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Tom Daschle (D-France)
Daschle speaks from the heart:
“I’m saddened,” Daschle, D-South Dakota, said in a speech to the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. “Saddened that this president failed so miserably at diplomacy that we’re now forced to war. Saddened that we have to give up one life because this president couldn’t create the kind of diplomatic effort that was so critical for our country. But we will work, and we will do all we can to get through this crisis like we’ve gotten through so many.”
Um let’s be clear: If we had a diplomatic triumph at the UN, if Bush succeeded completely, we would still be going to war! We just would have the French and other UN members fighting with us. Does Daschle think that the only definition of diplomatic success is Saddam willingly disarming?
Ramesh: Welch makes perfectly legitimate points and I agree that the dead children number was always — in all likelihood — outrageously inflated. But let me offer a couple objections.
First, so what if UNICEF never used the word “containment”? Containment is a catchall for, among other things, the no-fly-zones, sanctions, the oil-for-food program etc. In fact, the word “containment” has only really come into wide usage in the last few months, from what I can tell, as anti-war types have discovered they can sound tough by adopting the formerly hawkish position viz a viz Iraq and the Soviets. As you well know, none of these people favored “containment” or sanctions prior to 9/11.
Second, when Welch headlines his piece “When the Hawks Co-Opt the Doves Bullsh*t Math” I think he and you miss the reason so many hawks liked Mead’s piece. Or, not wanting to speak for my fellow raptors, why I liked the piece. Mead argues the case for war on the doves own terms, using the doves own “facts” and logic. Much like Jonathan Chait’s excellent TNR piece making the liberal case for war, I enjoy it whenever conservatives win the argument on our terms and their terms.
The British poet Philip Larkin (1922-1985) wrote a poem called “Myxomatosis,” which was the name of an animal disease deliberately introduced by British scientists to cull the rabbit population. The poem is written in the voice of a man (Death) approaching a fevered, dying and unaware rabbit, to put it out of its misery.
Caught in the centre of a soundless field
While hot inexplicable hours go by
What trap is this? Where were its teeth concealed?
You seem to ask.
I make a sharp reply,
Then clean my stick. I’m glad I can’t explain
Just in what jaws you were to suppurate
You may have thought things would come right again
If you could only keep quite still and wait.
This poem, its last two lines in particular, make me think of all the hopeful people in Europe and North America who believe that the deadly scourge of Islamofascism armed with weapons of mass destruction can be fended off without having to fight.
From a Vietnam Vet
Under the subject header “Thanks”:
For calling my Dad and I ‘the best’ (as in “Our best died in Korea and Vietnam because of containment.”), though obviously Dad and I didn’t die. But you reveal yourself there… ‘they’ don’t believe ‘Our best’ died there. Just the chumps and ignorant crackers and exploited minorities – and neanderthals like Dad and I who were their officers. The true ‘best’ avoided the war.
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Re The Chickenhawk Thing
From a reader in the military:
As you know, the whole “chicken hawk” thing is BS. Just a way for the champions of “free speech” to stifle debate. I have a simple answer for anybody trying the chicken hawk routine — “OK, fine, then you can never discuss the economy or taxes if you haven’t tried to start a business”.
On the whole, I’d still rather have lunch with Rush than John Kerry.
Walter Russell Mead
When I read his Washington Post op-ed arguing that containment, via sanctions, was harder on the Iraqis than a war would be, I had two questions: 1) Given all the bogus figures that have been thrown around as estimates of the human toll of sanctions, should I trust Mead’s numbers? 2) What would Matt Welch, who wrote a careful article about those estimates last year, think about Mead’s piece? A lot of (my fellow) hawks have sung Mead’s praises since the op-ed appeared. Now Welch has responded to him. The answers to my questions turn out to be 1) no, and 2) not much.
From a Canadian Reader
The issue of 30 Canadian troops is far more serious than you might think.How can the US allow Canadian officers and troops train with their military if they might disappear? How can our forces be interoperable if we are unreliable? Will NORAD survive, or will the US defend itself?
There has been a major break between these two countries. While BUsh has decided to be an active player in the world, Chretien has shrugged and nitpicked. Whenever the US asks something of Canada, like tightening continental border security, the PM doesn’t even give them an answer, which is worse than saying no. Maybe you can trade us to Europe for Britain.
Canada and the EU deserve each other.
Jack Straw On The French
And significantly, Mr. Speaker, in all the discussions in the Security Council and outside, no one — no one — has claimed that Iraq is in full compliance with the obligations placed upon it.
Given this, it was my belief up to about a week ago that we were close to achieving the consensus which we sought on the further resolution. Sadly, Mr. Speaker, one country then ensured that Security Council could not act.
President Chirac’s unequivocable announcement Monday last that France would veto a second resolution containing this or any ultimatum whatever the circumstances inevitably created a sense of paralysis in our negotiations. And I deeply regret that France has thereby put to a Security Council consensus beyond reach.
Ted Kennedy Vs. Saddam Hussein
They’re both getting bombed on St. Patrick’s Day.
Is laying it all out for the House of Commons right now. Turn on your CNN or Fox.
Turkey: On Second Thought
While it would have been nice if the Turks were behind us from the get-go, it’s nice to see that when the Security Council hits the fan, some countries get serious and come to our aid. They may be a day late and a lira short, but better late than never too.
Israelis Kill Four-Year-Old
In an operation today to arrest a member of the Islamic Jihad hiding out in Gaza, Israeli troops were fired on by the man. A fierce gun battle erupted when the suspect started shooting at Israeli soldiers, who returned fire. In the melee, a four-year-old child was killed while huddling with her parents in their house. Unlike the Rachel Corrie case, in which a grown woman put herself into a war zone trying to stop a military operation, this one is truly sad. But it was not intentional, and besides, whose fault is it? The jihadi terrorist, that’s who. If the Palestinians want this kind of thing to cease, they must stop supporting suicide bombers and their kind.
A Day Later, a Lira Short
APNewsAlert ANKARA, Turkey _ Top Turkish leaders say government will urgently take action toward allowing in U.S. troops.
No link yet.
Oh No: Down to 249,970 Troops
Canada’s Chretien will not allow its 30 military personnel currently in the Gulf to participate in an invasion of Iraq.
How should we handle ourselves in an occupied Baghdad? If we delegate too much authority to Saddam’s Baath Party bureaucrats and their minions, there could be serious trouble. Up to now, this issue has been approached as a question of whether and how, over the coming years, to democratize Iraq. But Martin Kramer points out that big problems may come immediately on the heels of an invasion. If history is any guide, unless the United States quickly gains control of local policing, score settling and massacres will follow. That could easily tarnish even a successful invasion.