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Candidates and Combatants

Monday night’s debate featured an exchange between Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum regarding the treatment of American citizens who join with our jihadist enemies to make war against our country. Watching it, I got the impression that Santorum was trying to suggest a wedge between himself and Romney where I don’t think there is one — and perhaps making a play for voters who have been spun up by Ron Paul’s spurious claims about the recently enacted National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). (I addressed those claims in an exchange with the congressman’s son, Sen. Rand Paul, a few weeks back — see here and here).

The answers by both Romney and Santorum to the question posed seemed a bit confused — not really wrong, but incomplete. That is to be expected when candidates are given just a few seconds to address complex issues. 

Romney was asked whether he would have signed the NDAA, as President Obama recently did. The matter is controversial because Paul, like much of the Left, claims it is unconstitutional: It provides for indefinite detention of American citizens if they are found to be enemy combatants. Romney replied that he would have signed the bill, correctly implying that, as the courts have held, American citizens may be detained under the laws of war if they join the enemy during wartime. 

Mitt’s reasoning was not crystal clear. He said that while Americans have every right to express dissent, they do not “have a right to join a group that is killing Americans, and has declared war against Americans. That’s treason. In this country, we have a right to take those people and put them in jail.”

Well, yes, but there’s never been any doubt that treason can result in imprisonment. It is a criminal offense — the only one defined in the Constitution — and it can be prosecuted in the civilian courts. Romney was being asked about military detention. On that score, treason is not the salient point. Nor is it dispositive that al-Qaeda has declared war and is killing Americans — after all, they had declared war against us and started killing Americans years before we began taking military prisoners.

Military detention is legitimate because we are at war and because Congress authorized combat operations right after the 9/11 attacks. This is what invokes the laws of war, under which enemy combatants may be captured and detained indefinitely without trial until the conclusion of hostilities. Congress’s authorization of combat operations necessarily entails the killing and capturing of enemy forces. (Because Congress has authorized military force, there is no need to wrestle with the knottier questions of whether, and under what circumstances, a president may unilaterally order military detention.)

When asked if he wished to respond to Romney, Santorum stated:

First off, I would say this, what the law should be and what the law has been is that if you are a United States citizen and you are detained as an enemy combatant, then you have the right to go to federal court and file a habeas corpus petition and be provided a lawyer. That was the state of the law before the [NDAA] and that should be the state of the law today.
… [I]f you are a citizen and you are being held indefinitely, then you have the right to go to a federal court — and again, the law prior to the [NDAA] was that you had the right to go to a court, and for that court to determine by a preponderance of the evidence whether you could continue to be held. That is a standard that should be maintained and I would maintain that standard as president.

Nothing in Santorum’s answer parts company with Romney. Romney only addressed the fact that the president has the power to detain; he did not delve into the due process owed to the detainee, Santorum’s focus. I’m quite certain Mitt agrees with Rick that an American citizen detained as an enemy combatant has a right to challenge his detention in court. And as for being provided with a lawyer, the courts have strongly suggested that detainees should be given counsel at public expense to challenge their detention, even though there is ordinarily no right to counsel in a habeas case. (As we know, given the legion of lawyers who have volunteered their services to our wartime enemies, the right to counsel has not been much of an issue.)

Santorum is correct that this was the state of the law before the NDAA. It remains the state of the law. By saying it “should” still be the law, Rick implied that there may be cause for concern that the NDAA changed things, but this is not the case.

Under Supreme Court rulings, most recently the Boumediene case, not only American citizen detainees but alien detainees have been given the right to file habeas petitions in federal district court. The Supreme Court somehow found that the U.S. Constitution gave this right to alien terrorists making war against Americans. It is a generally accepted doctrine — one that only Newt Gingrich, among the GOP candidates, has challenged — that when the Supreme Court holds that a right derives from the Constitution, that right may not be repealed by statute. (It would certainly be interesting to know whether Rick and Mitt agree with Newt that the political branches should be able to reverse Supreme Court decisions, but I don’t know that they’ve been asked.)

