Writers Nancy and David French are longtime vocal Mitt Romney supporters, co-founders of the group Evangelicals for Mitt. In a new e-book they make the case for Why Evangelicals Should Support Mitt Romney (And Feel Good about It!); they talk about their case — and why anyone might want to listen to it — here:
KATHRYN JEAN LOPEZ: Why the “Feel Good About It!”? Haven’t you heard no one is excited about Mitt Romney.
NANCY FRENCH: As you can see from recent polling, now that the voting has started and more people are paying attention, Mitt is doing very well. Excitement is building, but we also know that we need to “close the deal” with conservatives who might be skeptical or who’ve heard a tremendous amount of misinformation about Mitt. Quite a few voters are giving him a first real look. Here’s the bottom line: We live in an era of debt downgrades, explosive deficit spending, and persistent joblessness. Conservatives should be excited about a candidate who has a record of securing debt upgrades (in Massachusetts), balancing budgets and creating surpluses (for the Olympics and in Massachusetts), starting businesses, and creating jobs.
LOPEZ: When and why did you start Evangelicals for Mitt?
DAVID FRENCH: After spending years merely watching — and talking about — presidential politics, we decided last cycle that we wanted to get more actively involved. We started Evangelicals for Mitt in 2006 to make the case for Governor Romney to a vital conservative constituency. Simply put, we think he’s the right person at the right time. We need an economic turnaround. Since 2006, our work has expanded in interesting ways, and we’ve been privileged to help bridge some unnecessary gaps between Mormon, evangelical, and Catholic voters.
LOPEZ: Aren’t you too close to and in the tank for Romney to be objective?
DAVID: We’re not objective, but we strive for intellectual honesty and charity in our arguments. We admire some of Mitt’s competitors. (Rick Santorum’s linkage of family status and poverty, for example, is vital to the national debate.) Though we’re unapologetic Romney advocates, our arguments still have to stand and fall on their own merits. In the book, we make specific, factual arguments based on his record in business, in the Olympics, and in public office. But we also make subjective arguments, based on our personal experiences with Mitt and Ann.
LOPEZ: Has his nomination this time around at any point felt inevitable to you?
NANCY: Never. After all, virtually every pundit in America wrote off John McCain during the last primary cycle, but he secured the Republican nomination months before Barack Obama finally finished his primary contest. Anything can happen in politics. Having said that, he’s in a better position than any candidate in this astonishingly volatile race.
LOPEZ: Why are you so adamant about identifying as evangelicals supporting Romney?
NANCY: We exist to make one simple point: Not only can evangelicals support Mitt, he is the best candidate for people of faith. Why? Because he’ll most effectively advance the core cultural, political, and economic values of the evangelical community. Evangelicals are a critical component of the GOP voting base, and we wanted to speak directly to them.
DAVID: Is there a lot of anti-Mormonism out there among the GOP base you’ve encountered?
FRENCH: There’s not a lot, but the anti-Mormon sentiment that exists can be quite loud and hostile. Fortunately, the more they talk, the more they discredit themselves. As a general matter, the GOP base is quite experienced with secular leftist hostility to religion and thus shuns those few people who are actively anti-Mormon. Conservatives are unified around common values, not common theology.
LOPEZ: Will evangelicals stay home to any significant degree if Romney is the Republican nominee?
DAVID: No. Evangelicals have the same concerns of most Americans. Yes, we’re pro-life –and proudly so. But we also have to pay mortgages, make payroll, or find work. Evangelical conservatives aren’t simply one-dimensional social conservatives, which is why we spent considerable time in the book describing Mitt’s record of turning around failing companies and rescuing floundering economies. (At the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans, we handed out piggy banks which read, “The Economy is a Moral Issue.”)
LOPEZ: Does it matter if Romney is Christian or not?
NANCY: Mitt’s character, competence, and ideas matter greatly. He has an unbroken record of faithful and honorable service in his public (and private) life. Those who require a political leader to adhere to their particular denomination are more tribalist than anything else. Our last two Baptist presidents were Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Religious identification is not a proxy for virtue — or ability.
LOPEZ: Did you find it disappointing that some evangelical leaders very prominently went Santorum this weekend?
