A source sends NRO the Republican National Committee’s latest official delegate count. Of the 383 delegates allocated so far, 118 are Mitt Romney’s, 29 are Newt Gingrich’s, 17 are Rick Santorum’s, eight are Ron Paul’s, and 211 are unbound. In an email to RNC members, the staff writes, “Please keep in mind that these numbers do not reflect any potential delegate disputes and this information may change based on the results that come in after the initial vote that may affect the delegate count.” This seems like a veiled reference to the dispute in Michigan, where state-party officials have voted to give Romney both of its two at-large delegates, despite promising to divide them between him and Santorum earlier.
There is No Dispute in MI. I watched CNN Tues Night go over fact that statewide winner would be given 2 delegates. Here's an article prior to MI Primary. Santorum is crying like a liberal it's not very becoming. External Link
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseCNN lies, and therefore it's OK.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe rules before the vote was that you had to break 50% to get both at-large delegates. After the vote, because their guy didn't break 50%, they changed the rule.
There is NO Delegate Dispute in MI
CNN covered this Tuesday evening that statewide winner would be given 2 delegates.
Here's an article prior to March 28 stating same.
Santorum comes across as a whiny crybaby liberal. It really is not becoming. I guess when you robocall (D) and union thugs to come vote for you and have Daily Koss & DNC rooting for you the liberal whiny thing rubs off.
CNN 13 Day Delegate Predictor
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Um...it's a veiled threat about Michigan?
How about it is a recognition that 79 of those "official" 118 Romney delegates will be protested if necessary. AZ and FL violated the rules with winner take all.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAren't Florida's delegates being disputed on the basis of party rules requiring that primaries held that early be proportional rather than winner-take-all? Depending on what system of proportionality replaced the winner-take-all, that could shift a substantial number of delegates to Gingrich and possibly a few to Santorum.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseFlorida already got penalized for moving their primary up, by losing half of their delegates. With the remaining delegates, they awarded them as winner-takes-all. They can't give them two penalties. Apportioned, or halved.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseUnder the rules that existed at the time of the voting, the delegates were cut in half and they were required to apportion proportionally. Just because the rules don't benefit your candidate is not sufficient reason to ignore them.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWith the proviso that the rules have to be constitutional, which Virginias are probably not. Anyone heard anything about that lawsuit?
Wrote this in an earlier thread that got buried by the many Brietbart tributes.
There is a question on the table for the Romney faithful. None bothered to answer..
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This 'unbound' delegate argument is getting tiring. Every delegate count such as RCP or the AP shows delegates assigned to the candidate. Yes, they aren't 'bound' but the narrative is being spun that winning any of these caucus states (and there are 16 of them) is meaningless. Apparently Republicans in 16 states have no input on the nominee then.
As to Wyoming, I am seeing a 10-8-6-1 split with 4 unknown.on RCP. I heard 10-9-6-1 with 3 unknown from a different source. So that is the general ballpark. The delegate total scorecards we watch are all going up by these amounts. These votes count.
However, I would like to see the Romney faithful go on record about Washington before the vote Saturday. We see Mitt has no problem pointing to Wyoming as another win in the streak, putting it right alongside Michigan and others. We see that Mitt is flying to Washington (tomorrow I think) to campaign.
Yet, WA too is a nonbinding caucus. So will the Romney fans gives us a ruling today, before he either wins or loses, as to this race. Nobody wants to read later, after a Romney loss, the same tired 'it does not matter and Mitt did not try because he knows it does not matter' sour grapes.
Thanks in advance...
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseRomney supporter here. Sen Santorum started this latest mixup. If the delegate count determines the winner, then Santorum did not win IA. Ignoring the fact that it should be impossible to declare a winner when the votes for 8 precints go missing after Romney was declared the winner, by Sen Santorum's logic, IA was a 3-way tie: 7 delegates to Santorum; 7 delegates to Romney; 7 delegates to Paul.
The problem with these caucuses is that the actual delegates are selected at later state conventions which are not bound by the results of the caucus results. Go look at what Paul has been saying about what is going to happen at the ME state convention later this year.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIn IA, the delegates are unbound, so the IA delegates aren't even in anyone's column.
It's amazing how ignorant your average Romney supporter is.
I don't see you complaining about Maine, which Romney won but only after the caucuses in Paul districts were prevented from voting in the first place.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI find the RNC more repulsive every day. This imaginary delegate 'count' is not even worth further comment.
For a sincere effort at a realistic delegate count, see Real Clear Politics. The A.P. total is not entirely worthless either, but RCP is better.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThere are multiple news articles dated before the MI primary was held reporting that the 2 at-large delegates were to be awarded to the winner of the popular vote. So, please do not foment unnecessary ill will among the supporters of the two candidates:
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“February 27, 2012, 9:34 pm
Examining Michigan’s Delegate Math
By NATE SILVER
Twenty-eight of the 30 delegates in Michigan’s Republican primary will be awarded, two at a time, to the winner in each of the state’s 14 Congressional districts; only two will go to the candidate who takes the most votes statewide.
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Another article:
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Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAn example of the dynamics of these new rules will be on full display in the next Republican primary in Michigan on February 28th. Michigan hosts an open primary where any registered voter, regardless of party preferences, can participate. The state has a total of 30 delegates. The statewide winner will get two. The remaining 28 Michigan delegates will be chosen 2-by-2 in winner-take-all by individual congressional district contests.
Because the media did a poor job of reporting the rules, we should ignore the fact that Romney partisans voted to change the rules after the voting was completed?
The rule was that the winner would get both at-large delegates, only if he broke 50%. Romney didn't.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseBy the rules, AZ and FL, which account for most of the Romney delegates, should have been proportional, not winner take all.
Then again, as we learned in Michigan, the RNC won't something as trivial as rules stand in the way of their guy winning.
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