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The New Republic Twists Santorum

Liberal outlets have stopped at nothing to present Rick Santorum as an extreme and insensitive candidate, attempting to use his own words to do so. Last week, The New Republic staff posted “A Long List of the Most Terrible Things Rick Santorum Has Ever Said.” Like ThinkProgress’s list of “outrageous” things that I commented on last Friday, most of TNR’s quotations either distort Santorum’s message, or simply are not outrageous at all — in fact, they’re often just simply factual. Following are some of Santorum’s more “terrible” statements:

On the Catholic Church’s abuse scandals
: ‘Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture. When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political, and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.

It is hardly “terrible” to say that a culture that produces pedophiles, and the priests who themselves become pedophiles, must be somehow “infected.” That explanation does not provide, as Santorum notes, any excuse for the horrific crimes committed, but his statement isn’t only unobjectionable, the best evidence suggests that it’s actually accurate. Though Santorum’s comment on Boston is unsubstantiated, it isn’t offensive, and the only significant study of the causes of the Catholic Church’s sexual-abuse crisis so far, released in May 2011 by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, indicates that he was roughly correct otherwise. To quote:

Social and cultural changes in the 1960s and 1970s manifested in increased levels of deviant behavior in the general society and also among priests of the Catholic Church in the United States. Organizational, psychological, and situational factors contributed to the vulnerability of individual priests in this period of normative change.


On same sex marriage and bestiality:
 ‘In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.’

This quote, TNR seems to imply, equates homosexuality with bestiality — but it doesn’t. It goes without saying that no U.S. senator should use the phrase “man on dog,” but Santorum’s point is that marriage could no more apply to a relationship between two humans of the same sex than it could to a relationship between a human and an animal — marriage simply does not encompass either type of relationship, regardless of what one thinks of them. This is true, if inflammatory, given Santorum’s understanding of marriage, and doesn’t proclaim, as some may have claimed, that the two are equally unnatural or perverse. As an example, the laws of America’s roads don’t allow for travelling over the speed limit or driving intoxicated, for similar reasons, but doesn’t suggest any moral equivalence or level of similarity between the two.


On the link between same sex marriage and national security
: ‘I would argue that the future of America hangs in the balance, because the future of the family hangs in the balance. Isn’t that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?’

TNR pulls this quotation out of context to suggest that Santorum believes protecting traditional marriage is a matter of national security. In fact, Santorum said this in a Senate debate after Sen. Barbara Boxer objected that the Senate didn’t have time to consider a constitutional amendment to define marriage and would be better off fighting terrorism: “What is more of a threat — al-Qaeda or gay marriage?” Santorum responded to this unserious comparison with a less-than-serious juxtaposition of his own, merely cribbing Boxer’s language to suggest that the Senate indeed had time to consider domestic social issues instead of bumbling on foreign-policy ones.


On the war in Iraq:
 ‘As the hobbits are going up Mount Doom, the eye of Mordor is being drawn somewhere else. It’s being drawn to Iraq. You know what? I want to keep it on Iraq. I don’t want the eye to come back to the United States.’

Out of context, the quotation seems to suggest Santorum, as a foreign-policy hawk, would actually prefer America’s attention, its “eye” to be cast abroad rather than focusing on issues at home. But Lord of the Rings fans will understand his actual point, since the Eye of Sauron represented not just the attention, but the military might, of the evil forces in Middle Earth. Santorum was arguing that the United States’ engagement in Iraq was drawing the forces of Islamic terrorism, such as suicide bombers from, say, Syria or Saudi Arabia, to focus on Iraq, rather than attacking the American homeland. This is a view held by a number of foreign-policy thinkers, and not an objectively “terrible” one. Writers at, especially, The New Republic are surely aware of this, and a legitimate, if controversial, view on foreign policy is hardly a “terrible statement.”


On the Affordable Care Act:
 ‘I would tell you that my first priority as a president of the United States is to repeal Barack Obama’s healthcare plan. I think it’s the most dangerous piece of legislation, well, in many generations. It is the reason that I’m running for office. Because I believe Obamacare is a game changer. I believe Obamacare will rob America, the best way I can put it is, rob America of its soul.’

