In what is sure to be a staple of Democratic talking-points heading into the general election, former Democratic congressional staffer turned MSNBC talking head Julian Epstein argued that President Obama “has turned around an economy,” and that “that kind of economic turnaround, we have not seen in our lifetime.” The conservative on the panel, strategist Cheri Jacobus, cannot help but laugh. Meanwhile, host Martin Bashir is especially eager to hear how great the recovery has been.
Well, I have to say for my daughter this is absolutely true. Of course she doesn't know that since she is just 3. Although, I think she may have a better grasp on math than the white house.
I stumbled across Martin Bashir's show a week or so ago and was astounded at what a hate-fest it was: character assassination, personal attacks, anything but facts and analysis. Unbelievable stuff.
"The growth over the last two years is PHENOMENAL compared to when we started (insert best possible date to maximize GDP "growth"). "
Of course, typically, post recession growth is far above average (much less 2%) and employment increases (along with labor participation rates). But its all about getting ONE talking point out there that the liberal media can flog for you, isn't it?
"Our Dear Leader announces that the latest 5 year plan has produced record numbers of jackets for this record heat wave" The wait is only 5 days!
Seriously? The only expanding business these days is the HUGE company "FOR LEASE,"
followed by "Going Out of Business" and those businesses producing nothing and don't even to bother to open their doors.
This is intellectual dishonesty not seen since the days of Breshnev. The fact that people dish this swill is only topped by the fact that some will choose to eat the slop.
Those of us outside the Liberal fever swamp often assume someone like the oleaginous Julian Epstein (let him be a lesson to you young ones about the dangers of alcohol) is just saying this nonsense to be provocative. He does not believe it.
That's the giving them more credit than they have earned. These lunatics believe this stuff. The Obama crowd has been peddling the FDR comparisons since the guy got elected. They had the whole narrative worked out by the inauguration and they are not going to let facts and events get in the way.
"The Obama crowd has been peddling the FDR comparisons since the guy got elected."
Good point. FDR's accomplishment -- to make a bad economy worse but make everyone feel good about it with skillful PR -- was a good trick, but it may be the kind of trick that only works once.
Although financial experts predicted three years ago that the economy would slowly recover on its own, without government intervention and massive spending, for the sake of argument, let's assume President Obama's economic policies are responsible for the improving economy. Does Mr. Epstein believe we got our money's worth? Was a drop of one percent in the unemployment rate (which could rise again once Obama's policies go into full force and effect) and other anemic improvements worth almost $6 trillion in additional taxpayer debt?
Boy, I sure do hope they use this line in the general election. It's so outrageously off the mark that you can't help but laugh out loud. If they do this, this will illustrate to enough people that not only can the words that come out of their mouths not be believed on this issue, but on all issues. It's another example of them saying that x y or z does one thing (health care law cutting the deficit for example) when we all know it's a lie.
As Rush would say, this guy is landslideable, especially if they use this ridiculous line.
On the other hand, they are saying this on MSNBC, their base. MSDNC viewers will hear this sort of thing and believe it, and scream you down if you ask them to prove it. So maybe it's just to reassure the base that the ship is doing just fine, as Obama boards the life raft on the other end of the ship.
Well, I have to say for my daughter this is absolutely true. Of course she doesn't know that since she is just 3. Although, I think she may have a better grasp on math than the white house.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI stumbled across Martin Bashir's show a week or so ago and was astounded at what a hate-fest it was: character assassination, personal attacks, anything but facts and analysis. Unbelievable stuff.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWelcome to the new, Obama, narrative:
"The growth over the last two years is PHENOMENAL compared to when we started (insert best possible date to maximize GDP "growth"). "
Of course, typically, post recession growth is far above average (much less 2%) and employment increases (along with labor participation rates). But its all about getting ONE talking point out there that the liberal media can flog for you, isn't it?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseEpstein is a child prodigy! Only three years old and he can read Obama Administration economic reports.
Of course, because he is only three years old, he believes them.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseInteresting, since housing is still in the dumps and the fed is saying unemployment will probably rise.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abusewhere does it say that unemployment is expected to rise? I thought we had some good unemployment reports out recently.
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseMr. Epstein is right! This is the best economic recovery of my lifetime!
Cordially, Billy.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAge 2
Georgetown, Washington, DC.
The best of our lifetime? Well, to believe it, you'd have to be born yesterday.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseComrades,
"Our Dear Leader announces that the latest 5 year plan has produced record numbers of jackets for this record heat wave" The wait is only 5 days!
Seriously? The only expanding business these days is the HUGE company "FOR LEASE,"
followed by "Going Out of Business" and those businesses producing nothing and don't even to bother to open their doors.
This is intellectual dishonesty not seen since the days of Breshnev. The fact that people dish this swill is only topped by the fact that some will choose to eat the slop.
Nauseating!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThose of us outside the Liberal fever swamp often assume someone like the oleaginous Julian Epstein (let him be a lesson to you young ones about the dangers of alcohol) is just saying this nonsense to be provocative. He does not believe it.
That's the giving them more credit than they have earned. These lunatics believe this stuff. The Obama crowd has been peddling the FDR comparisons since the guy got elected. They had the whole narrative worked out by the inauguration and they are not going to let facts and events get in the way.
Again, liberalism is a fanatical religious cult.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"The Obama crowd has been peddling the FDR comparisons since the guy got elected."
Good point. FDR's accomplishment -- to make a bad economy worse but make everyone feel good about it with skillful PR -- was a good trick, but it may be the kind of trick that only works once.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThey would look you in the eye at noon and tell you it was nighttime. Democrats are lying b*astards who will say anything at anytime.
We need to be contrarily blunt about Obama's abject failure to combat the Big Lie of his competence.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAlthough financial experts predicted three years ago that the economy would slowly recover on its own, without government intervention and massive spending, for the sake of argument, let's assume President Obama's economic policies are responsible for the improving economy. Does Mr. Epstein believe we got our money's worth? Was a drop of one percent in the unemployment rate (which could rise again once Obama's policies go into full force and effect) and other anemic improvements worth almost $6 trillion in additional taxpayer debt?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOddly enough, I originally mis-read that headline as saying "MSNBC Panelist: Economic Recovery to last the Rest of ‘our Lifetime’"
And it seemed to make sense to me.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThis is true - if you are 3.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOtherwise, not so much...
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$*@!. That's the Obama reelection strategy.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYes, MSNBC is the bizarro world Fox News, that's for sure.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseHe's absolutely correct. We've never before had a recovery in which jobs were lost.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseMartin Bashir is NOT an American, just like some others, so what can one expect?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBoy, I sure do hope they use this line in the general election. It's so outrageously off the mark that you can't help but laugh out loud. If they do this, this will illustrate to enough people that not only can the words that come out of their mouths not be believed on this issue, but on all issues. It's another example of them saying that x y or z does one thing (health care law cutting the deficit for example) when we all know it's a lie.
As Rush would say, this guy is landslideable, especially if they use this ridiculous line.
On the other hand, they are saying this on MSNBC, their base. MSDNC viewers will hear this sort of thing and believe it, and scream you down if you ask them to prove it. So maybe it's just to reassure the base that the ship is doing just fine, as Obama boards the life raft on the other end of the ship.
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