thompson isn't a great speaker like Perry.

Ronald Reagan announced he was running in November of 1979. I don't think Perry needs to sweat it. Let the other candidates beat on each other, beat on Obama. Let the press do their worst on them, and then Perry can step in where he belongs and run away with this thing.

I agree, all of the candidates would be better than Obama, but that's hardly an endorsement. I actually want Perry to win the nomination. I can't say the same about any of the other candidates.

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   07/10/11 11:48

Casey Abell, you made your position on Bachmann and the pledge more than clear on the Bachmann thread. You're of course free to reiterate your position as many times as you please. But it is one thing to argue that the pledge could be read in the absurd ways you are suggesting here -- it is a self-defeating exercise if you wish Republicans well, but you can make the argument; it is quite another thing to repeat those tendentious and fanciful interpretations of the pledge as if they are true. The post was all about how ABC lied. Why would you want to join ABC?

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   07/10/11 11:52

You think other media outlets aren't going to follow along ABC's lead on that silly pledge? Anyway, if Bachmann keeps making these unforced errors, she's practically inviting Perry into the race as the rival to Romney on the right.

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   07/10/11 12:09

Of course they are going to follow along, and they will find "errors" in everything Bachmann does. What does that have to do with your doing their dirty work for them? As I said, you're free, naturally, to argue that the pledge is "silly" and whatnot. That isn't what you did here. You stated that Bachmann signed a pledge that says slavery was good for black people. You may have meant merely to mock, but instead you repeated a lie.

Bachmann doesn't have to "invite" Perry to join in. Perry's getting in and I imagine you and I will be united in hoping he succeeds. But would he sign the pledge? Who knows? I don't, and you don't either. I'm actually thinking of getting behind a Perry/Bachmann ticket.

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   07/10/11 12:07

I think signing onto these pledges, all of them, is STUPID! Let me say it now. We should need our leaders to sign a pledge to believe that they'll do what they say.

If we nominate a guy like Perry, we don't have to worry about pledges.

What we need is someone who will negotiate with Democrats in the best possible way, win as much as is possible, and the rest will be good. We'll never get 100% of what we want, so we just need someone who believes what we do to get us the best possible deal.

If Bachmann takes all of the pledges, and she wins the presidency, she's either going to have to break them, or she will get NOTHING done, and win no battles at all. That's why pledges are foolishness in the extreme. Just look at all of the promises that Obama made, that he never had any hope of keeping, even with having control of the entire government. That has hurt him tremendously.

Pledges are a fools game.

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