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A Thought Experiment from the Bizarro-Earth GOP Primary

I think the major political strengths and weaknesses of Romney and Gingrich more or less cancel out: Romney signed a state mandate into law, Gingrich once supported a federal mandate; Romney’s a solid debater who won’t make major gaffes, Gingrich is a superb debater whose own cleverness can be his worst enemy; Gingrich has a questionable personal morality but appears to have a principled vision for the country, Romney appears to have an impeccable personal morality but a questionable and perhaps unprincipled vision for the country; Gingrich helped assemble the first Republican Congressional majority in a generation but was forced out amid scandal, Romney ran a successful business and a deep-blue state but his success has pegged him as both a ‘fat cat’ and a ‘RINO’; Romney is perceived as the favorite son of the political ‘establishment’, Gingrich as consummate Washington insider. And so on.

I mention this in the context of my ongoing attempt to figure out the Newt Surge — why it happened, whether it will last, whether it’s like the Perry and Cain surges or something altogether different.

So my thought experiment is this: Imagine that Newt had spent the last six years running for president; fundraising, (re)building (burnt) bridges inside the party, establishing robust campaign infrastructure in key states, using the media to stay on the average American’s radar in an anodyne way. Imagine that, due to a combination of political acuity, dogged determination, and the GOP’s “it’s your turn next” tendency, Newt had emerged by the summer of 2011 as the ‘inevitable’ nominee. Now imagine Mitt Romney had left the governorship of Massachusetts for the private sector, and spent the last six years leveraging his political connections to pad out his net worth — not as a lobbyist, mind you, but as a managerial expert. Imagine he jumped into the 2012 race fairly early, but failed to make a major impact.

All other things being equal, does the Republican base spend these past few months looking for an anti-Newt? After the fizzling of the Bachmann, Perry, and Cain insurgencies, does Romney, being the last to find a chair when the music stops, take on this mantle and surge in the polls?

If you think the answer is ‘yes, Romney would enjoy such a surge’, that tells you there’s something a little irrational about the state of the primary, doesn’t it? If your answer is ‘no, Romney wouldn’t get any traction’ then how do you explain the fact that in the real world he does have such traction, and has maintained it for months, against all comers? Even if you think the hypothetical itself is flawed in some way or another, where you think it goes wrong is informative. If you think hypothetical-Newt could not have done what I described above, because he’d come out of his long battle with Bill Clinton a much-diminished villain in the eyes of many Americans, and besides had made too many enemies inside the Party, then again, how do you explain his actual surge? If you think hypothetical-Gingrich as frontrunner would not have inspired the yearning for an “anti-Newt” from the base, show me how hypothetical-Gingrich is any less the status quo-insider than actual-Romney.  If you think hypothetical-Romney couldn’t have done as I described above, that if he took that path he’d have turned into Jon Huntsman, how do you explain why actual-Romney is polling in the high 20s and Huntsman at the margin of error?

It’s all very baffling to me.

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Rubicon
   11/30/11 11:24

It's not baffling to me.

One word: Mormonism.

Three words: Bias against Mormonism.

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Vince Baiamonte
   12/01/11 02:06

Amen to that. Amazing that the "family values" evangelicals will support a snake like Newt just to avoid voting for a Mormon. Obama 2012!

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   11/30/11 11:24

My answer would be "no".

We don't have to guess so much since Mitt already played the "I'm not the insider-next-in-line-RINO" role in 2008.

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   11/30/11 11:25

"Romney signed a state mandate into law, Gingrich once supported a federal mandate"

These don't cancel each other out and that is the difference between Romney and Gingrich. That, and that Gingrich admits that he was wrong and Romney doesn't.

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   11/30/11 11:31

Just as candidates get better over time, voters get better too. You, as a member of the chattering class, obsess over this stuff. You are a professional at opining about candidates. The rest of us are ham and eggers. We dabble in it every four years, maybe every eight years if our guy is the incumbent. It takes us a while to get back in the groove.

That's part of what happens here. Bachmann is a good example. She was unknown, made a nice first impression, warranting a rise in the polls. That put her on TV and radio more and the voters got a closer look. Ooops! Maybe she needs to ripen a little more. Next it was Perry and the same story.

It is not an accident that we are now left with the two most polished politicians at the top. They are good at this and we, the voters, have gotten better at spotting it.

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TruthTower
   11/30/11 11:31

"Gingrich has a questionable personal morality but appears to have a principled vision for the country, Romney appears to have an impeccable personal morality but a questionable and perhaps unprincipled vision for the country"
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That was surely a joke, wasn't it? How is Gingrich's vision for the country principled and Romney's not? I never saw Romney lobbying for Freddie Mac. I never saw Romney sitting on a couch with Nancy Pelosi flacking for global warming. I never heard Romney attack Paul Ryan's budget. I never saw Romney slither around Washington like a K street lowlife peddling influence for a fast buck.
Rest assured, if Gingrich is the nominee, Obama will be President for the next 4 years.

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   11/30/11 11:32

I think this is just emblematic of the fractured mentality of the party right now. We seem divided between those who view ignorance as a virtue (see the rise of Herman Cain) and those who think we should basically determine the nominee by administering an IQ test (Gingrich and Romney supporters). We've got two completely opposite extremes at play here, and this has resulted in the bizarro primary you're talking about.

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   11/30/11 11:33

"... there’s something a little irrational about the state of the primary..."

Wrong. There's a LOT irrational about the state of the primary.

I'll just say this; in a Newt vs. Romney showdown, I'll vote for Romney every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I like Newt, but I don't trust him, based on his track record his management skills are very poor, and I believe he would quickly alienate the GOP in Congress.

