I have often been on the receiving end of Patrick Buchanan’s American Conservative magazine attacks, especially in the old days of the surge. I thought his book on World War II made little, if any sense. But all that said, we all must deplore that Buchanan was booted from MSNBC, and recognize why it happened now. Yes, he has another controversial book out, but most of his critics have not read it, and it is no more inflammatory than his other work. He certainly says or writes little that is any more extreme than others at that network (an Al Sharpton or Chris Matthews, for example; the former has incited violence, the latter in gleeful fashion predicted “someone” might blow up Rush Limbaugh). Buchanan’s personal life is as sterling as most in the business are suspect. Why, then, is he now a liability? During the Iraq War, Buchanan was a valuable paleo/libertarian critic of the war who helped MSNBC cement the image of an adrift Bush, and was roundly criticized by both left and right. In those days, Buchanan’s anti-Bush rhetoric on the war, and to a lesser extent on his excessive spending, was inseparable from his leftist co-guests, and allowed MSNBC to claim to be “fair and balanced.” But now, were he to continue a libertarian attack on the war in Afghanistan or the War on Terror, it would be a de facto criticism of Obama who embraced or expanded all those policies, which is why MSNBC went from covering Guantanamo as a veritable gulag to complete silence on everything from predators to renditions.
Now that there is no Bush to criticize, and given that Obama did not turn out to be a left-wing version of a Ron Paul isolationist, anything Buchanan might say about foreign policy will be critical of Obama — and he will probably say it well and often, given that he is better read, sincere in his convictions, and more informed than the other guests. The Obama agenda at home is the antithesis of everything Buchanan has ever said or written. In the network’s view, the days of Buchanan as a useful idiot are over; and now, in a changed climate, he offers no utility at all.
So a book here, a quip there — it wouldn’t matter what the written or oral pretext, since as the election heats up and Obama stays on the razor’s edge, a guy like Buchanan had become a lose-lose proposition. Note I omit any mention of fairness, loyalty, professionalism, or balanced analyses, since these are issues that matter nothing to the network; but surely Buchanan knew the transient mutually beneficial arrangements when he signed on — and which would abruptly cease when no longer beneficial to either of the parties?
Victor takes too long to say it (as is his wont) but his analysis is dead-on. Once Obama took over, Buchanan's usefulness to MSNBC was over. So they were just waiting for a pretext to give him the heave-ho.
I'm no fan of Buchanan on just about any issue. But his stay at MSNBC was bound to end sooner or later once Bush was gone. Buchanan is no dummy, so he must have known this.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAgreed. But I'm sure he was well paid and MSNBC gave his a platform to express his views. What more could a pundit want?
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"What more could a pundit want?"
An audience, too.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseTouche. My point is just that Buchanan was using MSNBC as much as vice versa. And either of them would have taken a better offer if one were available.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseDo you have any evidence for your allegation?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWould logical, informed inference work?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseMr. Buchanan within the GOP, like Roger Maris’ asterisk is a record recounted with reservation.
Truth be stated, Buchanan was fortunate to escape the MSNBC frenzy and get out without being bitten.
I like very much Mr. Hanson’s view that now that Mr. Obama has the ensign of the policy, Buchanan’s role as useful scold was at its end.
Mischief and enemies seldom produce smiles.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBuchanan's views have little support among American voters. He wasn't there to provide ideological balance - if talking heads represented the various political factions in this country, there wouldn't be room for Buchanan on a five person panel.
Buchanan was on TV because he's great on TV - an extremely astute analyst and entertaining speaker. But talent can only do so much, it was still weird to have such fringe beliefs given so much air time on political talk shows. By "fringe" I mean there isn't one senator, representative or governor of either party, or even former politicians, party activists etc. who agree with his core philosophy.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"But talent can only do so much, it was still weird to have such fringe beliefs given so much air time on political talk shows."
Yeah, but when Bush was around, Buchanan could be relied on for anti-Bush whacks (sorry). Once Dubya departed, MSNBC had no use for Buchanan. So he was bound to go sooner or later, entertainment value notwithstanding.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseDoes anything on MSNBC have support with American voters? Their ratings are less than public access. If that was the test for their programming, MSNBC would be off the air tomorrow.
Buchanan simply became inconvenient for them and their ideological tilt during an election year.
Unfortunately, there are too many fringe Democrats - most of them in government - who agree with Rev Al and Chris Matthews' core "philosophies," if you can even categorize the crap they sell as "philosophy."
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"most of them in government "
That's not very fringe if their views are represented in government. There isn't anyone in government (and almost no one out of it) who stands with Buchanan.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseNo one cares about the Buchanan issue because "a tree falling in the woods and noise" and all. MSNBC's ratings are dogs compared to Sanford & Son reruns. It's just not a big deal to anyone, but reinforces the fact that MSNBC is a left-driven network afraid of strong differing opinions.
There are plenty of fringe characters in government who convinced a small portion of the public to vote for them (or a like-thinking president to appoint them). Doesn't make their views any less fringe.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"Doesn't make their views any less fringe."
Well yeah, it kind of does. For every left-wing viewpoint expressed on MSNBC, there are actual voters supporting them. There are congressmen who agree with the positions espoused by Maddow, Sharpton, Matthews, etc.
There is no political movement of any kind organized around Buchanan's beliefs in this country. Not a congressman, not a grassroots movement, nothing. Buchanan is a hard right conservative who was against the Iraq war and is extremely critical of Israel (he is explicitly not a Zionist). You couldn't fill a minivan with Buchananites.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIsn't Ron Paul a congressman?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThere are congressmen who agree with the positions espoused by Maddow, Sharpton, Matthews, etc.
Exactly my point. Buchanan sells a lot of books - doesn't make his views legit (as VDH points out). The fact these congressman were able to get themselves elected by appealing to left wing nutters does not suddenly mean that the fringe views of Sharpton, Matthews and the rest of the MSNBC zoo are suddenly mainstream or make them any less loathesome characters.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOh I see, you think anyone you disagree with is on the fringe. But that's not what that word means. Those congressmen got themselves elected by appealing to VOTERS.
There isn't a district in the U.S. that would elect a right-wing anti-Zionist.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe fact that someone gets themselves elected by appealing to fringe elements, does not make them any less fringe.
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"Not a Zionist" that's putting it mildly. Lest we forget WFB bounced Buchanan and Joe Sobran from National Review for their unrepentant antisemitism. Cordially, Bill
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIf you can con someone into voting for you, that proves your views are not fringe?
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseExplain Cynthia McKinney.
"You couldn't fill a minivan with Buchananites."
He almost got enough votes to throw Florida to Gore.
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