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Arlen or Nothing

This gentleman attempts to figure out the problem with Mitt:

In 2008 I wasn’t on Team Romney but I didn’t hate him either. This time around I hate him with a burning passion. I’ve been trying to figure out why and I think last night’s debate finally clarified it for me. Romney is an internet troll.

We’ve all been in the comment section of a blog when some idiot comes along and starts making outlandish statements that derails the conversation…

As Exhibit A, he cites this response:

And let me — let me — let me mention one more — the reason we have Obama Care — the reason we have Obama Care is because the Senator you supported over Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania, Arlen Specter, the pro- choice Senator of Pennsylvania that you supported and endorsed in a race over Pat Toomey, he voted for Obama Care. If you had not supported him, if we had said, no to Arlen Specter, we would not have Obama Care. So don’t look at me. Take a look in the mirror.

As Drew muses:

Wait, what? How about we blame Specter’s parents. I mean, if they hadn’t had him, he wouldn’t have grown up to be a lousy Senator.

If Specter’s father hadn’t emigrated from Russia after the Revolution, he would never have met Specter’s mother, and the cause of our woes would never have been born! A butterfly flaps its wings on the Steppes and nine decades later Harry Reid is federally subsidizing cowboy poetry festivals. Coincidence?

Rich suggests Mitt is quite effective at such moments. I doubt it, not with the broader audience. He’s “effective” mainly because these are such stilted non-debate formats moderated by leaden plonkers. I’m in Australia as I write, and I can assure you such complete twaddle wouldn’t pass muster at Prime Minister’s Question Time in Canberra. And, if it’s so effective, how come it’s barely enough to get the “front-runner” from one eve-of-primary dead-cat bounce to the next?

I’m a Pat Toomey fan, if only because he’s one of the least unreal senators when it comes to the abyss we’re sliding towards. It’s embarrassing that Santorum made a very Romneyesque calculation in 2004, at a time when no one had ever heard of an obscure Illinois legislator called Barack Obama. Meanwhile, Romney enacted legislation that in its view of the citizen’s subordination to the state is philosophically indistinguishable from Obamacare — in every respect that matters.

Romney this week:

There was no requirement in Massachusetts for the Catholic Church to provide morning-after pills to rape victims.

Romney six years ago:

On December 8, 2005 Romney reversed the legal opinion of his own State Department of Public Health, instructing all Catholic hospitals and others to provide the chemical Plan B “morning after pill” to rape victims.  He was quoted as saying, “I think, in my personal view, it’s the right thing for hospitals to provide  information and access to emergency contraception to anyone who is a  victim of rape.”

Did Arlen Specter, fresh from having been endorsed by Rick Santorum, fly up to Boston and spike Mitt’s chocolate malt? Can we get the shuttle manifests from late 2005?

Does even Romney believe this drivel as he says it? Or, more to the point, do he and his advisers believe a shtick that’s barely working now will work against Obama?

UPDATE: On the other hand, let’s not overlook his surefire popular touch.

New on The Corner. . .


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   02/24/12 15:13

Mitt is pandering on two levels this time.
FIrst, what is his evidence that absent Santorum's endorsement, Toomey would have won?
Second, what is his evidence that had Toomey been in the Senate, ObamneyCare still would have not passed? Other Republican "moderates" were waiting in the wing for news that Obama would buy their vote.

I supported Romney over McCain in 2008, but would stay home if he wins this time. I might have been willing to overlook his continued support of RomneyCare, but the way he and his supporters have treated their fellow Republicans is completely and utterly unacceptable.

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   02/24/12 16:34

Staying home is a vote to keep Obama in office.

If you want Obama to have another four years, you're not a conservative.

I'll vote for a whoever the nominee is, Romney, Santorum, or even God-forbid Newt.

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   02/25/12 13:34

Read A Choice not an Echo. The issue of the inauthentic Republican has been around at least since the 1964 Goldwater campaign, Schlafly writes at length about "Establishment" Republicans who meet secretly to make all the important decisions. This group morphs into the Trilateral Commission under David Rockefeller. She contrasts these "Country Club" Republicans with "Movement" Republicans like Goldwater.

Reagan was a Movement Republican as is the Tea Party. All these "real" conservatives fear the secret meetings and agendas of the Establishment.

On major issues Movement conservatives don't compromise. Establishment types are swayed by other considerations like party loyalty. The Santorum endorsement of Specter was solely on the basis of party loyalty. Embarrassing.

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   02/24/12 15:22

If you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

The ABR crowd is just mad because they're getting a taste of their own medicine with these ridiculous purity tests.

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   02/24/12 16:38

That's why the Specter-Toomey attack is completely fair. Santorum has presented himself as an uncompromised conservative and Romney as a liberal. Neither representation is true.

All politicians even the conservative ones compromise to survive. Santorum did it with his pacts over the years with Specter. Romney did it in 85% democratic Massachusetts with that stupid health care law.

Santorum is a good man. But I have no reason to believe that if Santorum had been governor of Massachusetts, he would have governed any more conservatively than Romney.

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   02/24/12 17:41

Watch out or your comment might be deleted if you mention "purists."

ABO 2012.