It is hard to understand, as above, how this statement can be construed as “terrible.” Santorum’s view is not extreme or terrible if one believes that Obamacare will lead to a “government takeover of health care,” as 54 percent of Americans do, moving us toward a socialist system, which some believe may rob America of its free soul. Indirect thought it may be, this is not a fringe view, and one only need to look at how British conservatives must defend their National Health Service to see what a government takeover of medicine can do to national character.

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   01/10/12 11:48

For all the hoopala, there would have been more additional marriages in New York if people had been permitted to marry their dogs.

On the Church scandal, Santorum is exactly right. The rejection of Church teaching on sexuality in United States Seminaries was the primary cause, but the remedy for disasters brought about by liberalism is always more liberalism.

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Chuck Anziulewicz
   01/10/12 12:06

Ever since Massachusetts becames the first state in the nation to allow Gay couples to legally marry, hundreds of thousands of Gay couples across the United States have either gotten married or registered their civil unions or domestic partnerships. These are law-abiding, taxpaying Gay Americans who have made a solemn pledge to one another before family and friends.

But now along comes Rick Santorum and HIS pledge to forcibly DIVORCE those hundreds of thousands of couples. Santorum has made it abundantly clear that under HIS administration there will only be one law governing marriage in the United States, and that law will NOT apply to Gay couples. Santorum has unapologetically insisted that he wants all those legal marriages and civil unions and domestic partnerships to be declared null and void.

The quest for marriage equality by Gay couples has absolutely nothing to do with Straight (i.e. heterosexual) couples. Nothing is changing for them. Nothing is happening to “traditional marriage.” Most people are Straight, and they will continue to date, get engaged, marry and build lives and families together as they always have. None of that will change by allowing Gay couples to do the same. This is really not any sort of a “sea change” for marriage, since the only difference between Gay and Straight couples is the gender of the two persons in the relationship.

While Rick Santorum may prefer to focus on the economy as we get closer to November, anyone who loves and supports their Gay friends, family members, and co-workers needs to take a hard look at the theocratic road Santorum intends to take us down.

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bnelsor
   01/10/12 14:11

you are missing reality here - the "only difference" you mention IS THE difference. because same-sex couples have NO WAY to reproduce, they are, by definition, not married. Rick didn't make this so, it's simply an undeniable fact.

the state recognizes marriages to they can determine who is responsible for which off-spring and it give them incentives for bringing up good citizens. it thereby has a very real interest in bringing up strong families.

you need to look to whichever god you believe in to ask them why they made men and women different. Rick is simply recognizing that fact.

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 ds
   01/10/12 16:14

In your view of things, how is an infertile heterosexual couple (an obviously and catastrophically infertile one, such as one in which the woman has had a hysterectomy) different from a gay couple?

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   01/10/12 19:41

If such a couple chooses to adopt, they will be able to provide a household with a committed father and mother for the child.

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   01/10/12 15:42

Chuck A,

Santorum is hardly alone. *All* the Republican candidates, other than Paul, favor a federal marriage amendment defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman for the entire country. If the issue is so important to you, Paul is your only option.

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 Rook
   01/10/12 20:46

But Santourm is the only one that believes all this stuff.

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   01/10/12 23:02
 ds
   01/10/12 12:07

Brennan has, for obvious reasons, the most trouble explaining/defending the famous "man on dog" quotation. TNR would have been better off had they focused on that one statement. As Brennan says, none of the rest are really "terrible" in any sense. In fact I think that Americans would agree with the rest of his comments in context.

But one bad line can definitely sink a candidate. Ask Trent "we wouldn't have all these problems" Lott or John "I voted for the war before I voted against it" Kerry.

The "man on dog" quote is disqualifying in itself and outfits like TNR just dilute their argument when they include other, vastly less controversial, statements.

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   01/10/12 12:33

If the "man on dog" comment is disqualifying, every candidate will have said something in his life that is disqualifying. The "man on dog" comment assumes that the public is not composed of morons unable to understand logical constructions. The only thing wrong with it it that it is ugly. To me it's not as ugly as, for example, Biden's casual profanity.