As it happens, the NDAA attempts no such repeal of detainee rights, but if it had done so, the courts would have struck it down, reasoning that a statute cannot amend the Supreme Court’s construction of the Constitution. So there is no question that U.S. citizens maintain their habeas rights. While Santorum’s commitment to maintain the habeas rights of Americans is admirable, Americans would maintain these rights regardless of the next president’s views. The main point of habeas corpus is to guard against lawless executive action; the protection is guaranteed by the Constitution and does not depend on executive indulgence. 

Finally, a word about Ron Paul, who responded to the Romney/Santorum exchange by saying of the NDAA, “This is major. This says that the military can arrest an American citizen for under suspicion [sic], and he can be held indefinitely, without habeas corpus, and be denied a lawyer indefinitely even in a prison here.”

This is just a demagogic rant — the NDAA says no such thing. The NDAA does not permit the military to arrest anyone inside the U.S. — though the Paul forces constantly repeat that claim, the NDAA says only that enemy combatants will be detained in military custody, not that the military will do the arresting if the combatant happens to be an American citizen captured in the U.S. (Think Jose Padilla, who was detained by the military after being designated an enemy combatant following his arrest by the FBI in Chicago.) The NDAA gives the military no new authority to operate inside our country. Furthermore, as noted above, while detention under the laws of war is “indefinite” in the sense that wars do not come with an end date, all detainees have the right to seek habeas corpus relief from the civilian federal courts and none has been denied counsel for this purpose. 

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   01/18/12 18:42

"I’m quite certain Mitt agrees with Rick that an American citizen detained as an enemy combatant has a right to challenge his detention in court."

You and I saw different debates. Maybe Mitt Romney wanted to say this, but he certainly did not. More likely, he doesn't know what to say on this matter because he's not sure which answer most Republicans want to hear. (So, I'm sure he's grateful that you're yelling him what you think he should say.)

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   01/18/12 18:56

Although I sometimes take exception with your posts on electoral politics, when it comes to clarifying the law as it relates to defense, there is absolutely no one better than you, Mr. McCarthy.

That was a fantastic post.

And, BTW, having just finally gotten around to reading my copy of the January issue of the New Criterion, that was a fantastic essay you had in there as well.

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 EBL
   01/18/12 19:29

External Link  Drudge reports ABC News sitting on damaging interview with Newt Gingrich's ex wife until after S.C. Primary

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   01/18/12 20:11

Marianne Gingrich has said she could end her ex-husband's career with a single interview.

and so it seens: External Link 

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   01/18/12 20:59

"[NDAA] provides for indefinite detention of American citizens if they are found to be enemy combatants."

Wrong. NDAA provides for indefinite detention of American citizens if they are said by the Executive to be enemy combatants.

This is the salient point, and you fudge it. I've read your arguments about the constitutionality of indefinite detention of US citizen enemy combatants, and they are compelling, but you should not obscure the fact that the "finding" you refer to is the ispe dixit of the President, nothing more.

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Matt Bishop
   01/18/12 22:14

Maybe I'm crazy, but it still stuns me to see self proclaimed "conservatives" trying to defend the indefinite detention of American citizens solely on the basis of the President.

It's particularly ironic given that in the last year Mr. McCarthy has made such statements as:

" The Constitution must control the implementation of whatever policy wins the day. Yet it has become necessary to ask whether even this principle, so fundamental to a free, self-determining people, is still unanimously honored."

and

"In other words, if a president is the type of man who couples his hope with audacity, if, despite his oath to uphold the Constitution, he is willing to play Alinsky-style hardball, there is little that can stand in his way. Law becomes a dispositive weapon in the service of an ideological crusade, never a brake against the crusade’s advance. In the Obama administration, “rule of law” talking-points are just rhetorical camouflage. True law is the moral and ethical consensus of a civil society, reflecting the conscience of free and virtuous people. "

One can read at length McCarthy lamenting the President threatening to raise the debt limit, or declaring war on Libya, nationalizing the automakers, etc. He finds these all reprehensible infringements on freedom and the rule of law. Oh the AUDACITY to raise the debt limit! But if the President decides, based on whatever grounds, or no grounds, that he wants to detain someone in a prison during this "war" until he decides not to do so? Well, pshaw, who could find fault in that? After all the President SAID it was ok.

