For a movement that prides itself as “progressive,” today’s Left is notably ignorant of progress.
Michigan’s left-wing Detroit Free Press editorial page Sunday embraces federal subsidies for rich greens from Solyndra to GM under the guise that they are a key to something the Freep deems “the leadership of the post-carbon economy.”
This is religion, not economics. There is no such thing as “the post-carbon economy” any more than there is a post-newspaper economy (or does the Free Press propose taxpayer dollars for its own digital ventures as it phases out its most profitable business, newsprint?). Indeed, the energy revolution of the moment is in carbon (as Daniel Yergin reports on the Wall Street Journal editorial page today) — the natural gas fracking and oil-shale revolutions that have opened whole new fields of cheap carbon energy.

Manufacturing superpowers like Michigan (the nation’s 9th biggest producing state) and the U.S. (30 percent of global GDP) run on cheap carbon — not expensive windmills. And despite President Obama’s dismissal of the shale & frack revolution, the U.S. is leading a dramatic rise in domestic carbon production. That is, U.S. dependence on foreign oil is in decline — but not due to the millions that Obama has “invested” in alternatives.
No, the domestic boom is coming in spite of him. And the Left is utterly ignorant of this development.
The Free Press has traditionally thrown fits over the military-industrial complex’s overspending on big weapons programs like the B-2 bomber, but now shrugs off green-industrial complex abuses like Solyndra and Beacon Power. At least Pentagon technologies are the world leaders in government’s core responsibility: national defense.
But Detroit’s advocate for market socialism really shows its ignorance when it comes energy history. “Ideological purists (i.e., capitalists) . . . are forgetting how aggressive the federal government has been in subsidizing the oil and natural gas industries over the last half-century.”
Huh?
Gasoline beat out electric and steam-powered autos in the 20th century — not because they were subsidized by Washington — but because the market determined that oil was the best fuel source. The same phenomenon is happening today. It’s easy to predict the future when you are blind to the past.
Thanks Henry...FYI...the comments to the Freep article that you linked to pretty much blast the editors and the green movement.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseAnyone who doesn't think there's a "post-newspaper" economy hasn't been paying attention to circulation and ownership data for newspapers. Note that Mr. Payne's article, and the subsequent discussion, are taking place online. That - and the myriad efforts of the past two decades to find ways to 'monetize' such online activity - seem to suggest a pretty clear 'post-newspaper economy.'
That aside, it would be encouraging to see fewer polemics and more thoughtful discussion. There are many excellent reasons for seeking out alternatives to carbon, and dependence on foreign oil is not the most significant of them. Burning carbon contributes to the poisoning of the atmosphere, with both direct and indirect implications for the health of individuals and the ecology. The carbon fuels he cites are finite, and finding new technologies to squeeze out the harder to exploit doesn't address these issues. There are renewable carbon fuels out there - we could always build wood-burning steam tractors - but the efficient carbon fuels are finite, and fracking and other such techniques merely buys a little time without addressing the root issue: we are collectively consuming more energy than can be sustained, and we are damaging the environment in the process.
There are any number of prudent steps we could be taking now, some as simple as rearranging our cities to reduce the number of miles people travel in cars every day.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIt is those who believe that the 'market' will magically produce the answers when they are necessary who are indulging in religion.
The world doesn't need you or any other geniuses deciding where we should live or how many miles we should drive per day.
When markets are free, resources find their most efficient uses. Scarcity leads to increased price, which in turn spires consumers to conserve, producers to produce more, and competitors to develop alternatives. It can seem magical but it's really just the power of transparent price signals and decentralized decisionmaking.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe free market is probably the soundest general basis for an economy that we know of, but that doesn't make it adequate to all necessary decisions. The urban smog problems of the '70s were not solved by the market, for example. It's unlikely that the infants, elderly, and sick who were most affected by the pollution spent enough combined to cause the market to make air scrubbers and factory relocation an economically sound choice. Detroit automakers have consistently resisted incorporating life-saving technology in cars - do you recall the bitter resistance to airbags? These are just two examples of cases in which the government, acting as the agent of the people, made necessary and beneficial decisions that the markets were not making on their own.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseIn other words, your brief description of how markets work is correct but simplistic and incomplete - and any faith that all problems can be or will be solved by market action requires a mystical faith indeed.
"...some as simple as rearranging our cities to reduce the number of miles people travel in cars every day."
This must be some new definition of the word "simple" that I am not aware of.
I am anxious to see who the new overlords are that will make these simple decisions, as well as who might be willing to pay for the bill.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI caught that 'rearrange the cities' too. Someone's a fan of Kelo perhaps?
And also the standard talking point about carbon. Hey Bosch. You don't want to add carbon to the atmosphere? Stop breathing!
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse"Simple" as in "requiring no undiscovered technology." "Simple" as in "we already know everything we need to know and have all the necessary tools to accomplish the task."
If you think that merely rearranging our buildings is beyond us (or that we would require "new overlords" to do so), one wonders where you think we will muster the ability to find new energy sources.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe fact that people cannot live near where they work, is the result of people like you, who decided that govt should make such decisions for the people. As to your claim that carbon is poisoning the atmosphere, nothing could be further from the truth. We need more CO2 in the atmospher, much more. There was a time when CO2 in the atmosphere was 7000 ppm, not the puny 300 that we suffer with today. At that time plant life flourished and animal life saw it's biggest expansion in our planet's history.
