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Talkin’ Bout My Generation

This is an old New York Times story (end of August) that somehow came across the Twitter transom today, but it’s pitch-perfect Times. It answers one of the pressing questions of middle America, and dare I say of all 99-percenters: How fares the 26-year-old Harvard grad who couldn’t get a publishing job with her English lit degree? Well, friends, it’s pretty dire:

At one point, she had applied for an editorial-assistant job at Gourmet magazine. Less than two weeks later, Condé Nast shut down that 68- year-old magazine. “So much for that job application,” said Ms. Klein, now 26.

One night she bumped into a friend, who asked her to join a punk rock band, Titus Andronicus, as a guitarist. Once, that might have been considered professional suicide. But weighed against a dreary day job, music suddenly held considerable appeal. So last spring, she sublet her room in the Fort Greene section of Brooklyn and toured the country in an old Chevy minivan.

“I’m fulfilling my artistic goals,” Ms. Klein said.

Meet the members of what might be called Generation Limbo: highly educated 20-somethings, whose careers are stuck in neutral, coping with dead-end jobs and listless prospects.

I’m not going to give Ms. Klein the same crap I gave JD Samson, because Klein is not really complaining here. Nor should she be. Titus Andronicus is not a garage outfit. They’re signed to a major independent label (XL recordings), have appeared on Late Night (albeit the ersatz, Jimmy Fallon version) and play in big venues and major music festivals. It doesn’t sound like Klein is a millionaire, but my guess is she isn’t living on off-brand ramen either.

What’s more telling is that she would be offered as emblematic of a generation — “Generation Limbo” as the author puts it — along with the likes of Stephanie Morales, a 23-year-old Dartmouth grad who wanted a job in “the arts” but has been forced to work as a paralegal, and who claims that half a dozen of her Ivy-League friends are on food stamps:

Some of Ms. Morales’s classmates have found themselves on welfare. “You don’t expect someone who just spent four years in Ivy League schools to be on food stamps,” said Ms. Morales, who estimates that a half-dozen of her friends are on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. A few are even helping younger graduates figure out how to apply. “We are passing on these traditions on how to work in the adult world as working poor,” Ms. Morales said.

But the modal 20-something in America is not an Ivy-League educated bassist living on food stamps in Brooklyn. Not now, not yet. Yet if by its selection of my generation’s mascots, the Times is again betraying its tendency to be preoccupied with the travails of a bi-coastal socioeconomic sliver that Whit Stillman would call “the urban, haute bourgeoisie“, they’re not alone. Indeed, that sort of narrative has probably been played for laughs and rhetorical points a easily by those of us the Right, during the “occupation” of Wall Street. It’s easy to laugh at vegan casseroles and long-haired ironists, at downward-twinkles and the kid who thinks you should pay his college tuition because he thinks you should pay his college tuition. It is every conservative’s God-given right to (rhetorically) punch hippies, and far be it from me to tell anybody to stop — indeed, I’ve done my share of it. But while many of my fellow 20-somethings — including many of those in Zuccotti Park — are likely over-educated and underemployed, naive and entitled, it shouldn’t be forgotten that most of us did not go to Ivy League schools on borrowed dimes. That most of us did not major in Gender Studies. That by my estimate, somewhere between 88 and 96 percent of us* are gainfully employed. And that a similarly large proportion of us thus don’t have the time or inclination to Occupy Wall Street. The kids are still all right. Most of us, anyway. 

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*The unemployment rate for college grads over 25 is 4.2 percent, and I quickly summed the unemployment numbers for the 20-24 and 24-29 demos and figured out that the unemployment rate for 20-somethings is about 12.2 percent.

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Edgar Friendly
   10/14/11 16:05

A woman went to an elder monk and asked for advice. She told him her son would do nothing but lie on the couch watch TV and play video games all day while eating junk food.
The monk laughed at her. He told her to throw the TV and games out the window and take away the junk food.
He told her to make him do chores and earn any "play time" and teach him to be respectful of others. It was up to her to raise him properly and she had not done it, nor provided a good example by letting him become this way.

Basically, if a child is a brat and grows up spoiled and demanding everything from everyone, he wasn't raised properly. And only the correct teaching of parents can prevent a child from being indoctrinated by teachers/government/marxists.

Just saying....

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KareninPA
   10/14/11 16:05

You seem to think that Ivy-league graduates on food stamps are merely unfortunate. I have to disagree: they are a disgrace. If you have no money for a while, for whatever reason, just be poor. Scrimp, do without, and take whatever job you can get. (We did it.) What has become of shame in this country?

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J Ryan
   10/14/11 16:22

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Perhaps some of these Ivy league gender poets should have majored in math or science? Unfortunately for the would-be artistes, "boring" (i.e. requires discipline and effort) and/or difficult majors are the only ones likely to pay off.

