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Oak & Iron



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Today’s Between the Covers podcast is with Ronald D. Utt, author of Ships of Oak, Guns of Iron: The War of 1812 and the Forging of the American Navy. We discuss the claim of Charles Francis Adams that the War of 1812 made the United States a world power, what the war has been so neglected, and legacy of the Battle of Lake Erie, whose bicentennial is almost upon us.



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