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Cain

We just got back home after several days of no power. Catching up on what’s been happening, I can’t understand why our side is giving the Politico/Cain story any sunlight. 

I’m not a Cain guy. There is a lot to like about him, and I could easily see myself voting for him against President Obama — which is the same thing I say about several of the GOP candidates, none of whom has won me over yet. But this sorry Politico episode seems to me to have little to do with Cain and everything to do with how content we are to live in the Left’s world.

This controversy is the perfect storm of (a) media hypocrisy: given the bar set by Clinton/Edwards/Ted Kennedy/et al., the worst possible case of what Cain is accused of — if you draw every conceivable negative inference against him — doesn’t come close to being a story, yet the lefty media energetically dig into Cain after having buried the exponentially worse Democrat scandals; (b) the special bull’s-eye fitted on black conservatives: their example of self-reliance and independent thinking makes them such a threat to the “social justice” narrative that, when it comes to destroying them, anything goes; (c) sexual harassment: a social-engineering caprice the arbitrary standards of which can turn routine — not admirable, often unsavory, but entirely unremarkable — human behavior into legal ruin; and (d) the litigious nanny state: with human life hyper-regulated and legal fees hyper-expensive, ordinary human behavior becomes grist for extortionate lawsuits that parties settle on the cheap because the cost of fighting is prohibitive — and later, these parties end up sounding like jackasses if asked about the suits, at least in part because, if you say something strong in your defense, you risk violating the standard reciprocal confidentiality provision and thus reopening the whole expensive, embarrassing business.  

I’m not sure how conflicting Cain’s statements about this nonsense are, and I frankly don’t care. Cain’s made a number of conflicting statements on matters of substance (e.g., negotiating with terrorists, abortion, the propriety of killing al-Qaeda’s Anwar al-Awlaki, etc.). We’ve got abundant basis to probe how consistent he is, how deep his convictions are, and what all that says about his suitability — just like we ought to be probing conflicting positions taken by other candidates. But on the Politico sensation-out-of-nothing report, the real story is how confident the Left is that it has set the terms of (and the traps in) our public debate. Unfortunately, that confidence seems well placed.

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   11/01/11 13:42

That McCarthy would compare the allegations against Cain to the allegations against Clinton is more than a little off.

In Clinton's case, there was consent. If the two separate allegations against Cain are true, there was no consent.

For most people, maybe not Mr. McCarthy, consent makes a big difference.

In terms of politics, it hardly matters. I don't see Cain as a serious Presidential candidate. Given the extreme comments he has already made and the utter lack of seriousness of his 9-9-9 tax plan, he would have zero chance in the general. It would be funny to see him run in the general on a campaign that blames the unemployed for not having jobs though. Cain has already provided enough rope to hang himself.

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   11/01/11 13:47

Nobody cares what you think about our nominee. As long as they have a pulse, they will be your dude BHO.

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   11/01/11 14:25

I am so glad you put up that correction. My brain was starting to hurt.

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   11/01/11 13:48

"In Clinton's case, there was consent. "

Sure there was. Ask Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey.

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   11/01/11 13:51

RE: "In Clinton's case, there was consent."

Perhaps your "S" is stuck, because "case" should be plural. If you actually believe that Clinton was met with consent in every case, you're a lemming. If you don't, you're a hack liar.

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   11/01/11 14:00

They can't help themselves. Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderick were certainly NOT with "consent."

When they couldn't continue that game of endless whack-a-mole and discredit every single woman who came forward, they abandoned the "consent" nonsense in favor of, "it's about sex," or "it's a private matter." They must think our memories are short.

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   11/01/11 14:27

Well, your point about plural accusations, if accepted, would also be a basis for assuming the complaints against Herman Cain are true.

I think, that all other things being equal, multiple accusations does increase the probability of wrong doing. But I still think you need more evidence before reaching final conclusions in such cases.

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   11/01/11 13:58

David is nothing if not consistent. There is no lie he will not tell as long as it servers to protect the interests of those who promise to give him more other people's money.

As to the interaction being consensual, tell that to Kathleen Willey.

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   11/01/11 14:04

When Bill Clinton groped Kathleen Willey, there was consent?

When Bill Clinton exposed himself to Paula Jones, there was consent?

When Bill Clinton beat and raped Juanita Broderick, there was consent?

It's funny to watch the selective memory of liberals when they try to whitewash the endless sexual brutality of Democratic politicians - Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd making "waitress sandwiches" ring any bells, much less Teddy drowning Mary Jo Kopechne? - by trying to focus on the rare instances when women willing submitted to being receptacles for Dem lust.

And by "funny" I mean totally pathetic.

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   11/01/11 14:09

I am not going to relitigate the accusations against Clinton here. What we know for sure has to do with Monica Lewinsky, and in that case, there was consent.

Notice the important wording. IF the accusations against Cain are TRUE.

The true part is sort of important. We know that Clinton had a relationship with Monica Lewinsky. I don't know anything about the other accusations

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 Rook
   11/01/11 14:14

Your ignorance is no excuse.

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   11/01/11 14:18
 Rook
   11/01/11 14:24

For the lameness of your contributions. You really need to educate yourself on Bill Clinton's deplorable sexual pathology before you start trying to make comparisons that would put Cain in a bad light.

The truth is, after Bill Clinton, it's pretty hard to get worked up about most sex scandals. And, in all honesty, this one with Cain seems pretty amorphous so far.

But, in any event, liberals who defended everything Bill Clinton did don't have a leg to stand on. If you don't blink at rape, you can't get worked up about lesser things.

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   11/01/11 14:32

Why do I have to educate myself on these accusations? I can think of much better uses of my time.

I am not going to defend Clinton here. Just like I am not going to defend Cain. I simply do not know about these other accusations.

When McCarthy mentioned Clinton, I thought of Monica Lewinsky, not these other accusations.

McCarthy also mentioned Edwards. So, we can see that the overall point about equating consent to non-consent is valid, even if you assume (which I do not) that Clinton engaged in some sort of behavior that was not consented.

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   11/02/11 09:55

You really don't understand the left's conception of sexual harassment at all. It isn't primarily about consent, but about inverse power relationships in the workplace. The left threw everything they believe in overboard for the sake of keeping the big oaf in power.That's the ultimate in hypocrisy.

By the same token, Cain would have been subjected to all manner of imbecilic left-wing prattle about being anti-woman simply for being a Republican, yet they'll express more outrage over his purported "anti-woman" conduct than they ever would over, say, "pro-woman" Al Gore mauling a masseuse in his hotel room.

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   11/01/11 14:18

You don't even know how to backtrack effectively. What kind of liberal are you?

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 Rook
   11/01/11 14:13

If you think there was consent in Bill Clinton's case(s), you must have a very short memory or be a college student (or OWS person). Not only is Clinton probably guilty of sexual assault, but rape as well. The media may refuse to discuss the Juanita Broderick story, but it was quite credible (Lisa Meyers was the one who reported it) and Bill Clinton to this day has never denied it to my knowledge. Someday an honest biography of the man will have to acknowledge his very deep and disturbing sexual pathology.

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