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The Tebow Phenomenon

Dan has hit it on the head. Tebow’s open display of faith offends many on the left because, unlike so many athletes who start press conferences with “First, I just want to thank God” for whatever it is that they have just accomplished, Tebow actually means it. And it drives many on the left — especially the sports media, which is rife with liberals — batty.

The media’s view of the acceptable role of religion was best summed up by David Gregory recently, when, in an interview with Michele Bachmann, he drew a distinction between “God as a sense of comfort, and safe harbor and inspiration” and a Bachmann actually taking her cues from God. The former, God as New Age guru, is just fine, but if you really start believing that hokum, we have a problem with you. 

What is acceptable to the David Gregories of the world is ceremonial deism. The Pledge of Allegiance and “In God We Trust” is tolerable to many (though not all) who demand a strict separation between Church and State because, as Justice Brennan said in his dissent in Lynch v. Donnelly, “They have lost through rote repetition any significant religious content.” But what’s the point of religion and faith if it is merely ceremonial? Contrary to Brennan’s characterization, lots of Americans actually mean “under God” when they recite the pledge. Those same people don’t want a First Amendment (or a nation, for that matter) that only permits such public displays of affection for God when they are effectively meaningless.

Tim Tebow is so “polarizing” (in the words of some ESPN talking head I heard on my drive to work the other day) because he backs up his faith with sincerity of action. His throwing mechanics as a quarterback isn’t what is driving these commentators nuts. It is his view of prayer as something more than ceremony. 

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   12/06/11 12:35

I believe I have this story correct: When our founding fathers were trying to create the Constitution and it was not going well, Franklin suggested everyone go back to their homes and pray for five days. And everyone did...there are sermons from this period. The egotism of the carnel mind is on full display today, and its lack of wisdom and moral courage is as well. Only when this 'emnity against God' is silenced and we again execerise humility and listen for wisdom in the silence of our individual thought, will we see it manifested in our country

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   12/06/11 12:36

What actions, besides the ostentation on the field, shows his faith? Has he founded any charities? That's the way to show a relationship with Christ, not his form of praying in the exact way Matthew 6 tells us NOT to.

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Bronco Fan
   12/06/11 14:35

Yes, he has established the Tim Tebow Foundation which supports the charitable efforts he believes in. He has also opened a Children's Hospital in the Phillipines (where he was born, I believe) and has also done lots of other things in the Phillipines as well as here in the US.

A person may not agree with what he believes or does but he certainly seems to be consistent in both his walk and his talk.

I would also argue that "ostentation", like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. While less controversial, there is a more noticeable "prayer ring" in the middle of the field at the conclusion of many NFL games. Multiple players gather together without nearly the same level of concern from people who are deciding what a "good Christian" is.

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   12/06/11 15:01
   12/06/11 12:38

To the left, good religion is when it's treated like just a hobby. Bad religion is when people actually try to live by it. They really have no understanding of real faith.

Yet, strangely, the left's entire plan for economic recovery is based on "And then, a miracle happens..."

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Dave H
   12/06/11 12:39

So, religion is o.k. as long as it's not too religious.

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jeffJeffJefff
   12/06/11 12:41

Coffin of course forgoes Gregory's actual quote, puts words in his mouth to obscure the distinction the interviewer is drawing. Bachmann has stated previously that God had told her to run for Congress. Gregory is asking her if she, literally, hears the words of God and would utilize them to make policy or act.

the actual Gregory quote: "There’s a difference between God as a sense of comfort and safe harbor and inspiration, and God telling you to take a particular action"
There IS a difference between finding comfort in religion and using religious teachings to guide your decision making and claiming to hear the words of God. It's a distinction most Americans, left or right, would find important.

The rest of this post is just nonsense predicated on purposefully misunderstanding the question Gregory is asking.

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   12/06/11 23:06

Jeff, Sure. Tebow only offends David Gregory, and then not really because Shannen twisted his words. Sorry, but some of us read the comments on sports pages and have a family full of Obama voters who have EXACTLY the type of attitude described in this post. Religion is "OK if it works for you" but if you dare say that "Actually, I work for Him" then you're in trouble, dude. That's what Bachmann was saying, that she believed it was her proper place to run for Prez. I wouldn't vote for her but I don't question her personal relationship with God, doubt that it is authentic, and do believe that she is addressing important issues. The bottom line is the the Polite Presbyterianism of my youth is dead. The mainline churches have all abandoned the Bible. Anyone worthy of the name "Christian" now only vomits when lukewarm faith is mentioned. There is an unbridgeable chasm between us, it is just more evident than ever now. Has David Gregory ever questioned Obama's faith? No, in fact on Meet The Press he berated Speaker Boehner about any Republicans that questioned Obama's (supposed) Christian faith. So Obama's pastor of hate was OK in 2008, his promotion of licentiousness in all areas of life commendable, and dumping of debt on the next generation praiseworthy. It all works when your real God is yourself. As it is for all liberals. But carry on, we're just twisting poor ol' David Gregory's viewpoint, aren't we, and making up this Tebow stuff out of thin air? Sure.

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 Dave
   12/06/11 12:42

"His throwing mechanics as a quarterback isn’t what is driving these commentators nuts. It is his view of prayer as something more than ceremony. "

Okay, was with you until that part, Shannen. We would do well to divide two very different and unrelated objections to Tebow: Tebow as the Christian, and Tebow as the NFL player.

Tebow as the Christian peeves some people off. Oh well, boo-hoo. You, Lowry, and Foster are all right to point out the small-minded bitterness of this.

Tebow as the NFL player, however, is a valid objection. Surely, some people confuse the two objections-- Christian and NFL player, all become a melange of irrational hatred-- but when talking about ESPN (or other) professional sports commentators and journalists, they all have a reasonable argument to make against Tim Tebow.

