As the race to win the Iowa caucus comes down to the wire, Rep. Ron Paul’s views on foreign policy have rightfully come under attack. Paul, who proudly touts his willingness to slash the defense budget, end the war in Afghanistan, and bring U.S. troops home from Europe and Asia, does have a group of hardcore supporters, but is he fit to be commander-in-chief?
Paul is often described as an “isolationist,” but he and other libertarians resist that label. In an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Saturday, Blitzer asked Paul about his objection to the term. Paul responded:
An isolationist is a protectionist that builds walls around the country. They don’t like to trade. They don’t like to travel about the world. And they like to put sanctions on different countries. . . . Nonintervention is quite a bit different. It’s what the Founders advised to get along with people, trade with people, and to have — practice diplomacy, rather than getting — having this militancy of telling people what to do and how to run the world, and building walls around our own country. That is — that is isolationism. It’s a far cry from what we believe in.
Libertarians like Paul who run away from the isolationist label do so because they realize that it is an unpopular position not shared by most Americans. After ten years of the War on Terror and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, it’s easy for politicians to rail against overseas commitments. But Paul’s “nonintervention” is no more within the American mainstream than isolationism is.
As Robert Kagan wrote in The Weekly Standard a year ago, the United States has undertaken 25 overseas interventions since 1898 (now 26, if Libya is counted). Kagan noted:
That is one intervention every 4.5 years on average. Overall, the United States has intervened or been engaged in combat somewhere in 52 out of the last 112 years, or roughly 47 percent of the time. Since the end of the Cold War, it is true, the rate of U.S. interventions has increased, with an intervention roughly once every 2.5 years and American troops intervening or engaged in combat in 16 out of 22 years, or over 70 percent of the time, since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
American administrations of both parties end up intervening in foreign conflicts and supporting our allies with overseas deployments because doing so is in our interest and because it embodies the values upon which our nation was founded.
If Paul and his fellow libertarians want to be viewed not as isolationists but as prudent noninterventionists, what are the instances in which they would use American military power? Paul often says that he supports a strong national defense, but who does Ron Paul think the American people need to be defended from? It isn’t al-Qaeda or fundamentalist Islam, since he wants to end our engagements in the War on Terror and has expressed concern about acts that don’t even involve significant troop deployments, like the targeted killing of U.S. citizen (and terrorist) Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen.
He told Wolf Blitzer that the real protectionists are those who “don’t want to trade with Cuba and they want to put sanctions on anybody who blinks their eye at them.” This is a telling statement about how high Paul sets the bar for designating a country an enemy of the United States. He has previously expressed his opposition to U.S. sanctions on Iran, which has killed Americans, as well as the citizens of allies such as Israel, for decades. To Paul, though, the mullahs have only been “blinking their eyes at us.”
His son, Sen. Rand Paul, defeated Trey Grayson in the 2010 Republican primary in Kentucky, in part by trying to differentiate his foreign policy views from those of his father. Rand Paul is now a lead surrogate for his father’s presidential campaign and as senator over the last year, he has hewed to the family line. He’s proposed massive cuts to the defense budget, called for significant cuts to foreign aid, including to Israel, and blocked routine Senate resolutions condemning brutal crackdowns in countries such as Syria as well as statements of support for key allies, such as the Republic of Georgia.
So who do Ron and Rand Paul think threatens the United States? If not Iran, Syria, Russia, or even China, then who? Or is their plan to reduce American military capabilities to the point where the American people can only be defended from an invasion by Mexico or Canada?
Also troubling is the fact that people who call themselves constitutionalists, such as the Pauls, argue that their foreign policy would be the type of foreign policy espoused by the Founders. They are obviously overlooking the inconvenient fact that there is no way that those men gathered in Philadelphia in 1776, who faced death if captured by the British, meant the words of the Declaration — “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” — to apply to just those thirteen colonies at only that time. Anyone who doubts this should look no further than Thomas Paine’s comment at the time that “the cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind.”
That’s actually the greatest problem with Representative Paul’s views. He doesn’t grasp what America is, what we have always stood for, and what our global responsibilities are as the world’s sole superpower, and he clearly has no sense of who actually threatens our way of life. A country governed by a Paul administration would lead to a much more dangerous world, embolden our enemies, and likely result in significant American casualties.
As Ronald Reagan eloquently put it in his speech at Pointe du Hoc on the 40th anniversary of D-Day:
We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We’ve learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.
Ron Paul has not learned that lesson. Lucky for the country, he’s unlikely to become president, but it’s heartening to see his rivals have begun to point out, as Newt Gingrich recently did, that “Ron Paul’s views are totally outside the mainstream of virtually every decent American.”