Carbon fuels are finite, but in the hundreds of years they will take to be exhausted, the free market will have plenty of time to develop alternatives. Oil will not just run out. One day it's there, the next day it's gone. It will gradually increase in price. Each increase will result in people figuring out how to use less, produce more, and find alternatives.
It's not magic, it's basic human nature. It's those who think that govt diktat can improve on those market forces who believe in magic.
Anyone who seriously proposes wood fired, steam powered tractors has completely taken himself out of the running when it comes to be taken seriously.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseOur founding fathers founded a *government*, based on the idea that regular folks could vote for their own laws via elected representatives. If we vote to put some costs on carbon emissions, that's the people speaking, not just some faceless "government". I happen to believe democratic government is a good thing even as we struggle with problems like too much special interest money in politics.
Regarding free market religion, how does the free market prevent something like littering? We have government regulations designed to prevent littering (e.g. regular folks support laws via the government which say if you litter you pay a fine). That to me seems like sensible government regulation.
But perhaps you would like a model without these government regulations, where everyone is totally free to put their garbage and toxic waste wherever they want and each person could let garbage pile up before hiring someone to dump it in their neighbors property and we sold off all public spaces like parks, subways and roads, which would just get overrun with litter if we didn't. After all, this is a free country why should "the government" tell us what we have to do with our garbage? Let the free market decide.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseWell, no, the reason we don't live near where we work is the result of the '50s growth in the middle class, widespread car ownership, urban flight, and development and zoning decisions based on seemingly endless land, endless cheap energy, and plenty of space on the roads for the cars. With endless population growth and, as you correctly note, finite carbon energy resources, the assumptions underlying our current urban and suburban layouts turn out to be badly dated. The Germans have been wrestling with this longer than we, and have some excellent zoning systems in place that are worth looking at. I could walk or bike to anything I needed in both cities where I lived in Germany, one very urban and one suburban.
Of course government can improve on market forces. It's probably worth pointing out that market forces, left to themselves, had factory workers living in poverty and working in horrible conditions. The market isn't a mystical force that naturally finds the best solution to any problem - it's simply people engaged in commerce, with all the good and bad that people tend to do. The relationship of government to the market is not unlike the relationship of government to traffic: government is not going to tell you where to drive, but to suggest that we abandon traffic regulations because individuals will naturally find the best traffic patterns on their own is a bit thick.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseI don't think that anyone has suggested that oil will simply run out. However, you should probably pay attention to the delta between world peak production capacity and world demand: it's growing very narrow indeed, and the problems begin when those lines cross, not when "the oil runs out." However, you're onto something by pointing out the value of the price mechanism in finding alternatives. Driving the price up through taxes, as is done in Europe, would engage those market dynamics while there is still sufficient slack world production capacity to avoid catastrophic failure. To wait for the prices to rise on their own requires a religious faith that there are solutions already in the barrel just waiting to become price-competitive, and that's simply not the case.
As for being taken seriously, you took the time to pen a 4-paragraph response, so I'll let your actions speak for themselves. To put your mind at ease, though, read the sentence on wood-burning again, and this time through, note that the wood-burning steam power is offered as an acknowledgement that not all carbon fuels are non-renewable - but the renewable ones tend to be inefficient and dirty. Since we both agree that going back to wood-burning steam power is a bad idea, and since we both agree that the oil will run out, it's clear that we need to find an alternative. I simply find the "someone will do something someday when the market shows it's time" to be remarkably short-sighted.
It should be noted, that gasoline, and indeed, oil in general, is winning out despite the price being artificially increased through fuel taxes. I'm not sure how many States add a fuel tax to the price of gas and diesel, but in Canada, every province has a fuel tax ranging from a low of $.86/ US Gallon to a high of $1.71/ US Gallon, plus another $.39/US Gallon federal fuel tax.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe Lefties' incessant bleating about the "subsidies to the oil industry" never are set out in detail. Most of the "subsidies" are in the form of oil firms being allowed to deduct depreciation expenses, the same as any other extractive company or those in manufacturing. I urge all to ask for
Reply to this commentLinkReport Abusethe details of these subsidies when dealing with the loony left. I bet $10,000 that they will be
unable to explain.
I had one loon try to claim that 100% of the defense dept budget counted as a subsidy for oil.
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseHere’s a breakdown of the annual subsidies. (External Link
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Oil, gas, coal receive much greater share than all alternatives combined. Some are tax breaks and some are direct subsidies, but either go directly to the bottom line of the company receiving them:
"Oil and gas: $41 billion
President Obama wants Congress to chop $3.6 billion in 2012 oil and gas tax breaks for a total of $46.2 billion over the next decade. Among Mr. Obama’s targets: a nearly century-old oil and gas industry tax deduction for the costs of preparing drill sites and a manufacturer's tax break granted the oil industry in 2004.
The number is significant, but still little more than one-tenth of the federal subsidies that oil and gas companies might receive over 10 years. Adjusted for inflation, they currently receive about $41 billion in annual subsidies annually. That amounts to more than half – 52 percent – of total benefits distributed to energy sectors by the federal government.
Coal: $8 billion
In second place among fossil fuels, the US coal industry reaps about $8 billion in subsidies annually – or about 10 percent of total federal largess. This includes tax breaks, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars on research into carbon capture and storage.
Those figures mean that subsidies to industries involved in fossil fuels total about $52 billion when adjusted for inflation – about two-thirds all federal energy subsidies."
Reply to this commentLinkReport AbuseThe success in spite of killing measures would be used by Obama to say he really isn't out to kill carbon and that he foresaw and made possible this success. (Not that that's true.)
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