I pay a lot of D.C. taxes and get very little to show for it. One of the only concrete services I benefit from is garbage collection. And, all in all, I think D.C. sanitation workers do a very good job. That’s one reason why I have always tipped them come the holidays. It’s also why I was so intrigued by this passage in the Metro section of today’s Washington Post.
Trash collectors are also not allowed to accept tips and gifts, which can lead to awkward interactions with grateful residents such as the woman who approached Bland and Nix’s truck as it idled behind a townhouse development off of Arizona Avenue NW. She tried to hand an envelope to driver and crew chief, Tavis Clinton, 34. It takes some doing before she gives up, gets into her red Prius, and drives off.
The author of the story, Annys Shin, may be too young or naive to understand that the crew chief is not going to violate policy in front of a reporter from the Washington Post. But her editors should know better. Even if they don’t tip the sanitation men, they surely know that it is expected and happens across the city. Indeed, in many areas in Washington the driver of the sanitation truck pounds the horn over and over as he drives through the neighborhood in order to notify residents that the truck is coming and that they should have the yearly gratuity at the ready. Again, I have no problem with any of this, it is hard work done well. I just think it’s amusing the Washington Post tried to pass the trash this way.
I live in Texas and pay very little in taxes for excellent services. I need to make sure we tip the trash guys this Christmas - our guys are great!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseTipping the garbage man? Bizarre.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIn the part of Delaware where I live, we have private trash collection and - shocker - competition. If I don't like the service I'm getting, I pick up the phone and switch trash companies, no tipping required.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI have often reflected that our N.Am. culture, supposedly born and steeped in a free trade, pay-as-you-go philosophy, is relatively free of the culture of gratuities. Compare and contrast much more statist, if not downright socialist, countries where gratuities bump up hard against a definition of bribes, and are the only way to get anything done, even (or especially) from gov't employees who are working for the "people". Two acquaintances, one who lived in Africa and one in S. Am. could never get mail delivered without daily tipping the Postman. Civil servants in both places take it as the right and due of their position to have 'gifts' from those who are 'served' by them. Most people in N.Am. have little constant exposure to tipping other than with waitresses in restaurants.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYeah, Goldberg is a bit of a dangerous enabler here. Bad news to tip public sector employees.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"...in many areas in Washington the driver of the sanitation truck pounds the horn over and over as he drives through the neighborhood in order to notify residents that the truck is coming and that they should have the yearly gratuity at the ready. Again, I have no problem with any of this,..."
Really? Really?!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBelieve you me if my garbage man came down my street pounding his horn demanding a tip ---a tip he would not get. Of course my garbage pickup is done by a private company and I doubt they would dream of doing such a thing.
You say you're overtaxed and underserved and then you tip on top of that? What other government employees do you tip? I can't think of an instance where it even occurred to me to tip someone from the government. Maybe its a regional thing but this practice just seems odd.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseSeems your tip to a government employee is more of a bribe to ensure adequate service. Welcome to the third world.
captcha? "rhyme nor reason"
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhile I lived in DC, it was in a "transitional" neighborhood, and trash service was adequate--and nothing special. I never saw anyone tip the garbagemen--I certainly didn't. None of my blue-collar black neighbors did. Maybe that's something that only happens (and is expected) in the tonier DC zip codes.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe base problem might be tipping people for a "job well done". I expect a job to be well done. I expect them to be competent. Did this idea of tipping someone for merely doing their job come from the school culture of rewarding mediocrity? I guess this is the equivalent of the "Attendance Award" in elementart school.
BTW, we tip the wait staff because their wage structure is based on tipping (something I have an issue with. Why wouldn't you properly reward the point-of-customer-contact?). Why would I tip a Union employee who is probably getting paid a lot better then 1/2 the residents in the city?
Maybe I should start tipping my mail carrier. Lord knows the system stinks where I live. I just don't know if it would improve things or make her think she is doing a great job and she "misplaces" more of my mail!
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhy does my favorite NRO writer live in DC and not in Virginia, where men are free from government trash services?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhen I was in early elementary grades, I lived in an eastern city. My parents, and probably everyone whom they knew, were dropouts; the jobs were in trades or factory line work. Ike was president.
Being of smaller than average stature for a male was tragic for me, in that when I grew up (and presumably dropped out), I wouldn't b able to get a job with the city as garbageman. In those days, the metal trash can were big, and there was no robot arm to lift them into the truck. They had to be lifted and emptied by hand: two workers walking in back of a truck that was usually driven by someone who knew the Irish machine at city hall (I'm not Irish, either). That was a good job. Garbagemen drove Buicks.
Where I live now, garbage collection is contracted out to one of several large private companies that bid for the contract. Often there is only one worker, the driver, with a robot arm that lifts the small brown plastic bins and dumps them automatically. If overflowing, or trash on the side, it won't be taken. Judging from appearance and language, I've yet to see a trash collector who appeared to be born in the USA. Are Buicks still manufactured?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI am astounded that you see nothing wrong with tipping public employees. There are reasons why it is not a good idea. To begin with, it quickly can become a shakedown. Are there any veiled threats if someone doesn't tip? Does their garbage somehow not get picked up for a week or two?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI live in D.C., and I have never heard of tipping the garbage man, ever. I'll ask around, but I would love some kind of source for this, Jonah... it seems like garbage.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI grew up in Chicago, (No stranger to municipal "tips," let me tell you) and we never tipped the garbagemen. If the truck driver had honked the horn going down the street we wouldn't have called the police, but we would've called the alderman's office.
I live in the suburbs now, and tipping the garbagemen never even crosses my mind. It must be an east coast thing.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseYou tip your garbage man?
You think it's expected?
That's insane!
It would still be insane even if they weren't highly paid already through your taxes.
I did it once, and even as a non-driver from a temp agency I got $16/hour, and that was about 15 years ago.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWhen my son was a youngster he'd wait on summer days with an ample supply of Mountain Dew for the garbage men. You better believe we got some scrapbook pages out of that.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThis is Jonah's opening shot to begin softening the culture to where people start tipping bloggers.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOh, come on Jonah! You just made this post so this ( External Link
) scene from the Soprano's is not repeated at your house.
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