An argument I happen to disagree with, for a variety of reasons. He is, after all, winning; maybe by luck, *certainly* via a team effort (he *wouldn't* be winning without that monster Denver defense), but he is, indeed, winning. And doing so in a way that many NFL talking heads say can't be done: running first, option plays in the NFL, a mediocre (but situationally effective) passing game, etc. That Tebow can win doing things "wrong" is a threat to their expertise. That something as intangible as "leadership" can *actually matter* (instead of just being something otherwise-statistics-obssessed Sabermetric commentators pay passing lip-service to) is a threat to their wisdom.

To me, and millions of fans, however, it's simply something called "fun." So what if it'll never last? So what if it's a fluky season, and all those 4th quarter comebacks and overtime wins rely more on dumb luck than actual talent? Who cares as long as it's entertaining to watch and root for? It's a *game*, people, remember?

I root for Tebow not because I'm a Christian (I'm not) nor because I have a vested interest in seeing him succeed (I wish him well, but I'm not a Broncos fan). I root for Tebow simply because he's entertaining, it's obvious he's a motivator for his team, and the team is FUN TO WATCH.

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Rob Smtih
   12/06/11 12:54

Didn't they start 1-5 under Kyle Orton, with the same "monster" defense? Everybody wants to give credit to the defense, but the same defense was playing those first 6 games and during the last 7. What's the difference between now and then?

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   12/06/11 13:05

The difference is Tim Tebow. Perhaps Denver's "miracle" wins - with the same defense and an inexperienced NFL quarterback - are beginning to make the Christians-in-name-only a bit nervous.

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   12/06/11 13:15

One suspects that if Tebow were a thug who just got done serving time for weapons possession or dog-fighting, the liberal sports press would be treating this as a Cinderella story.

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 Dave
   12/06/11 13:47

I'm not saying that Tebow doesn't deserve credit, even majority credit. But it's clear that his offensive numbers wouldn't be enough to win those games had not the defense gotten better. Tebow's obviously helped them get better through his ball control style of play (he doesn't turn the ball over hardly at all, and the run-first offense wears down opposing defenses and keeps Denver's fresh).

Plus, again, there's the intangible of having a winner in the locker room motivating everybody.

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   12/06/11 23:13

Dave, No kidding, ball control style under Tebow helps Denver's defense and exhausts the opposition's by the 4th quarter. So why do you even continue to address "his offensive numbers?" This isn't Fantasy Football. Sheesh. Admit you're mistaken, winning is winning. Football is a game of adaptations and the defenses are all designed to counter your beloved throwing quarterbacks. Well, they can't handle an old style option quarterback. What was old is new. Smart guys like you need to admit you're dumb once in a while.

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   12/06/11 13:52

"What's the difference between now and then?"

Time of possession and pass attempts - which of course, can be loosely related.

Denver wasn't a horrible team those first 6-games. I think their only double-digit loss was to Green Bay (not surprisingly). But, Orton was putting the ball up at least twice as much as Teabow is now; Orton had more than 40-attempts in a few games. Teabow had 15 attempts this week. 15

When you start turning the ball over on downs and leave the the opposing offense more time on the clock, they're going to score more often. I'd have to do the math to be precise, but just looking at the box scores, it appears that the Bronco's opponents are scoring roughly 8-points a game less with Teabow at QB than there were scoring without Teabow at QB. The reason they're scoring less is because Teabow is throwing less which allows the clock to run more.

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   12/06/11 12:59

Dave, I am not suggesting that there are not real questions about how long this Tebow winning streak can go on. Or that there aren't serious questions about his long term abilities as an NFL QB. And there are those who have no hidden agenda when they raise such obvious question. But I am suggesting that hateful garbage like this piece written on ESPN.com (which is where the "most polarizing figure in the NFL" comment I was thinking of actually game from) is driven by much more than a simple question about whether Tebow is a good quarterback at the NFL level or not. Take a look at the piece here by Howard Bryant, and tell me it isn't something else: External Link 

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kenberthia
   12/06/11 13:09

I don't think that's really fair to the article though. The article never mentions his relgion as being why he is "polarizing". And he is polarizing. As a player. Some say he is a horrible QB and it can't work long term. Others say he does enough and is enough of a winner to make it work or in any case, it's fun to watch.

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   12/06/11 13:13

What in that piece tells you it's something else? That piece is 100% about Tim Tebow as a (not very good) quarterback, and does not once mention God, Tebow's regular prayer, etc. It mentions that he is religious in passing, as one of several reasons why people would be compelled to like him. It spends the rest of the piece using good on-the-field evidence why he is not as good as his hype, plain and simple. He is "the most polarizing figure in the NFL," not because he's religious (no one cares!), but because he wins games despite playing a very unorthodox style that NFL experts hate (which is why I, for one, like him.) I think you others others are finding bias here without any evidence of it...

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   12/06/11 13:27

It spends the rest of the piece using good on-the-field evidence why he is not as good as his hype, plain and simple.

Hype? While he was still in college everyone said he would suck in the NFL. When he got to the NFL, everyone said he'd suck. The Broncos were 1-4 before Tebow and 6 and @#$%! 1 after Tebow, and everyone is still saying he sucks - including you.

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   12/06/11 23:20

Bmore, You obviously don't read the sports articles on Yahoo! nor the accompanying comments. Tebow is a bigger issue than his playing style. Ever had an ad nearly banned by the Super Bowl because of women's groups? Oh, I guess not, but Tebow has because it indirectly thanked his mother for not aborting him. It's nice that you like Tebow. Even nicer that you don't see bias -- "no one cares!" Nothing worse than nice people, they fall for anything and stand for nothing.

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