You either believe in freedom or you don't. And simply believing in freedom when it supports your particular political leanings is worse than not believing at all. At least with the latter you're honest.

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Nasty, Solitary, Poor, Brutish, and Short
   01/19/12 08:54

Matt,

Start with Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952).

Here's how Wiki describes Jackson's concurring opinion, which I think it's fair to say as the years have passed has held up as really being the dominant point of view on commander-in-chief powers:

"[He] took a similarly flexible approach to the issue, eschewing any fixed boundaries between Congress' and the President's power. Jackson divided Presidential authority vis a vis Congress into three categories, ranked in descending order of legitimacy: (1) those cases in which the President was acting with express or implied authority from Congress, (2) cases in which Congress had thus far been silent, and (3) cases in which the President was defying congressional orders. He classified this case as falling within the third category."

As I told one of my law profs, the reason Turman had to string together a whole bunch of random quotes was because there was nothing in the Constitution which empowered him to seize a steel mill - even for a strike in war time - while there was a lot in it which tended to forbid such a thing.

Allow me to point out that a mere 13 years later a similar random string of unrelated pharses were strong enough to discover (or create?) sufficient "emanations" from "penumbras" to locate a "right of privacy" in Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965).

Perhaps in a more perfect world law would be simpler and more accessible to everyone. But, in this one, the well grounded work of folks such as McCarthy carries a lot of weight. Here, he has by far the better argument.

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Matt Bishop
   01/19/12 19:08

I'm curious as to why you would call his work "well-grounded", when it seems to be working backwards from the result he desires to reach, as I illustrated. Commander in chief powers used in Libya - overreach. Commander in chief powers used in detaining US citizens - not an overreach.

While I might agree with you on the concurrence, I don't think it makes your case for the commander in chief power vis a vis the detaining of a US citizen. Particularly in light of the Fourth Amendment.

This is not a matter of the law being too obtuse for one to understand. My point is that many people, including Mr. McCarthy, tend to have situational beliefs driven more by politics than principle about the limits of power of the "imperial Presidency".

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Bulldog 82
   01/18/12 23:36

"Military detention is legitimate because we are at war and because Congress authorized combat operations right after the 9/11 attacks."

Andrew, what happens as we wind down combat operations? Are we still at war? Have we actually declared war against an entity and if not, how can the war ever end? Let's face it, technically, aren't we still at war with North Korea?

I am not asking these questions to confuse but out of confusion. Combat authorization was granted to Bush for Afghanistan and Iraq (no debate on war powers please). If combat there ends, does the power to detain go with it? If combat ends in those places and,in 2-years starts up somewhere else (under a newpresident please), do the powers of detention start again? Isn't this just part of the yearly defense authorization?

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AustinDave
   01/19/12 13:19

I am so sick and tired of our Constitution being trampled over. Eraticating 50 Saudi Arabians in caves because our government allowed them to commit murder on our soil (they were warned prior to 9/11 about the pending attack) is not a war with any nation. We daeclared war on Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Afganistan, Yemen and all the other countries that we are dropping bombs on. Hostilities will never end because we are creating martyrs every day as we kill more innocent foreign citizens and occupy more foreign soil with each passing day. Our government is providing the weapons to these people one year and then blowing them up the next. If I were a Mexican citizen, I would contend that the US declared war on me by fascillitating the transfer of weapons to drug lords. Thay are a direct co-conspiritor in the murder of perhaps thousands of Mexican citizens. Do you really believe that there should be no blowback from this? I know what many famillies would do. Aiding a criminal is a criminal offense, no matter where that criminal is from. We are not at war for the defense of THIS country.

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