DAVID: Yes, for a couple of reasons. First, we’re disturbed so many of them wished to support Newt, who has a checkered ethical past and uses leftist class warfare rhetoric to undermine free enterprise. Though we understand why they chose Santorum — a tremendous champion of the unborn — Mitt’s a better choice. He’s strong on life, better on the economy, better on entitlement reform, better on foreign policy.
LOPEZ: Is it hard being the defender of the flip-flop candidate?
NANCY: It’s not hard to defend someone who’s moved to our side of the argument on abortion. It’s not hard to defend a pro-life record that earned Mitt a political leadership award from Massachusetts Citizens for Life. It’s not hard to defend his economic record as governor or his record in the private sector and the Olympics. Once you move past the loaded and unfair “flip-flop” phrase and discover people’s actual objections, the conversation is typically easy.
LOPEZ: You say you’re pro-life but you support the five-dollar abortion candidate who boosted Planned Parenthood while in office?
NANCY: We do more than just talk the talk. David and a couple of friends started Harvard Law School’s sole pro-life club in 1992. (The Society for Law, Life, and Religion is still in existence to this day.) David works for a pro-life legal organization and was a keynote speaker at the Students for Life annual convention in 2010 and 2011. Plus, our pro-life convictions led us to grow our family through adoption.
In other words, this is a core issue for us. Mitt took on a very hostile pro-abortion culture in Massachusetts and did all he could reasonably do. A governor can’t overrule the state supreme court (which mandated taxpayer funding of abortions in Massachusetts), but he can wield the veto pen and use the bully pulpit. Mitt vetoed expanded access to the morning-after pill, he vetoed an expansive stem cell research bill, and he made the case for life within Massachusetts. He’s made a specific pro-life pledge that would make him our nation’s greatest pro-life president. NARAL is trying to stop him, and the pro-life movement will embrace him. If we weren’t completely convinced that Mitt Romney is pro-life, we wouldn’t be “evangelicals for Mitt.”
LOPEZ: Is that last one the most frequently raised issue from the Right?
DAVID: Not really. Politics is downstream from most Americans’ lives, so many people don’t know about these candidates’ positions. Most are are only now beginning to pay attention, so our book offers a quick education.
LOPEZ: And what about those marriage licenses he didn’t have to have issued?
NANCY: Oh my. The very idea that Mitt could have stopped gay marriage in Massachusetts by refusing to issue marriage licenses is sheer legal quackery. It’s like blaming the fireman for showing up at the inferno. David (who is a Constitutional attorney) deals with the issue thoroughly in the book, but here’s the bottom line. Mitt did all he lawfully could do to stop judicial imposition of same-sex marriage: he fought for a constitutional amendment properly defining marriage and went so far as to file suit to force the state legislature to vote on the state’s marriage amendment.
LOPEZ: Do conservatives who worry Romneycare and past positions will prevent a clear contrast with Obama in the general election have a legitimate concern?
NANCY: No. The difference between Romney and Obama will be as clear as the difference between an iPhone and the phone on top of Eddie Albert’s telephone poll. As the Wall Street Journal recently said, Mitt’s brand of capitalism represents the “dynamic capitalism” of free enterprise and entrepreneurial risk-taking. By contrast, Barack Obama’s European model is “dinosaur capitalism.” To take just one example, Mitt’s brand of capitalism gave his investors 88 percent returns. Obama has invested billions through government-directed crony capitalism and taxpayers stand to lose most (if not all) of their investment.
DAVID: The difference between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama is the difference between an opportunity society and an entitlement society – between an American model of growth and liberty and a European model of managed decline. Additionally, Obama will be doubling down on Obamacare, while Romney will be trying to repeal it. In fact, Mitt’s health care record (as we argue in the book) can be a real advantage in the general election. He knows the issue, has lived the battles, and can explain better than anyone why a one-size-fits-all national model can’t work in a large and diverse country.
LOPEZ: Is it a problem that he has all those sons and none of them has served in the military?
NANCY: The Romney sons are like their father: men of integrity who love their country. The vast majority of young men don’t serve in the military. We wish more would, but we can’t possibly make that decision for anyone else. (Indeed, David wishes he’d joined much earlier in life rather than waiting until his mid-thirties to enlist). Rather than lament those who haven’t served, we’d rather appreciate those who have.
