The Council of Guardians Supreme Court has announced it will hear the case over Arizona immigration law, which Gov. Jan Brewer appealed following a lower court’s ruling against the state. Counterintuitively, I think the White House privately wants to lose the case — that way, they get an irritant off the table that can motivate Obama’s opponents, while also being able to show their leftist allies how important it is to get out the vote, however disappointed they might be in The One’s performance, because he’ll appoint justices that won’t rule like this. As for how the Court is likely to rule, it all depends on which side of the bed Kennedy gets up on that morning — law having been replaced by “law” in modern America, i.e., the whim of a handful of lawyers.
That much disdain for one of the three branches of government established by the Founders -- not the men and women who serve there, but the institution itself -- makes me wonder how unpatriotic this Krikorian character is.
Maybe he's a big fan of the topography, nothing more.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseActually, the amount of disdain the left shows for our Constitution -- by positing a framework for its interpretation which encourages judges to eschew the actual language of the document and the history of its interpretation in favor of subjective notions of what the document **should** say, rendering our fundamental charter a dead letter, and not at all a living document (which leftists destroy by diminishing the sanctity of what it actually says) -- is consistent with the amount of disdain the left showed for the Constitution when they tried to destroy the document on the battlefield as opposed to inside our courtrooms.
Nothing has changed, except for the venue and context in which the left seeks to destroy the foundations of our nation, in favor of their "fundamental transformation" that they wish to impose on us all without one amendment to the Constitution.
Mr. Krikorian was expressing dismay with the manner in which a large swath of judges undertake to effectuate their oaths of office, which impugns not only their integrity as judges, but our whole system of government.
For you to suggest that we cannot criticize the judiciary is really quite astounding. They are as open to criticism as are any human beings.
They're mortal, and infinitely fallible, just like the rest of us.
If you want kangaroos as judges, go live among the wild animals in the Australian outback.
Funny that you'd admit to desiring to have your court system operate off of the pages of "Jungle Book".
How utterly unintellectual you actually prove yourself to be on a fairly consistent basis.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"That much disdain for one of the three branches of government established by the Founders -- not the men and women who serve there, but the institution itself . . . . "
To which you respond: "For you to suggest that we cannot criticize the judiciary is really quite astounding. They are as open to criticism as are any human beings."
Um, I think a fair-minded person can read what I wrote to allow criticism of judges, as opposed to the judiciary as an institution.
You tend to misuse words in an apparent effort to use big ones. Read your own posts. They're kind of stilted (when they're not vaguely threatening). I mean, really -- who "posits" a framework instead of "creating" or "establishing" or even "manufacturing" one? And who "eschews" language, as opposed to veering from it, twisting it, misinterpreting it? You're out there, naked, and you don't even know it.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseHe uses the words that any experienced legal scholar/writer would use when describing the things he describes.
If you don't know that, it doesn't make him "naked." It just means you're going off on something you don't know that much about.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNo, David, he's out on a limb with those words. I'm quite comfortable with that.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhat can I say? You're totally out of your depth here. If you're comfortable with your ignorance on the matter, that's fine with me.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYou really are quite the simpleton, for someone with such a puffed-up view of your own superiority.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThere is but no question that the power that the contemporary Court wields to day wasn't envisioned by a single Founding Father - even the ones who advocated for a strong Judiciary.
It has been downhill since Marbury. Robert Yates railed against ceding too much authority to the Supreme Court and recognized that such power would left to one institution would be fraught with problems for the Republic.
If he could have lived long enough to see the creation of the penumbra, he would have learned how prescient he was some 120-years earlier.
The Supreme Court we have today is not what the Founders had in mind; not even close.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI would add, most people don't even realize that the Supreme Court didn't merit its own building until some 80 or so years after the completion of the US Capitol.
Instead, the Court met in a multi-purpose room that was (and is) immediately beneath the Senate Chamber. Think about that; The Founders thought so much about the Court that they had the Court meet in the basement of their building - for 80-years.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhere exactly is this "disdain" for a branch of government, let alone "that much" of it?
Liberals tend to call any conservative criticism of anything "shrill" or "rage." I see you're participating in that little game.
