I concur on the Frum piece–an outstanding and fully deserved takedown. Derb: Would like to respond to your point about immigration. I’m basically with Jonah on the merits, which is to say I’m supportive of immigration (though I’d make big changes to the way we select immigrants), so perhaps my view is worth taking with a grain of salt. The only possible way in which paleos advance the cause of restriction is that by appearing so nutty–so completely hateful and whacked out–that they create some breathing room for responsible restrictions, such as the people at the Center for Immigration Studies. In other words, they give folks like Mark Krikorian the ability to say, “I’m for restriction, but I’m not like those people.” At the end of the day, however, I’m not sure this is much of an advantage. I think responsible restrictionists wind up having to spend too much time disassociating themselves with the paleos and their ilk. Finally, since when is immigration restriction a paleocon idea? This one hardly belongs to them, even though they’re all for it.