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Vaquero45
   10/14/11 16:26

So what did Ms. Morales study at Dartmouth (for $50,000 a year) that would not make her realize that she had to get a job eventually? And just what did she figure she'd do in "the arts"? What did she think she'd live on - fairy dust and unicorn wind? I'm VERY tired of hearing about these lazy slugs who put themselves a hundred grand in the hole for a degree that only qualifies them for cleaning bird feces out of cuckoo clocks. They all need to be slapped - or, more appropriately, spanked.

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Leo Glunk
   10/14/11 16:25

If food stamps arent their bag I think the Marines are still hiring.

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   10/14/11 21:28

It's actually not easy to get into the Marines, particularly the physical requirements. Look at some these protestors, I doubt they could run a half mile without fainting, and could they even do 10 push-ups?? Recent drug use is also a disqualifier.

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   10/14/11 16:31

The authors -- both at the Times and of this blog post -- too easily accept the term "overeducated".

I sincerely doubt that the folks profiled here are substantially more educated than most other college graduates. A B.A. in English from an Ivy? This counts as overeducated? What a low bar!

If you get a degree in a field that isn't presently hiring, it doesn't mean you've received EXCESSIVE education. It means you simply chose a field that isn't presently (or, at least, easily) marketable.

It's a comforting fiction to say "I'm too educated" rather than "I chose poorly" or "I didn't plan ahead well" or "I may need to adapt to the exigencies of the marketplace in the real world and engage in a line of work I didn't originally plan on".

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Den
   10/15/11 22:25

If anything, they're undereducated. Bad for the ego, but more accurate. They have lots of knowledge in their heads, but no education.

If I had any say, I'd make a summer course before the start of the fresshman year in any arts curriculum a study of career possibilities of ALL curricula, engineering, business, arts, etc. That must be passed before they are finally admitted to the arts department.

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   10/14/11 16:39

It took me 10 years after college to finally find my niche.

That's life.

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   10/14/11 16:44

Don't forget the abstract anarchist poetry! External Link 

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   10/14/11 16:55

"Jack be Nimble, Jack be Quick. Jack jump over the limbo stick."

Perhaps that should be Jackie, so's to avoid charges of sexism.

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Flambeaux
   10/14/11 17:00

At 34, I'm slightly older than your target age cohorts, Mr. Foster.

But I managed to leverage a drama degree from a no-name school into nearly 10 years in corporate finance. Two years ago, I leveraged that experience into a new career.

I'm back to making what I was 5 years ago but it's enough (barely) to support my family.

About 4 years ago, one of my brothers completed his degree in Classics and Philosophy from a sizeable school in the mid-Atlantic. He spent two years trying to find satisfying work. Failing in this endeavor, he enlisted in the Navy.

If I have a point to this comment it's that creativity and a willingness to actually work can make all the difference between being angry (and jobless)-enough to protest and being employed even in this economy.

And that, from my study of history, seems to be a constant.

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   10/14/11 18:26

That's essentially how I made my career.

A series of less than satisfying jobs that led to falling ass-backwards into my current (and, hopefully, last!) field.

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   10/15/11 02:11

Don't get me started. With my liberal arts degree, hm, all I know how to do is talk to customers and find out how much they are willing to pay for your product. Silly me, I have no sellable skills!

In my poor, sorry, state university program, they expected us to think creatively, too much of an expectation for these poor waifs I suppose.

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   10/14/11 17:03

I must comment again! Nathan Schneider in the Nation has an unintentionally funny paean to Occupy Everywhere here: External Link 

My favorite part is below (GA is the movement's General Assembly):

"There were debates about tactics, fundraising, food and wrenching ones about how to build the GA’s website."

Wrenching? Wrenching!

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   10/15/11 02:08

Maybe he meant "wenching". That's the only good reason I can think of to go to the protest.

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   10/14/11 17:10

So you're 27 years old, and you are are $90K in the hole after finishing your Doctorate thesis on the relationship between the Yangshao culture's pictograms and the oracle bone script of the Shang Dynasty, when you come to find out that at best, you'll earn $30K a year as an assistant manager at Barnes and Nobles, and that personal bankruptcy does not dismiss your student loan.

And then, in your naiveté, you stand side-by-side with those College professors who sold you on the idea of the obscure course of study and the worthless degree, to protest your prospective employers, who are being abused by the radical liberal, Socialist administration you and those professors voted into office, and you never once look at any one of those tenured leeches to ask them how they can sleep at night knowing that they have presided over the destruction of the American dream.

So, forget all that boys and girls, go out and ask NOT what you can do for your country, but for what your country can take from others, and give to you.

The American Dream is no longer a goal, it is now an entitlement.

Farewell, Columbia.

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None
   10/16/11 20:26

If you think Obama is a socialist, you obviously need to spend some more time in school yourself.

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   10/14/11 17:35

“You don’t expect someone who just spent four years in Ivy League schools to be on food stamps,”

OK, I'm a hiring manager and my expectations are simple.

What do you know how to do?

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   10/15/11 02:02

Paralegal is a great career. That rock band job is a once in a lifetime opportunity that I would drop everything and take right now. What are these people expecting???

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