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 ds
   01/10/12 14:02

"The "man on dog" comment assumes that the public is not composed of morons unable to understand logical constructions."

Try being a little more condescending. Go ahead, try. I have a degree in mathematics so I think I can "understand logical constructions."

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   01/10/12 15:47

I don't mind if you find me condescending, but there is no ground for it. I am merely stating the obvious, which you, as a non-moron with a degree in mathematics, must well understand. It is in fact you who are condescending if you believe the public to be incapable of understanding that Santorum was not equating homosexuality with b*stiality.

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 ds
   01/10/12 16:13

No I really don't see how he's not drawing a connection between the two when, asked about gay marriage, he *spontaneously* decides to say "marriage isn't bestia****".

Right. Marriage isn't bestia****. But most people don't feel motivated to get up in the morning and just say that, apropos of nothing.

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   01/10/12 19:50

Actually, he said "man on dog" rather than "b*stiality," but whatever.

In discussing whether homosexuality is deviant, b*stiality, incest, polygamy -- all those things tend to come up. It isn't as if Santorum dreamed up the subject or was the first to expand the scope of the conversation to include it.

However, that wasn't his point, which was clear: Marriage is only one thing, not multiple things. He said he didn't want to single out homosexuals, because everything other than the union of a man and a woman is excluded. To provide an example of other exclusions, what could he do but name an animal, vegetable, or mineral? If he had said marriage isn't man and a palm tree, would he have been comparing homosexuals to palm trees?

I really think everyone gets what he was saying.

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 Rook
   01/10/12 20:45

No, he wanted to make homosexuals feel better by grouping them with pedophiles and dog defilers. Thanks, man, for the most excellent clarification, you've made it so much less offensive.

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   01/10/12 23:06

Your emotional response seems to be causing you to flail about. Perhaps you could respond to my question. I don't think Santorum's aim was to make homosexuals feel either better or worse, but to explain that marriage is only one thing.

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   01/10/12 13:43

Obviously, DS has troubles distinguishing between direct comparisons and a reductio ad absurdum argument. Santorum wasn't equating bestia**** with homosexuality.

The problem is that certain people will use any reference to these sorts of things in conjunction with their cause to claim offense. It's easier than addressing the actual point the commentator was trying to make.

It's not a disqualifying quote when read in context of the argument Santorum was trying to make, however clumsy it came out. What is disqualifying is a person who would seriously argue that Santorum was suggesting the equivalence of the two.

PS The filter is turned up way too high here.

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 ds
   01/10/12 14:02

He didn't claim they were "equivalent". But when he talked about the kinds of things that marriage *isn't*, he included bestia****. What was the point of that, pray tell? Let's imagine we accept your point that he was making no connection whatsoever -- none -- between homosexuality and bestia****. OK, then, what was the point of saying that marriage doesn't include bestia****? Was he having a discussion with someone who was claiming it was?

No -- he was talking about gay marriage. And it was *in that context* that he said, "marriage is not bestia****." There's the connection. You're being obtuse if you refuse to see it.

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   01/10/12 15:51

Well, I am going to have to take back what I said above about the value of a degree in mathematics.

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Marc Schriftman
   01/10/12 12:11

> Obamacare will rob America, the best way I can put it is, rob America of its soul

Everyone understands that there is room for hyperbole in politics, but language like this is terrible because it leads people down a disastrous path. Staking out a maximalist position (no one says "I think this will rob America of only half its soul!") guarantees that conversation considers only two positions - repeal or don't repeal - and repeal is a pipe dream nurtured by partisans who think that America's forgotten how bad things were _before_ Obamacare. The language also ignores the fact that Obamacare is a major compromise between single payer advocates and free marketeers. If this bill robs America of its soul, what would a single payer bill have done? Robbed America's soul _and_ killed its pony?

Santorum wants to be president - not a talk-show host. He should remember that words have meaning, and not throw words like 'soul' around lightly.

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