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Saturday, June 28, 2003

JEWS TO BE KILLED [Jonah Goldberg ]

If they buy land in Iraq. Things just keep getting cheerier over there.


Posted at 07:26 PM

IRAQ [Jonah Goldberg]

Several readers have asked why we in the Corner or at NRO aren't talking about the attacks on our troops in Iraq more. It's an interesting question (although I should note there's virtually no editorial collaboration for what goes in the Corner). Speaking solely for myself, I guess the reason I haven't said anything about it is that I don't know what to say. We all knew that the "peace" would be harder than the war. There was consensus on that among hawks and (most) doves alike. Personally, I suspect it's all coordinated and the capture of Saddam and/or a sudden change in Iran might result in the whole "resistance" evaporating. Also, there's a line from the current cover story in the Atlantic which seems relevant. A special forces officer says of those who want to cut and run in circumstances like this -- I'm quoting from memory -- "If some firemen die putting out a fire, should we just let the building burn?"

If we need more troops, let's send more troops. But the consequences of screwing this up or bugging out would be far worse than anything we're seeing now.


Posted at 07:26 PM

FULL MARX [Andrew Stuttaford]

We should, I suppose, be grateful that the American Library Association does not actually support the burning of books, but, as Jay has written before now, its shilly-shallying over Cuba’s independent libraries reveals a dismaying tendency amongst its members to put ideological affiliation before freedom of speech. The New York Times has more on this squalid little story today.

Amongst the people interviewed are Mark Rosenzweig, the director of the Reference Center for Marxist Studies, something that is blandly described by the Times' reporter as a ‘research center in New York City’. That’s true so far as it goes, but it might have been helpful to add that this reference center (“the official designated depository of the papers of the CPUSA”) leans, shall we say, somewhat to the left. Reading their newsletter from Winter 2002 we learn that:

“The RCMS [the center] joined with libraries across the country in celebrating "Banned Books Week", an annual event celebrating the '"freedom to read". Our exhibit was unique however, in emphasizing something which has been for the most part expunged from the history of the fight against censorship in the US. That is the role the Communist Party of the United States played from its founding onward in fighting tirelessly against laws meant to stifle free speech, freedom of association and discussion, freedom to publish and read. “

That is, to put it mildly, an interesting spin on the CPUSA - an organization variously dedicated to Lenin, Stalin and other 20th Century butchers. What's more, it's instructive to contrast those fine-sounding words with Rosenzweig’s contemptuous dismissal of the Cuban dissidents as “a ragtag bunch of people who have been involved on the fringes of the dissident movement.”

If Rosenzweig is an important player in this controversy it would be interesting to know why. If not, it raises another question. Why did the Times choose to give quite such prominence to his views?


Posted at 02:37 PM

SOMETHING ROTTEN [Andrew Stuttaford]

For another example of how ‘religious toleration’ can mean exactly the opposite, travel to Denmark. The Economist (link requires payment of vast sums of money) is reporting the views of one Thorkild Grosboel. “There’s no heavenly God, there’s no eternal life, and there’s no resurrection.” He is, of course, fully entitled to those opinions, but there’s a catch. Grosboel is the pastor of a small town north of Copenhagen – and he wants to keep his job. The local bishop has, quite correctly, barred Grosboel from the pulpit, but, incredibly (a not inappropriate word), the Economist notes that ‘some liberals within the church urge greater leniency’.

Why?

There’s nothing particularly new – or shocking - about clergymen questioning their faith. The curate with ‘doubts’ is a familiar figure from literature and anecdote, but these are doubts best not shared with parishioners. Grosboel, by contrast, seems to have moved – and moved very publicly - from doubt to certainty, the certainty, presumably, that the rites at which he officiates are nothing more than mumbo-jumbo. To continue to perform them is an insult both to his church and (if it stops to think about the implications) his congregation – post-modernism can only go so far, even in Denmark.

Grosboel should show some manners – and quit.


Posted at 01:41 PM

ISLAMOPHOBIA? [Andrew Stuttaford]

The UK think-tank Civitas is suggesting (to quote this Daily Telegraph report), “fanatical Islamist religious leaders who preach hatred of Western values should be prevented from coming to work in British mosques”. Quite how one defines “fanatical” is, obviously, far from straightforward, but the current system under which ministers of religion are exempt from the normal visa rules (there are similar arrangements here in the US) seems not only wrong (why should clerics be given this privilege?) but also dangerous.