LOPEZ: What is Romney’s core, so far as you can tell?
DAVID: It’s not all that complicated: Mitt loves Jesus Christ, his family, and his country. He’s a conservative with a fundamentally optimistic view about America’s future and a proper perspective on America’s unique past.
LOPEZ: What kind of First Lady would Ann Romney be?
NANCY: Okay, we’re definitely biased when it comes to Ann. I had the privilege of working with her last campaign cycle and got to know her quite well. I learned a great deal from her, especially some of her valuable insights about raising children in the midst of a phenomenally fast-paced life. Ann is a strong, gracious, smart woman who will be an honorable and inspirational First Lady.
LOPEZ: What’s new in the e-book and why should conservatives care?
DAVID: In 2005, Nancy was adamantly opposed to supporting a Mormon for president. In fact, she said, “I will never vote for Mitt Romney.” This book traces her journey through the issues and even through the campaign. It also reveals the personal side of Mitt and Ann Romney, telling stories from our interactions that reveal their character. This is not a dry political tome but instead part memoir, part argument.
Why should conservatives care? Because we’ve long sought a leader who can artfully — and persuasively – advocate for our positions on life, marriage, and the economy and have the competence and character to deliver on his promises. Finally, we have a candidate who can do just that. This book offers a one-stop overview of Gov. Romney — the man and the leader.
Plus, when conservatives read the book, they’ll be happy to discover that our next president is one of them.
Romney didn't do "all he could reasonably do" to advance the pro-life cause in Massachusetts; when the choice came down to vetoing Romneycare because it provided for taxpayer funding of abortion---making every pro-lifer in the Bay State financially liable for infanticide---Romney signed Romneycare into law anyway. He defends Romneycare to this day.
And people who claim to be pro-life defend him nonetheless.
Romney's about as pro-life as his ambition demands. And as pro-abortion when that is demanded as well.
It is not his flip-flopping that is his greatest weakness; it is his utter lack of any principle save ambition.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseUpon reflection, what really galls me about my fellow Catholics in this instance is that we are forever demanding of our Catholic brothers and sisters that they cast their votes recognizing the Church's teaching on the sanctity of life and are highly critical of "cafeteria Catholics" who ignore the right to life while embracing candidates for other reasons, even when there is a faithful Catholic in the race to support.
Yet as soon as "Mr Inevitable" Rockefeller Republican comes down the pike, what do we do? Abandon our faith and its principles and vote for him over a Rick Santorum.
It is disgusting and hypocritical and must make people wonder whether or not Catholic Republicans are any less "cafeteria" than Catholic Democrats are.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI don't think you realize how bad you sound to everyone not in your group. Step outside your shoes and view the pluralistic society we have and think how terrible your statement sounds. You're putting religious dynamic and observance a head of our nation. That sounds great if you only care about the Bible and you want to disregard society around you at large and start drawing all these lines between true believers and non. It worked REALLY well in the middle ages for a thousand years or so when the bible, and your interpretation of it, became the dividing line for our political affairs.
You're so divisive, you're not only being divisive among other Christians, but you're divisive among Catholics as well. Again, a couple thousand years of Christian history from so-called Christians really points to one thing. Mixing politics and religion is a terrible idea. Christ didn't do it in his time on Earth, why should you!?!
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuseteflon: Don't be so hard on yourself and your fellow catholics. Religion and hypocrisy go hand in hand.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBut didn't Medicaid already require payment for abortion? So Massachusetts folks were already funding it?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court had ruled that state plans had to cover abortion, and the state would be covering it no matter what Mitt did. Mitt had nothing to do with taxpayer funding of abortions. He opposed it then, and he opposes it now. But he couldn't overrule the Massachusetts Supreme Court.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBut of course he COULD.
A principled man does not enforce an unjust law. Did St Paul upon his conversion return to enforcing death penalties on Christians? "I cannot overrule the Sanhedrin."
If the Massachusetts Supreme Court had ruled that Mormons had to go to Pentecostal services on Sunday, do you really think he would have shrugged and said, "Oh well, it's the law"?
