Via the New York Times:
CAIRO — Egyptian authorities confirmed Saturday that a political coalition dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood, the 84-year-old group that virtually invented political Islam, had won about 47 percent of the seats in the first Parliament elected since the ouster of Hosni Mubarak. An alliance of ultraconservative Islamists won the next largest share of seats, about 25 percent.
The tally, with the two groups of Islamists together winning about 70 percent of the seats, indicates the deep cultural conservatism of the Egyptian public, which is expressing its will through free and fair elections for the first time in more than six decades.
This result only goes to underline the mistake made by Mubarak (an American ally now on trial for his life, a fate that must send an interesting message to other leaders in the region still prepared to work alongside the U.S.) in ceding so much of Egypt’s cultural space to the men in the mosque. Turkey’s Ataturk knew better.
Over at Secular Right Razib Khan has an acid response to this news:
Nevertheless I do recall back in the heady days of the Arab Spring some commenters infected by revolutionary fervor would scoff that the purported Islamist sympathies of the people. What this goes to show is that enthusiasm and hope does not translate into reality. If secular liberals in Egypt bow before the principle of popularity, then they accept that it is right and proper that their present their throats to their new overlords. I don’t view this as an apocalypse. It is what it is. But it was predictable.
The Times notes:
A coalition of parties founded by the young leaders of the revolt that unseated Mr. Mubarak won only a few percent of the seats…
Predictable indeed: Revolutions have been devouring their children for a long time.
If there is any glimmer of hope, however faint, it lies in the divisions between Muslim Brotherhood and the ultras.
The two groups have described very different visions and appear to be rivals rather than collaborators. The Brotherhood has said it intends to respect personal liberties and will focus on economic and social issues, gradually nudging the culture toward its conservative values. By contrast, the ultraconservatives, known as Salafis, put a higher priority on legislation on Islamic moral issues, like the consumption of alcohol, women’s dress and the contents of popular culture.
Even if we accept the Muslim Brotherhood’s reassurances at face value (a stretch, to put it mildly), something (not least their own history) tells me that it will see the greater threat to its position as coming from the Salafists, and will thus tack strongly in their direction.
I hope I’m wrong.
"What this goes to show is that enthusiasm and hope does not translate into reality."
See also, "Obama, Barack"
;-)
Later,
Joe
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseKak raz! Isn't Denial a river in Egypt? Razib Khan says it's not an apocalypse. I hope he's right. But it's either:
-a whole lot more benign than it's looking now;
or
-it's an apocalypse!
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"I hope I’m wrong." You're not. Middle-East now, next stop Eurarbia, tomorrow the world.
But hey, the MSM will still look upon their Muhammad Ali posters from the 1960s with reverence and reassure us, the great unwashed (you know, all of us who went to state colleges) that the real threat comes from the TEA Party/Sarah Palin/people who own pick-up trucks...
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThat article shows how ignorant and stupid New York Times' journalists (e.g. mainstream media journalists) are..."virtually invented political islam..." Islam has always been an all encompassing theology/ideology - from that cursed prophet's first utterances the religion has been a political enterprise. Anyone w/ an ounce of knowledge knows that...and we have the internet if you wanted to do a quick search to make sure you weren't missing anything.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe brotherhood is a moderate group, non-violent and tolerant in its views of other religions and people.
It's not like one could draw a direct line between them and something so noxious as, say, Nazi Germany. ...oh, wait.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseHeck, there goes my chance to post first a comment summoning Nazis.
Having failed that, it should be noted that it has been some years since at least many Muslims have not destroyed one of our buildings. This suggests it might be time we engaged many Muslim factions in some sort of a dialogue. If shows featuring traveling cooks can do it, I am sure the State Dept can summon up the resources to do the same at least in cultural or commercial activities.
I recall in the 80's when this country under President Reagan was well respected. He and his administration did that by engaging all, enemy or foe.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"If there is any glimmer of hope, however faint, it lies in the divisions between Muslim Brotherhood and the ultras."
Hilarious
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOnce again, Obama's plan and efforts at "outreach" to Muslim's appears to be not going so well. I thought when the NASA Administrator was given the task of "Muslim Outreach" the deal would have been sealed and all Muslim nations would have bowed not to Mecca but wherever Obama resided---wonder what went wrong with that plan?
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"Predictable indeed: Revolutions have been devouring their children for a long time."
Correction: Revolutions have been devouring our children for a long time.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYup, let's remember all the spin-offs of the Egyptian Moslem Brotherhood:
The Syrian and Iraqi Ba'ath parties
The PLO and its splinters
Hamas
Al-Queda
Islamic Jihad
al-Husayni, the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who was a close associate of Eichman and Himmler, recruiting the moslem 13th SS-Gebirgsjager Division that implemented the Holacaust in the Balkans,. was closely tied to the founders of the Brotherhood - his agents tried to poison the water supply of Tel Aviv during the second Worls War. Nassar and Sadat were members who tried to start an Egyptian Fifth Column to aid the Germans and Italians to defeat allied forces in Egypt.
Just what good did ANYONE expect to come of a revolution in a country where the Brotherhood was the only organized opposition?
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