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Daniel Hoffman
   02/24/12 23:25

Smoke Stack,
Correct. It has moved the conversation from the only one with principles to "well, we all have to make compromises", thus beginning to unravel the myth of a puritanical candidate who argues he is, well, more puritanical than the rest. Additionally, the Specter endorsement was especially stinging because many of us pro-life, Pennsylvania Catholics who were ardent supporters of Santorum felt particularly betrayed from within our own ranks. It was his one chance to demonstrate national level leadership and he chose to follow the "establishment" which was leading the Party to utter defeat. Let's not forget, he was the Whip and had a leadership role and, therefore, a high level of responsibility for the devastating losses of 2006 and 2008.

That being said, maybe the ABRs should reconsider overreacting to every example of Romney making a decision which was less than perfect now that the shine is off their particular apple.

God bless,
Dan Hoffman

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Ben Sauer
   02/24/12 15:25

There is some dispute about the legitimacy of the quote from the Boston Catholic Insider source. The reader is advised to check the comments there before believing it.

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   02/24/12 15:25

Not long ago, Romney charged Santorum with hypocrisy for endorsing Romney himself in 2008. Santorum could say "And I'll endorse you again over Obama if you get the nomination this year. Will you endorse me if I get it?"

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   02/24/12 15:31

What the utterly worthless Mark Steyn and his moronic "gentleman" really object to, is that Mitt Romney is applying the same standard to Newt and Santorum that Steyn and his worthless ilk wish to apply to Romney.

The anti-Romney morons search high and low for "evidence" to suspect Mitt's "faux conservatism."

That many of these Grand Inquisitors and Torquemada wanna-bes actually endorsed Romney 4 years ago isn't lost on Ann Coulter or anyone with commonsense.

No, they demand to drum Romney out of the party and just hate it with venomous passion when Mitt turns their "logic" on its ear and gets to the right of their chosen "real conservative."

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   02/24/12 16:47

Exactly.

Argue that Santorum is a better nominee if you want. You might even convince me enventually.

But don't tell me that Romney is suddenly a liberal when just four years ago conservatives across the country from Santorum to Limbaugh were pushing him as the conservative alternative to McCain. Romney hasn't exactly moved left since then.

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ttfn
   02/24/12 23:48

perhaps McCain was further to the left?

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Emery
   02/24/12 17:45

They don't search high and low. They merely look at his records, past statements, and past. What they find is not very conservative. It's left-centrist.

Then the pro Romney crowd objects to their findings or twist themselves into knots trying to explain Romney's past in terms of Romney being a conservative.

Romneycare REALLY happened. It really was used as a model for Obamacare to follow. It really did cost Massachusetts a lot of money with little positive result. And Romney really suggested a minimum wage that automatically increases as inflation rises.

Calling that kind of stuff conservative doesn't work. Pointing out that Romney's opponents aren't conservative either doesn't make Romney conservative.

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gdtkona
   02/29/12 08:04

You make a good point. It just seems with four years to prepare for this campaign he still seems so, as Robert Redford put it, plastic and often caught off guard by questions that are easily anticipated.

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   02/24/12 15:32

Internet troll....classic.

I have seen that exact line of argument used in these comments a few times.

Santorum supported Specter in the primary and now we have Obamacare. But of course. It's 100% Rick's fault

That gives pause as to the sort of intellect Mr. Inevitable applies to cause/effect issues. No wonder he and Ron (Muslims attacked us because we are engaged in the ME) Paul get along so well.

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   02/24/12 16:44

No, Santorum is not 100% responsible for Obamacare. Nice scarecrow argument. That's not what Romney said in the debate.

But Romneycare has less responsibility for Obamacare than Specter has.

Romneycare was stupid in its own right. But it did not inspire or form the basis for Obamacare. Buying that Axelrod argument is just silly.

Obama and Hillary debated the finer points of their health care bills for a year. Both were based on variations of the 90s Hillarycare. Neither as based on anything that was happening in the states much less something that was designed by the Heritage Foundation.

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   02/24/12 15:34

Mark, they're all lying sacks of poop. It's so easy to find examples, and you're not wrong to bring them to our attention. But there's degrees of stink.

Should Mitt be nominated, and win the white house with a GOP congress, we will be in a more hopeful position than Obama winning.

If the GOP wins in 2012 and does not make changes necessary to turn our situation around, then the party is indeed as useless as many fear it already is. But at least we'll know and can act accordingly. Surely they would know it's their last chance to show results. If we at least get decent SCOTUS picks it's worth it because that will set the court for 20 or so years, essential to have in place for a rebuilding period.

Reelecting Obama is too disastrous to ponder.

2012: Vote GOP, Perhaps for the Last Time - It's Up to Them!

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   02/24/12 15:36

Do us all a favor Steyn:

Go on Fox on Tuesday night and argue with tears in your eyes, (much like you did after Romney won New Hampshire), that Romney's victory over Santorm doesn't matter because Romney's father was governor there some 40 years ago.

Then sputter on with Bill Kristol how Romney's large victory in Arizona is all due to the "nefarious Mormon influence."

That ought to be a real boost to your already shaky credibility there Steyn....not too mention causing me hours of mirth and laughter at your teary eyed expense...

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 Rook
   02/24/12 15:40

I use to like Mark Steyn, but these days he just sounds like Mark Levin--foaming at the mouth with windy outrage. The wit is long gone.

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   02/24/12 15:58

I agree Rook.

Steyn appears to have gotten Oxycontin brain from hanging around Limbaugh too much.

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