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   11/30/11 18:29

"I believe he would quickly alienate the GOP in Congress." I think you're right - Gingrich is undoubtedly the candidate least able to work with a REPUBLICAN majority in Congress - if I were Paul Ryan, I'd barely be on speaking terms with him. Gingrich wants to be Prime Minister more than President, and enforce his ideas through rigid party discipline as if we had a parliamentary system. Romney is more likely to work with the idea-men in Congress, and we actually have some of these now (Ryan, Rubio, Rand Paul, etc.).

Advantage: Romney.

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   11/30/11 11:37

To have appeal with the base, a candidate needs to be able to repeat the Party's conventional wisdom with a straight face -- regardless of how crazy the CW has become.

One way to successfully repeat the CW is simply to be ignorant enough to believe it! That explains Bachmann, Cain, and Perry (and possibly GW Bush, in the past).

Another is to be sufficiently craven to have the ability to say virtually anything. That's Newt.

Excellent acting skills and a worldview formed in the 1940's can also help -- e.g., Ronald Reagan.

Romney is least effective when he tries to present himself as an arch-conservative. He's just not! He's too smart to successfully portray wholehearted commitment to the God, guns, and gays agenda. He maintains steady support in the moderate, thinking wing of the party -- traditional business Republicans -- but it's painfully obvious top the base that he's simply not one of them.

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   11/30/11 11:52

A person like this, I'd like to buy for what he's worth and sell for what he thinks he's worth.

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   11/30/11 18:36

Now, that's good business! He probably thought John Anderson was a better candidate than Ronald Reagan in 1980. And it's not worth the time to try to straighten these "moderate" (i.e. moderately progressive) Republicans out. Suffice it to say it looks like the party is not in the mood to let them lead us all to defeat once again.

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   11/30/11 12:15

"Excellent acting skills and a worldview formed in the 1940's can also help -- e.g., Ronald Reagan."

I agree with much of what you say, but I would highlight that Reagan - while (probably) genuinely believing what you describe as the "Guns, God & Gays" strategy, also came across as a pragmatists, particularly in that 1980 debate that sealed his victory.

Reagan seemed like a sounded like a rational and reasonable man in that debate. He also sounded very well-studied. If you read that debate, it reads like prepared text rather than extemporaneous answers to unknown questions; that's how prepared Reagan was for that debate. Compare that debate transcript with the answers given by Cain or Perry. It's eye-opening.

I think there are plenty of people left in America who aren't reflexively hostile to "Guns, Gods & Gays" (although, the "Gays" element has been seriously undercut in the last two decades by pop-culture), but there seems to be no shortage of conservative firebrands that take that message and create from it, a kind of rhetoric that far exceeds what Regan ever articulated. It's that, in my opinion, that turns a lot of people off.

To your point, Bachmann, Perry, Santorum & Cain say a lot of things that the middle 1/3rd of America finds absolutely nutty. Reagan, who believed (almost) the exact same things, possessed the ability to convey that same conservative narrative in a way that not only didn't alienate that middle third, but appealed to the middle third. That's a kind of magic that no candidate possesses today, sadly.

Reagan (perhaps unlike Romney), was a true-believer, but he sounded like a rational true believer who wasn't your crazy Uncle or touched cousin (like Bachmann does).

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   11/30/11 12:19

Oh, I wanted to add that I'm not sure if Ronald Reagan, campaigning in same rational way that he campaigned in 1980, would be all that popular in this primary.

Reagan was a man of great restraint in his campaign rhetoric, particularly when criticizing Carter. I'm not sure if that kind of reasonableness would be rewarded with the nomination today. It's a "hot electorate" that is searching for a "hot nominee". Reagan wasn't that.

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   11/30/11 12:41

I think you've hit upon another key point. The base clearly wants a combative candidate -- Reagan wasn't that -- and Romney isn't, either. Gingrich, Cain, Perry, Bachmann -- the only common thread among them is their willingness to antagonize the opposition.

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TruthTower
   11/30/11 11:38

Newt has another problem: her name is Callista.

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   11/30/11 12:29

If America will hire a man whose First Lady was never proud of her country until her old man ran for president, then I don't think Callista is going to present any problem that can't be overcome.

Just sayin'.

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TruthTower
   11/30/11 13:32

Granted, Moochelle set the lowest bar for first ladies. However, we don't need to stoop to their level...Let's aim higher. In any event, Callister, with her half million Tiffany's bling, will not sell well to the American public....she is, of course, a longtime Washington insider, like her hubby.

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tasker
   11/30/11 11:40

I can't do your thought experiment because I think it fails to delineate the difference between Newt Gingrich and Romney in foreign policy.

Gingrich is the superior candidate in that department. I find it hard in the current climate to back a candidate that wants to continue to send Pakistan foreign aid -to the tune of 1.4 billion annually-no questions asked-and that is Romney.

You could say that Romney is of the "real politik" club but then explain his position on China?

Furthermore what would happen long term if Romney implemented his trade war with China?

His two positions towards China, and Pakistan seem to be in philosophical conflict.

Back on topic a lot of your thought experiment depends on polls-we don't know what will really happen in the primaries yet.

And...those polls if you look at the internals sometimes have as many as 60% of the respondents stating that they could change their minds, many of them have margins of error over 3% and a lot of them fail to take much time to filter for likely voters. The questions for that should include asking the respondents to identify their precincts...

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tasker
   11/30/11 11:42

"...how do you explain why actual-Romney is polling in the high 20s and Huntsman at the margin of error?"

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Familiarity-Huntsman is more of an unknown particularly in the primary states.

Heck Romney summers in New Hampshire.

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