Romney used the Supreme Court as an excuse. He could just as well have insisted upon a federal Supreme Court appeal and vetoed every bll associated with healthcare until that appeal was held. And refused to enforce its provisions up to and through the point of impeachment.
This is what a principled person does. Why do you exempt Mitt Romney from the requirements of conscience and allow him to hide behind process?
If the apostles had been so weak, Nero would have easily snuffed Christianity out.
You've killed your own credibility, David. I hope whatever you received in return was worth it.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseTeflon, David's gotta make a living. He doesn't care who is really an "Evangelical" or not (hence his remarks here on NRO about how self-identified evangelicals have the same sexual mores as the general population), as long as you don't let the few beliefs you have get in the way of reason. C'mon, let us reason together, eh? Mitt's not so bad. Sure, if you ignore his record in Mass and create your own imaginary world where Mitt will do the right thing (as defined by the latest polls and which audience he is talking to). But blame Mitt, he's rolling in the dough...like I said, don't blame David because he's gotta make a living.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseViva la French(es)! Mitt is my favorite in the race, but my heart will always belong to Rubio and Christy.
Here's why Mitt's Mormonism should NOT be an obstacle for evangelical Christians like me--even those who believe (also like me) that Mormonism is NOT a "Christian" faith by any traditional or orthdox definition. The reason is "common grace"--in other words, according to Matt. 5:45, God causes the sun and rain to fall on the evil and the good, the righteous and unrighteous. In other words, a farmer can benefit from God's common gifts to man--sun and rain--to be a successful farmer whether he is a believer or not. The same is true with the gifts of politics, leadership and economics. One can be gifted by God in those fields regardless of orthodox Christian belief. To be honest (based on what I have read of his writings and dairies), Ronald Reagan was probably more of a deist than an evangelical Christian. Jimmy Carter's (liberal though he was) religious beliefs probably better lined up with orthodox evangelical Christian teaching. Yet, Reagan was a great President and Carter was an awful president. I agree with Martin Luther who is reported to have quipped, "Better to be ruled by a wise Turk, than a foolish Christian." GO MITT!!!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseMr. Conservative, Are you (a) The World, Lite, or (b) the Light of the World? Romney is in unrepentant sin. If this has no relevance to you, and you somehow find comfort in a snippet from Luther instead of the weight of the Word, then you are (a).
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhat's Romney's unrepentant sin?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe only thing that bothers me about this interview - Ms. Lopez (identified as "David") asks if the Frenchs have encountered "anti-Mormonism". The response she gets is that they've met a few who were "anti-Mormon". Those are two different points of view...one against the religion, one against the PERSON. I will give the latter the benefit of the doubt that they were referring to Ms. Lopez's definition, but my son has Mormon friends who seem to be taught (incorrectly) that both terms are the same thing.
I will vote for Gov. Romney if he's the nominee, but I'm so sad to see Gov. Perry (and Rep. Bachmann as well as Mr. Cain) out of the race. Perry's minister confidant, Dr. Robert Jeffress, took a lot of heat for his biblical worldview, but scripturally he's sound and I believe Gov. Perry was as well. What concerns me for our country is that we can't even have an actual discussion of the true definitions (and serious distinctions) between Mormonism and Christianity. Don't get me wrong - defeating Obama and the current Democrats is our urgent crisis-at-hand...there may be an even bigger one we'll have to deal with someday, though.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"...What concerns me for our country is that we can't even have an actual discussion of the true definitions (and serious distinctions) between Mormonism and Christianity. ..."
We can and do have those discussions all the time. There is an active echange between Evangelical and Mormon scholars. Much of that scholarship is available (online) to the public and the public is welcome to participate in the conversation. So, the question is not "Why can't we have this conversation?", the question is whether we should have the conversation as part of the presidential election.
I think the country would benefit from a healthy conversation about the differnces between Mormonisim and historical Christianity. I also think it would be healthy to discuss the differences between Catholisim and Protestantisim. While those conversations could be both interesting and beneficial, I don't think they should play any role in the context of our political discussions.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWaiser, Those "conversations" begin and end with the words "read the Bible." Still, God's Word is so-o inconvenient to creating our own righteousness, isn't it? This is why KJL and other Catholics here at NRO find it so easy to embrace Mormonism. Strongly recommend you converse with Catholics due to mutual enthusiasm for the traditions of men.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI have my disagreements with deism (Thomas Jefferson), Born Again Christianity (George W. Bush), and easily others. People can be nonbelievers and lead, but at the same time, people in the presidency don't have a knack for being the most devout members of their faith either. I have a hard time seeing how with a minority of the population, the armed forces, and even Congress, not to mention the various Mormon Congressmen aren't all exactly political friends either (Harry Reid, Orrin Hatch, and others). There's not a logical threat from politics.