The same should be said of those who support him, regardless of what happens in Iowa. The Republican party does not need these voters, many of whom are independents or Democrats unlikely to support the eventual nominee. The libertarian policies they advocate, whether isolationist or noninterventionist, only serve to undermine the party of Reagan’s tradition of peace through strength. This is a tradition which, thankfully, all of Paul’s competitors have embraced, and it is the tradition that will guide the foreign policy of the next Republican occupant of the White House, whoever that may be.
— Jamie Fly is executive director of the Foreign Policy Initiative.
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Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"So who do Ron and Rand Paul think threatens the United States? If not Iran, Syria, Russia, or even China, then who?"
How about Nobody? Is that not an acceptable answer? There is no country today who threatens us, from a military standpoint. The combination of our geographic isolation and technological superiority practically ensure that any large-scale assualt on our nation is simply doomed to failure.
Without an external threat, however, much of the politics that drives today's Iron Triangle stops being viable. So it's perfectly understandable why the warmongers continue their scare stories. There's very little evidence to make one actually feel threatened, however.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseFish,
Yeah, nothing to fear around here ... just keep the shades on, eh?
Here's a link to a table showing thousands of Americans killed in the last 10 years on American soil by enemies of our way of life/lifeviews ...
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Impressive. And since statistics are your primary defense here ..... it should be noted that there are actually many times as many killed in one entire year from gang violence and the likes .... so clearly that is way more dangerous than the so-called "terrorists." Perhaps we should institute the same tactics with our gangs ... our own people? Every major city needs drone attacks ... sanctions on personal bank accounts ... and assassinations. If you can support it against "terrorists" because of the danger they pose to us then surely you should support it against those violent would-be-pertratiors who actually cause far more deaths to our citizenry. But would you support those measures?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseDon't be ridiculous. We were threatened in no way militarily by the actions of 9/11; terrorism cannot and does not constitute a military threat.
Childish responses like this are exactly what keeps the military-industrial complex fat and happy - the specter of continual and unending war, requiring never-ending appropriations - and the requisite environment of fear to back them up.
I'm not afraid of terrorists and you shouldn't be either... unless you agree with them that they have power and you are weak. I happen to think the opposite is true.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseLooks a lot more like a problem with our immigration policy than our foreign/defense policy. (And about half of those deaths were caused by native born Americans.) I don't see how a strong military and its overseas operations can do a thing to prevent incidents like these.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhere's the link to a table that shows thousands of Americans killed by Christians? I think 9/11 has changed your outlook towards Muslims
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"He has previously expressed his opposition to U.S. sanctions on Iran, which has killed Americans", yeah, and we have killed Iranians, so can they retaliate as well? You would say no, but then that would show your blatant and obvious hypocrisy in this issue. As stupid as some 14 year olds are around the country, I am not one of them. Even young teens can see through your smear campaign and hypocrisy. End this Now, and support the one candidate who is not a war mongering idiot who wants to destroy Iran just because they could possibly have the potential to maybe nuke us but that is not definite. Build a defense, stop the missile after launch to avoid the homeland, THEN use the military. Do NOT strike first. So in summary, RON PAUL 2012!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseKeen analysis of Paul's viewpoint, and great juxtapositioning with Reagan's guiding wisdom.
(plus, I'm flush with anticipation as to how Old Fan will manage to spin this into a rant against Gingrich).
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbusePaul has said time and time again that his foreign policy is to follow the constitution. To oppose his position is to oppose the constitution. Our current policy does not follow the constitution, and the claim is that is mainstream?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBrilliant!. Ronster says he is right. If you disagree with him, you must be wrong, since he says he's right. It thusly only can follow that if everyone else disagrees with the Ronster, then everyone else MUST be wrong. Ipso facto.
Kirk: Norman, everything Harry says is a lie. Do you hear me Norman? Everything Harry says is a lie.
Harry Mudd: Listen very carefully Norman laddy.... I'm lying.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSorry, neocons, but "mainstream" American foreign policy has failed abjectly and deserves to be utterly repudiated. Ron Paul is the only candidate who acknowledges this. Go Ron!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAnd yet, more republican primary voters like him better than pretty much all the alternatives.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhen Reagan realized his advisors had bamboozled him and the Marines into an untenable and dangerous fiasco in Beirut, he pulled out forthwith rather than waste time, treasure and blood on nation building. On the 2 other occasions he employed force-Grenada and Libya-he did so quickly and ferociously-and then promptly left. Or as in Latin America supported popular movements ratehr than have Americans do the fighting.
We face no real threats.
If the all important" mainstream" wants to keep going with more pointless engagements and deployments, they might want to understand that what popular support their agenda once had after 9/11 is gone.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"We face no real threats."
One of the dumbest things I have ever read. Ever.
I hate to break the news to you, but the days of waiting until the enemy has amassed a regular army and a robust navy to transport that army are long over.
In the technological age of asymmetric warfare, enemies no longer need to possess blue water navies or strategic air forces to present an existential threat to anyone, much less the US.