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWay to make my point for me.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt is the randomness of the Court that necessitates passing enforcement laws in as many states as possible, as soon as possible. Opponents of enforcement, especially on the Republican side, will be arguing that it's best to wait for the Supreme Court to rule in order to save money in legal fees. But the Supremes will be less willing to overturn state enforcement laws the more states that have them. They follow the mood of the public more than they would like to admit. The Court's taking the case gives greater urgency, not less, to the effort to pass local enforcement measures.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThat is the problem with the "Living Constitution" paradigm; it essentially lets the law mean whatever the whim of a judge decides it to mean; which is a recipe for chaos.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseGimmie a break.
What's "cruel"? What's "unusual"?
What's an "unreasonable" search?
What are "arms"?
What process of law is "due"?
When is protection of the laws "equal"?
What's "speech"?
And on and on and on and on . . . .
Go ahead: Call those balls and strikes.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe point, which leftists like you routinely miss, is that the balls and strikes be called following learned people arguing over the meaning of words in the Constitution. This is fundamentally different from the "Living Document" idea, which essentially amounts to ipsey dixit.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseLook, language is imperfect and imprecise. That is why the proper interpretation of the Constitution is performed through discerning Original Intent, by examining not only the words of the document, but the debates of the day, for clues about the underlying moral and legal principles that the framers were attempting to codify. That is the precise opposite of "Living Document," which essentially boils down to Ezra Kleinism: it's hard to unnnerstand, because it was written, like, over a hundred years ago and stuff. And who cares what those old dead white guys thought anyway? Just serve up some penumbral emanations to get us where progressives wanna go.
Forget Ezra Klein. What does "cruel" mean? Does it mean what a reasonable person alive in 1789 would have understood to be "cruel"? Does it mean what a reasonable person today would consider "cruel"?
Just start with that one. "Cruel" had a meaning in 1789, and perhaps it has a different one today. Go ahead. Give me your thoughts.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseMike, you don't seem to get it. If you want a good definition of what "cruel" meant at the time of writing, you'd need a good justice who is willing to delve into the floor debate, the constitutional convention, and other texts of the time period. It's no easy task, to be sure. But I suspect that with today's "sensitivities" it took a lot more to reach the cruelty threshold then than it does today.
But that's okay. If the Court comes up with an definition that fits historical standards, and if today's society no longer likes that standard, we have a mechanism for changing the Constitution: the amendment process.
It's much better to leave the People to determine their destiny rather than to rely on the feelings of one or two justices. This is why the Court should be explaining what the law "is" -- not what it "should be."
Leave the law-making to the lawmakers.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"... [T]hey get an irritant off the table that can motivate Obama’s opponents ..."
An irritant they caused for themselves, by suing a state for attempting to do that which the federal government refuses to do -- enforce our borders.
The unprecedented nature of this lawsuit gets far too little mention. And if the Obama administration finds the pendency of this appeal irritating, it can look in the mirror.
I think there is a good chance that Arizona wins, because I doubt the federal government will be able to show how the Arizona law is inconsistent with federal law, laws the federal government is not enforcing.
If the Arizona statute is found to mirror federal law -- and it does, quite plainly -- then the fact that the federal government is choosing not to enforce its own has no bearing at all on Arizona being able to make a federal violation a violation of state law, and to prosecute offenses accordingly.
I'm not sure what kind of wiggle room Anthony Kennedy has for a different ruling. But, leave it to The Worms to create it, right?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYeah, this "irritant" is one of Obama's own making. He has vigorously sued every state and locale that has tried enforcing federal immigration law, has effectively halted enforcement of immigration laws by the feds, and has behaved in proper, post-American fashion at pretty much every turn. The only logical conclusion is that he wants to win, and permanently gut any enforcement of our immigration laws.
It isn't logical, then, to assume that Obama wants to lose the lawsuit. The few extra Hispanic votes he picks up by filing the suits won't counteract the white and possibly even black votes he's already lost by filing them.
That's not to say that come Election Day 2012 he won't be regretting the lawsuit, especially if his election defeat is a close-run thing. But if he stops enforcement it's a permanent move towards the type of America he'd prefer, unless and until Congress specifically passes a measure enabling states to enforce, which it won't.
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