However, my view as a Methodist about Mormonism is that it's in a way a wake-up call in some ways as to how some of us can take our faith for granted, and what some of us can also do to rise back up. We can reasonably compete as a faith from the ground up by principle. No need to be afraid of the mouse in the room when we are the elephants.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBoy, that's a distinction without a difference if I ever saw it. It's unfortunate we have so many people committed to Christ, who can't recognize we don't need to interject religion and politics every chance we get.
What you spend your time doing and arguing for, etc. etc. is your religion. If you find yourself talking more about how bad Romney is rather than being out there serving your fellow man than you've demonstrated your religion is more politics than following Christ.
Back to the point, your argument is a strange variant of love the sin, hate the sinner. So you love Romney, and hate his religion? We get it... except you're parsing words better than the authors of the various creeds... Keep your high level philosophy, dogma, etc. out of politics.
If we have a leader that loves the Lord and has clearly strived to live his life in a manner that reflects that love, it should be good enough for all of us. It was clearly good enough for the Lord himself when he was on the earth.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abusesteate, Without repentance there is no forgiveness. Keep on trying to tell Christians what to believe when you don't even bother to cite the Bible. He came not to bring peace, but a sword. And I shake the dust off my feet whenever I read the notions of dilettante's like you who lack a conviction of sin.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseRomans 13 and 1 Pet 2:13 apply to our attitude towards government: obey except when rulers command contrary to God, then be prepared to suffer. In this election we can choose between Obama, Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum. Which is the "Evangelical" candidate? None. If I vote or choose to stay at home, there is no Biblical mandate here for me to back Romney. Next to Obama, he is the most likely to tickle the ears and compromise according to the latest polls.
It is your interpretation of the situation that is narrow and bigoted: if I don't compromise as eagerly as you do, I am not "loving." The loving thing is to pray for Romney to become a genuine Christian, if you really believe in the Jesus of the Bible (who talked about hell more than anyone else and is The Way). But go ahead, proceed in your smug self-satisfaction and liberal, non-Biblical nostrums about what it means to be a Christian. I do not seek to persuade you at all, carry on in your path (or as Jesus said regarding the Pharisees "Leave them alone"). It is you who tells me how better you are than I, and like all Superior People wants something from me. Go worship your true God, yourself. I just ask that Mr. French, Mr. Prager, and other wise ones and dilettante's stop asking Evangelicals to cease being Evangelicals. Our viewpoint is admittedly distorted by the silly belief that everything we think, say or do is changed by Who We Say He Is. That you are superior to this perspective speaks for itself.
No one has to cease being Evangelical Christians, what mandate dictates which candidate I should vote for? I am a Methodist myself, BTW. As for candidates, don't make a bigger deal than you have to. Any given candidate only has a few years to be in office, and as president term limits make things a little more bearable.
My concern against voting for president Obama, is the fact that if he gets a second term, he is likely to get more annoying, because aside from committing some extremely serious offense, he knows that there's no way to boot him out of office, and he is secured due to re-election. If Romney goes in, he's a fresh new face, and more impressionable, as he just barely made it in, and there's plenty for him to worry about as a politician, if he wants a second term. I could see him being under a great deal of pressure to lead conservative, because that's how he would get in, and that's the kind of crowd who would be pressing him.
As far as praying that God could touch his heart, I wholeheartedly agree, I hope he becomes like Darius or Cyrus, people who didn't know God, but who were impressed and ultimately served the purposes of God when God made his ways known to them through Daniel.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI'm supporting Romney but this post is a little over the top. IIRC, Mr. French has posted here before about his organization and support for Romney. That's all well and good, but this post just seems to be adding more cowbell to positions he has already stated.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThere's never enough cowbell!
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