With the requisite amount of fissile material, a high school honors physics class could construct a working nuclear weapon if they had the help of an electrician and a good machinist. The technology is almost 80-years old, after all.
Plus, you don't need a miniaturized warhead for a missile system when there are over 6 MILLION shipping containers arrive in US ports every year. And, the device doesn't even need to enter US territorial waters. You could detonate a bomb on the eastern shore of the FL panhandle and the fallout would make the homes of 2M+ Floridians inhabitable. Imagine what such a detonation would do if it happened in Long Beach, or the Long Island Sound.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseEven if we were to accept your fear mongering - which I don't - how does spending huge amounts on our MILITARY stop that, at all?
It doesn't. So why are we still doing it?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI should have said we face no credible military threats.Touche!
And having troops spread across the globe nation building stops a mini-nuke in a shipping container...how? We spend 43% of all military spending on the planet. We do it foolishly. If perhaps said farflung troops were at our ports or on our borders they might really provide defense instead of teaching illiterate goatherders about the wonders of democracy at great expense to all of us and at pointless danger to themselves.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseLike most Paulbots, it's clear you haven't thought much of this through.
First, you can't stop what I described. It's impossible. The question isn't "How can the military stop it?" (because it can't), but rather, "How can the military effectively respond to it?".
Think about a nuclear detonation occurring inside the US. What questions would we ask ourselves, and more importantly, how long would it take to find the answers to those questions? We would want to know who made the bomb, who paid for the bomb, who provided the fissile material for the bomb and who delivered the bomb - all of which could be four different answers. And, unless someone immediately claimed responsibility - and that claim was credible - it would take weeks, or months or perhaps even years to determine who was behind it. Then what?
Are we, after a significant period of time has passed, going to launch a nuclear missile strike on someone - on anyone? Not likely. So, how would we respond? We would respond conventionally. To respond conventionally, you need to have the conventional forces that allow a country to project force: Carrier Battle Groups, Rapid Deployment Forces, and prolonged ground combat and combat support units - perhaps not targeting one country, but likely targeting multiple countries These of course are all the things that Paulbots don't think we need because "we don't face any real military threats.
"If perhaps said farflung troops were at our ports or on our borders they might really provide defense instead of teaching illiterate goatherders about the wonders of democracy at great expense to all of us and at pointless danger to themselves."
What you call "farflung", I call prepositioned. What you call "nation building", I call building an allied opposition force.
We are in a war with Islam. We have been for the better part of 50-years, and from their point of view, we have been for the better part of 1,300 years. I'll cede this point though: Right now, our greatest threat doesn't come from the outside, it's comes from the myopia of the American isolationist movement - that would be you.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseA surpise for you; we agree. Just think our approach has accomplished little. I agree that Islamic countries have been at war with us since at least Teheran in 1979. But our response hasn't accomplished much. Thought remains that it would be more productive to limit our contact with these nutballs.And harden our borders.
Killing Bin Laden should have been the only goal. The nation building and COIN nonsense has accomplished what exactly? I don't agree with Paul that it has led to more terrorism; they would hate us anyway.
Why do we allow Islamic people to emigrate here?Thwey do not wish to be American. In NYC the welfare rolls and public schools have exploded with Muslims.The first child born in NYC yesterday was born to Islamic parents; joy, another check from Uncle Sam! The PC nonsense has to stop.
Why do we not limit visas to Middle Eastern countires?
Why are mosques used by the 9/11 and 1993 bombers still open?I drive past such a place on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn at least once a week.
Why is the mosque of Alwaki and "Major" Hassan in Viriginia still open?
Why is out southern border still some 11 years after 9/11 still wide open?
Again, my point remains our defense budget is ill-spent and our farflung entanglements do little to make us more secure.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWell said.
I cannot get any Paulite to answer this simple question: Do you REALLY believe that our declared enemies who have repeatedly declared war on us, who have repeatedly attacked us on our own soil, and who adhere to a religion where one of the fundamental tenets is that their god has commanded them to conquer the world in his name are going to leave us alone just because we're tired of resisting them?
Its a fundamental tenet of the Islamic religion that Allah has commanded them to conquer the world in his name They've been working on this since Mohammed first took up his sword to subjugate his neighbors, they've hated everything to do with the "west" since Charlemagne stopped their advance at the Pyrenees and yet Paulites think that they'd settle down to a life of wine and song if only the big, bad USA would turn its back on everything outside our borders.
The "hide our heads under the blankets" foreign policy in the 1930's worked so well that by the time conflict came to our shores it took 4 years of total mobilization of our entire society, between 60 and 80 million deaths worldwide, and the dropping of not one but two nuclear bombs to cope with the megalomaniac regimes that could have had their aggression nipped in the bud had the US accepted the fact that "With great power comes great responsibility."
If children reading comic books can grasp that simple principle rational adults should be able to do likewise.
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