I’ve received the following statement from Charles G. Koch in response to Warren Buffett’s New York Times op-ed, which called on government to “Stop Coddling the Super-Rich.” To my knowledge, you’re reading it here first:
“Much of what the government spends money on does more harm than good; this is particularly true over the past several years with the massive uncontrolled increase in government spending. I believe my business and non-profit investments are much more beneficial to societal well-being than sending more money to Washington. — Charles G. Koch, Chairman and CEO, Koch Industries, Inc.
I would only add, as others already have, that if Buffett and his “mega-rich” friends don’t think private philanthropy will do as much good as public spending, they are free to send as much money to the Treasury as they like.
Political games. Buffett and his “mega-rich” friends know that even if they gave all their money, it would barely make a dent in the debt.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIf Buffett donated it all he could cover a couple weeks of current deficit spending. Of course he could only do that once and there aren't very many Warren Buffetts.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSponsored political games. The top one hundredth of 1 percent earns five percent of the nation's income whereas the bottom 20% earns 3.5% of the nation's income.
Notice that I said Income, not wealth and I said top .01%. That's one in 10,000.
How much do you propose taxing the bottom 20% who already pay 1.9% of the nation's taxes despite earning only 3.5% of the income in order to keep the Koch's tax rate at the second lowest in the last century after only the period leading into the great depression?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseShort and to the point by Koch. Neat.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt's not the philanthropy of Buffett and Koch that best serves society, it's their profit making work that best serves society. Bill Gates did far more to improve society through Microsoft than he has through his philanthropic work (which is not to denigrate his philanthropy).
The left has a government-centric view of the world. They only value the services provided by government and ignore the services provided by the private sector. But even if that is one's view, it is still better to leave the money in Buffett's hands. Buffett will invest that money and it will grow, thereby increasing his tax payments in future years. The rich getting richer is a good thing -- even for those with a government-centric view.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAs much as I agree with you in theory, in case of Microsoft, it may well have retarded progress in long run. SoftWare is ludicrous, enabling huge tentacles to wrap around the throat of so many better. Free markets obviously work, so in long-run, I'm convinced Microsoft is toast! But, we may all be dead by then!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseExcept that the Bros. Koch didn't start anything. Like so many Republican money men they simply inherited all their wealth. The idle rich don't really benefit society in anyway. They become even more useless and entitled than the official aristocracy. Andrew Carnegie knew that, too bad Fred Koch didn't.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI agree with LAD. Wealth creation coupled with freedom is the greatest boon to improving the human condition.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseRe: "Wealth creation coupled with freedom is the greatest boon to improving the human condition."
Not True!!!!
If we tilt all the way left, then we end up with everybody employed, but nothing to eat. If we tilt all the way to the right, then we end up with corporate operating efficiency going up even as the unemployment rate heads toward 100%.
A healthy economy balances our national dollars between consumption and capital investment so that we keep the buying habit alive and also invest in increasingly efficient production.
If you move too much money out of the consumption cycle and into the capital cycle, then you have more and more dollars chasing fewer and fewer ideas, so the marginal utility of each new investment goes toward zero. Since the demand is shrinking, product runs will shrink as well, so that the negative utility of having fewer customers can very easily outweigh the positive utility of whatever the capital investment was in the first place. Even worse, the consumption cycle shrinks, which causes a deflationary debt spiral.
This is what happened in 1928-1932 following 10 years of tea-party economics brought in by Warren Harding. Shrinkage of the middle class was hidden by a stock market and real-estate boom in the 20's just like it was in the 80's. In 1928 and 2010, the wealth gap between the rich and poor hit the same record levels, so we need to be careful not to have another Hoover Austerity 1930 moment.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI thought intelligent Republicans supported jacking up taxes in the name of balancing the budget and serving the debt. Shouldn't you be agreeing with Buffet?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI am not a Republican, but I would agree that we should tax the 50% who are currently paying no taxes...
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseGeorge Soros just released a statement saying that he is donating to his fellow Bundeswehr veterans in Brazil.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIs it the "Does George Soros Have To Choke A B----?" Fund, by any chance?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThank you, Mr. Koch.
I'm tired of these wealthy people telling the government to tax US more - heck, if the wealthy lefties want to pay more, send a check to pay down the debt.
These wealthy people may not miss a few hundred, thousands or tens of thousands, but the rest of us will!
Note, "Doorbell" from Powerlineblog. (External Link
) I'm sick and tired of other people either taking my money or telling me what to do with it.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseRe: "heck, if the wealthy lefties want to pay more, send a check to pay down the debt." This is disingenuous and insulting. Tell me you have never said to yourself "people are destroying the grass by cutting across here" and then cut across because everyone else is, so it wouldn't do any good if just you played the good citizen.
It is better to live in a healthy economy than in one that is crippled by imbalances. I think that if you ask most people whether they would rather live in a first world country with education, public security, laws, and infrastructure, or a third world country with the top 10% buying education and infrastructure for themselves and turning their back on the rest, but with full Ron Paul-style freedom (in other words freedom to retain your education and infrastructure money and spend it only on yourself), then I would suggest that most modern Americans would rather give up a small amount of liberty in order to live in a first world country.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseJust remembered: I looked up the total value of America's billionaires (Buffet included). Their total net worth in 2009 (from Forbes) would pay down one year's deficit (that is the shortfall of federal revenues minus federal appropriations (expenses for you accounting majors)in a given year. And then all their money is gone.
Where do the spending feds find the money to make up for the now $16,000,000,000,000 (trillion) debt (long term debt)?
This particular security code is bizarre!
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"I believe my business and non-profit investments are much more beneficial to societal well-being than sending more money to Washington."
Lets see Koch business investments have done little more than pollute the environment, and their "non-profit investments" all seem to be self-interested donations almost exclusively given to political puppets, who guard their vast inherited wealth, and enable their continued polluting. So it's hard to see any societal benefit to the Koch brothers activity. Oh but wait, they did give their already filthy rich prep school a huge donation. Finally, every student can now afford their own polo pony.
Unlike Buffet, the Bros. Koch inherited everything they have from their father Fred, a clever, mentally unstable, bigot who financed those Tea Party forerunners the John Birch Society. Isn't part of the WFB lore that he supposedly expelled those racist crackpots in JBS from the conservative movement? Well I guess they bought their way back in.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt's perfectly valid to point out that folks like Buffett can pay more any time they want but I think that misses an important point; they're not making a public policy argument. They're not even making a macroeconomic argument. We know that taxing these people at 100% doesn't come close to solving the problem so it's nothing more than cheap grace.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseInteresting trivia note: I'm reading David Horowitz's autobiography, Radical Son. In the early '70s, when he was still affiliated with radical left-wing mag Ramparts, he worked with a left-wing New Yorker who is also something-or-other on Wall Street. The other guy has a very wealthy friend whom he hits up for a donation to the magazine: Warren Buffett. Horowitz, not knowing who Buffett is, appreciates the donation but later realizes that $500 from Buffett was actually sorta chintzy, even in 1973 dollars.
Apparently Buffett's left-leaning is not new.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseDidn't Buffett donate much of his wealth to Bill Gates' charitable trust? Why not just give it to government to disperse if he feels that government spends money so wisely?
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