Here’s a poignant vignette of the Occupy movement from Occupy Vancouver, where a woman in her twenties was found dead in her tent on Saturday night:
In a strange twist of events, the band D.O.A. began performing a live outdoor concert about 20 metres away while police set up crime scene tape around the now-collapsed tent.
Indeed. In a culture that values the attitudinal pose above humdrum reality, D.O.A. means the “transgressive” band with “edgy” titles (Last Scream Of The Missing Neighbors) rather than the actual corpse being carted off to the morgue a few yards away.
In my book, I quote a famous line from Gibbon on the late Roman Empire:
The form was still the same, but the animating health and vigor were fled.
Alas, that goes for counter-cultural imperialism, too. At OWS the form is still the same – the third-of-a-century old fashions, the half-century-old songs – in the same way that at Franz Joseph’s last military ceremonial in Vienna in the autumn of 1913 the form was still the same – the imperial coach and its six white Lippizaners, the Polish cuirassiers, the Hungarian hussars in leopard skin. But, in Zuccotti Park as in the Schwarzenbergplatz, in Oakland as in Rome, the animating health and vigor are fled.
When “youthful idealism” is an implausible euphemism for mopey solipsistic passivity (“I am a first semester college student, I have no idea where I will be in 4-5 years“), it’s hardly surprising it degenerates into party time for crack dealers, granny-preying thugs, statutory rapists, and transgenderphobic looters. What else is there? The slogans, the drum circles, the D.O.A. gig, and the endorsements of opportunist celebs like the Rev Jackson and Michael Moore is like a Starbucks compilation CD of revolutionary chic.
Hey, this just means they're achieving their goals of raising awareness and getting people to talk!
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThis entire stream of consciousness posting is just weird.
Of course, if you can't make an actual coherent argument, something like this is what I would expect. We already know that Mr. Steyn has resorted to asserting that the OWS movement supports "the destruction of civilized society." So, it is not like he is capable of making a real argument.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"if you can't make an actual coherent argument"
You know, most of us feel the same about you.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSeriously - I'm a little amazed troll had the cojones to type that.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt's worth noting that David here has accused Republicans of a "total nihilistic embrace of total irresponsibility."
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By his own logic, David's provocative rhetoric is evidence that he is incapable of making a real argument.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhat I love about comments like this: you just string together a bunch of words and, without actually putting forth an argument justifying your point, you declare that that which you're commenting on is wrong/idiotic/incoherent/immoral, not because you've proved such, but because you said so.
That this sort of 'argument' passes for savvy interlocution in this day and age is another sad example in support of Steyn's bete noire: the slow-motion destruction of the West, which, in its convulsions, allows the fools and ignorati to take a sledgehammer to its splintering foundations (in this case, substituting cogent rebuttal w/ mindless screed) with near-impunity.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIf these people cared about truth, or coherence, they would not say & do what they say & do. Personally, I think the objective of these trolls is obviously to dissipate our intellectual energies arguing with them to no effect. They already know they are evil so what's the point explaining it to them. They are not evil because they are stupid; they are stupid because they are evil first. See Romans 1 re the reprobate mind cast away by God to do all these things which are not convenient.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI'm not really offended by the lawless, chaotic and makeshift nature of the protests. If anything, I find it fascinating and interesting - like a pioneer town or something. But the violence and insecurity strike me as artifacts of the anti-capitalist spirit of the event, not its lawlessness.
If there were more of a market spin to it then you'd see vendors selling blankets, tents, ground space, food, and even security. But these people are not there to generate revenues or produce income, so I gather that any such business ventures would have trouble getting off the ground (especially with sometime availability of free substitutes). So instead it's a gigantic cluster of selfish people mooching off of self-styled idealists, nobody with clear lines and no real market in the things people need.
It seems like they'd do better to get some office space to continue the cause. But rather than just everybody sitting around performing absurdist theater, they would only use the office space for people with the time and skills to really get the movement going. The others could go out and get jobs in the actual economy, if they can find them, and then contribute some of that money to the movement to pay for the full time workers. And to ensure financial accountability, the group could register as a non-profit corporation with the state and apply for tax exemption from the IRS (which requires financial disclosures). Normal people might call the end result a "lobbying organization" or a "political party."
This assumes that they actually want some sort of formal effect on the political process, of course. It seems much more likely that OWS is more about how the occupiers feel about themselves than about effecting any measurable change on politics or the economy.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseActually, your argument does not make sense. If the protesters were in office buildings doing as you suggest, they would get no media attention.
There is a place for political parties. And there is a place for physical protests. All eggs do not belong in one basket.
National Review deserves credit for covering these protests, even to bash them in a distorted and unfair way. It makes it clear to everyone that they are important.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNothing says "Important" like raping your own protestors, stealing from one another and your donors, assaulting elderly women and having dead bodies show up. IMPORTANT!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOh yes, because disorder and crime don't occur anywhere else in America, except at the protests.
And of course, anyone who supports the protests also supports disorder and crime.
I love the "logic" of conservatives. It actually is hilarious.
The more outrageous your arguments, the more amusing I find you.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseCan you say: "Straw man"?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSo glad I can amuse you. Trust me, you provide a ton of amusement around here for so many people.
Funny, we didn't see crime like this at the Tea Party protests. You'd think a burgeoning political movement would want to control rape and violence among its members. Unless it's a feature, rather than a bug.
And yes, I think you do support disorder and crime, because it's a means to an end for you. That's the only way we'll move towards socialism - certainly not through the ballot box.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt is my understanding that these people are actually pressuring crime victims to shut up and "let it be handled internally".
The problem of course is that you can't rely on the protection of all that you style yourself the enemy of.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"Oh yes, because disorder and crime don't occur anywhere else in America, except at the protests.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAnd of course, anyone who supports the protests also supports disorder and crime.
I love the "logic" of conservatives. It actually is hilarious.
The more outrageous your arguments, the more amusing I find you."
And you fail to notice how textbook fallacious your argument is, being full of strawmen, projection, and appeals to amusement?
Jesus said, "by their fruit ye shall know them."
Your evil tree bears evil fruit, my friend. There is no way you will be able to escape that truth.
Media attention will fade, and eventually nothing will remain from all this hoopla. However, if the OWS crowd created a permanent organization as described above, there might be some legacy to the movement. As it stands, I'd predict this flash in the pan protest movement has about run its course.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseActually, I think Steyn is on to something at the very heart of our age, an age that values style over substance and posturing over conviction. It can't help but veer toward sad, pathetic parody of bygone times, an endless loop stuck on "revolutionary chic".
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBack when the tea party was having rallies that people actually attended or paid attention to, NRO and conservatives railed against anyone who attempted to attribute the handful of racist and other unsavory acts of a handful to the entire movement. Mr. Steyn et al. attempt the same cheap tricks with OWS.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThere *weren't* any acts like that, Moriarty, that's why. The only racists and such in attendance were all proved to be Demo moles.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseGWB and others commenting on my original post: You've missed the point entirely. Regardless of the political bent of any large group, it's intellectually dishonest to attribute the acts of a minority to the entire group unless the group specifically approves of such acts.
I understand you're all angry that people are paying attention to OWS, and no doubt you think that attention springs solely from media bias, but you're going to have to deal with it. The views of you, Mr. Steyn and like-minded on this issue don't amount to a hill of beans, any more than my view does with respect to tea party rallies.
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