I’m still puzzling over the fact that I, the least religious contributor on NRO (okay, I’ll arm-wrestle ya for it, Andrew) offered the least enthusiastic of all the obituary posts for the late über-atheist Christopher Hitchens.
At last, an explanation, from a friend: “One of the reasons that you were immune to Hitchensolatry, I think, is that you are English and are therefore not susceptible to the American tendency to believe that anyone who speaks fluently with an Oxbridge accent must be right.”
I think my friend nailed it. The fluted tones of the English upper-middle-classes set my teeth on edge. Give me a Texas twang or a Mississippi drawl any time.
But why are Americans such suckers for those fluted tones? Were Lexington and Concord fought in vain?
The problem with your friend's explanation is that I'm American and I've concluded that Hitch was so terribly wrong on so many things.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhat I liked about Hitchens was that he seemed genuinely to understand the Christianity he rejected (in this respect much unlike Richard Dawkins, whose straw-man army, I guarantee, will not be missed by Christians). I do not remember the exact time or quote, but I remember Hitchens debating some liberal Christian or another. The Christian was hem-hawing on the question of the Resurrection and Hitchens interrupted with something like this: "With all due respect, the physical Resurrection of Christ is absolutely essential to Christianity; without it, you have close to nothing." Hitchens was right; the Christian was wrong, and good for Hitchens for calling it.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNonsense. Every good American knows that people who speak with British accents are evil. Everything we know comes from tv and movies. And which actors play the best baddies? That sound you hear is the fluted tone of villainy, my friend!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI posted this once before, I promise this will be the last time: on the old sitcom "Cheers", the waitress Carla said to one of the bar's patrons, "You're British, aren't you." Pleased, he said "Why yes - how did you know?". She answered "Because you sound smart even when you're saying stupid things."
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYou tend to be pretty cantankerous in general Mr. Derbyshire, so I'm not surprised. I think the more religious contributors respected the man for being intellectually honest even if they disagreed with some of his conclusions. That is the general impression I get from reading their pieces. I doubt his accent had much to do with it because, contra your friend, they didn't think he was right. Also, I doubt Richard Dawkins would get nearly as warm a send-off and he too has a British accent. I know, maybe it would sound different to an Englishman, but to my American ears they are the same.
Personally, I did not know much about Hitchens and was surprised to see some of the positions he staked out, which did increase my respect for him somewhat. I never cared much for him though because the most exposure I ever received to him was watching a debate he had with William Lane Craig at Biola University where Mr. Hitchens had his goose well and thoroughly cooked.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYour "least enthusiastic" obituary is just further evidence of your "least religious" standing. What happens to people after death is very important to religious people (most at least). Therefore, religious people will dwell more on the subject, trying to find meaning, trying to put it in context.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseA smug slap from Mr. Derbyshire. I assume he has a British accent . . . why should he be more credible than Mr. Hitchens?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI liked Hitchens because of his unflinching criticism of fellow lefties like Michelle Obama:
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About her senior thesis:
"To describe it as hard to read would be a mistake; the thesis cannot be "read" at all, in the strict sense of the verb. This is because it wasn't written in any known language."
That's great, only a fellow lefty it seems has the courage to say that, just like black conservatives are the only ones to use plantation analogy re: their fellow blacks on the liberal side.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBut Derb, as a Catholic, one of the reasons I still engage in Derbolatry must have something to do with your accent. That, and the fact you are right on many other subjects.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse“One of the reasons that you were immune to Hitchensolatry, I think, is that you are English and are therefore not susceptible to the American tendency to believe that anyone who speaks fluently with an Oxbridge accent must be right.”
But, John, I find you to be a blithering idiot.
Okay, not true, but you did leave yourself open to that jab.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe ingratiation was bad. The fantasies about judgment were unseemly. Disbelief is one thing. Calculated, mephitic contempt published almost biennially, regardless of coincident views on foreign policy, is another. God rest the man's soul; operative word, "God."
You need to post more often, John.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWe didn't want to take your orders, we never said you Brits weren't cool.
I think you're selling Hitch, and Brits generally, a bit short, though. First, most of us know Hitchens from his writing, where an accent is easier to miss. Granted, when Hitch was wrong he'd make you want to throw the magazine across the room, but when he was right, he was devastating in a way which was a joy to read or listen to.
There is something British politics teaches which American politics does not: how to skewer your foe in a way which is both effective and entertaining. Check YouTube for the take down of the EU ("Belgium is not even a real country"), or recall Thatcher's (?) of Haseltine ("...there to be walked all over just the same").
There's also something of the Prodigal Son effect at work when an famous apostate suddenly talks sense on a whole category of subjects (Islamofacism and Terror).
The accent helps, don't get me wrong, but there's a good deal more at work when Americans fall to pieces at the dulcet tones of the British.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse>Were Lexington and Concord fought in vain?
There is yet-another Kennedy running for Congress in Massachusetts. Chelsea Clinton's every move is closely monitored for political intentions, and in the meantime she was given a TV job for no reason. As Steyn often says, even King George would not have fondled your 89-year-old grandmother like the TSA does.
In other words: Yes.
As for the accents, Hollywood has taught us that people with British accents are always either professors or generals.
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAmericans are conditioned by the Eastern Elite Liberals (the EELs) that all thing Europe are better than all things American; socialized medicine, post-modernism, soccer, etc. Since the EELs dominate education and communication, it part and parcel of life. Fortunately many of us are immune.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseTo be fair to that type of American, they're not classist or snobbish specifically regarding the posh accent as you suggest, Derb. We're / they're pro-English chauvinist in that we reflexively view ANY English accent as a mark of culture, intellegence, and good breeding. I remember reading in Michael Caine's autobiography his amusement and bemusement that he, a rough talking working class actor whose English appeal was based on that, was seen in America as a debonaire, high class aristo. Most Americans couldn't tell the difference between Caine's mode of speech and Ronald Colman's.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI've used the same British accent theory to explain why Derbyshire is tolerated at National Review.
Reminds me of my one-sentence review of the HBO series 'Rome': The sun never sets on the British accent.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI'd seek out and read/listen to JD no matter where he was.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOr maybe it's just because Derbyshire is a grouchy old man who hates sharing the limelight with a countryman.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseRE: "I’m still puzzling over the fact that I, the least religious contributor on NRO (okay, I’ll arm-wrestle ya for it, Andrew) offered the least enthusiastic of all the obituary posts for the late über-atheist Christopher Hitchens."
To me it makes perfect sense. People who have a secular materialist worldview don't find the metaphysical interesting or worth much talking about. People who have a Christian worldview, do.
Many of us felt deeply sorry for Hitchens. We respected him for his brightness, curiosity, and spasms of unflinching honesty, while sorrowing for his obvious flaws, and for his inability or unwillingness to see reality or Truth. Kind of like we feel about John Derbyshire, as a matter of fact.
Think of it as the Great Man theory of tragedy -- Hitchens was a tragic figure, and in penultimate things, Christianity is a comedy. We in the comedy feel strongly about tragic heroes.
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