The West is facing a threat from a totalitarian and murderous ideology that happens to clothe itself in the guise of a religion – or at least a strand of thought within that religion. Somehow the fact that its advocates are always talking about their vision of God has lulled their potential victims into a curious reluctance to defend themselves properly. The reason usually cited? ‘Sensitivity’ to other faiths. This is nonsense. After far too long a wait, religious toleration has, rightly, become a vital part of Western cultural identity – it should not, however, be allowed to become a suicide pact. If, during the Cold War, East Bloc advocates of a violent overthrow of the West had wanted to come here to preach their message or worse, the visa process would have ensured that, at the very least, they were subjected to some serious scrutiny before their admission. The same should be true of clerics who wish upon our civilization destruction no less total than anything ever dreamt up by commissar or gauleiter. Singling out the clergymen of any one particular faith for a special visa regime would be invidious, so the solution is to require all ‘religious workers’ from abroad to go through a proper screening before they are admitted (certification by church, mosque or temple should not, by itself, be enough) here to carry out their work. Those who truly represent a religion of peace would have nothing to fear.

The authors of the Civitas report also note how the concept of ‘Islamophobia’ is being used to damp down debate over Islam. That’s true. If it’s to mean anything religious toleration must be about more than freedom of worship or, for that matter, not to worship. It should also be about the right to criticize and debate the creeds of others (tolerance is not the same as agreement) and the right to proselytize for your own. And if some people find that ‘offensive’, well, that’s just too bad. Freedom sometimes is.


Posted at 01:12 PM

DUMB DRUMS [Andrew Stuttaford]

It’s fine in a band, an orchestra or as the prelude to death by firing squad. Otherwise, drumming has a tendency to be dumb, dull or both.

Writing in a recent issue of New York Press, J R Taylor’s review of a 'Scream Out' (against the crimes of the evil Bush administration) begins as follows:

“"Could we get some drumming going?"

And there it is–the international symbol of the dopey performance art event. Karen Finley makes the call for the only cliche missing here at St. Mark’s Church in the Bowery, where Finley–best known for promoting herself as a worthy use of our taxes–has organized today’s big Scream Out. “

Send that man some chocolate.


Posted at 11:40 AM

E-MAIL THEM BACK [Andrew Stuttaford]

Annoyed by that scam spam from various African bureaucrats, princesses, despots, victims of despots, and relatives of victims of despots all offering you a share in a fortune? Well, here’s a possible solution.


Posted at 11:36 AM

INTOLERANCE WATCH [Andrew Stuttaford]

Here's an extract from a letter published last week in the Financial Times. The author is a professor at the University of California’s Graduate School of Management in Irvine, California:

“Sir, The photo of 14 white males sitting round a conference table which accompanied your article about the new American boardroom tells it all…These men not only look alike, they even have their hands folded the same way: no doubt they think alike also…”

That the woman who wrote that insulting trash is a professor there tells you all you need to know about the University of California’s Graduate School of Management in Irvine, California.

Or am I being unfair to suggest that all professors “think alike?”


Posted at 11:28 AM

CLASSIC [Andrew Stuttaford]

When it comes to the engineering, British cars are more cautionary tale than glorious legend, but there’s an ad running over in the UK for the new Rover 75 that’s making great play of the fact that this was a car that had outranked new Renault and VW models in a recent survey.

The slogan: “Usual story: France behind Germany. Britain out on its own.”

I don't know who wrote that copy, but I do know that it wasn't Chris Patten.


Posted at 11:20 AM

EPHEMERAL NATIONS [Andrew Stuttaford]

Speaking of countries that aren’t likely to be around for long, here’s an entertaining (if you like that sort of thing) list (via Reason’s blog) of ‘ephemeral nations.’ It’s a pity that the compiler couldn’t include one of the best such countries (for the perfectly good reason, of course, that it was fictional) - the reborn ‘Burgundy’ from Passport to Pimlico (1949), a movie that’s worth watching both in its own right (it’s very funny) and as a historical document: the ‘Burgundians’ may have finally chosen to rejoin Clement Atlee's Britain, but the film was, nevertheless, an early – and gentle - sign of discontent with the hairshirt socialism of the Labour government that the UK so foolishly elected in the waning days of World War II.

Best line from the movie (from a policeman who discovers that he is Burgundian):

“Blimey, I’m a foreigner.”

That’s a problem that all Brits may face if the EU ‘constitution’ goes through.


Posted at 11:12 AM

SAUDI FREEDOMS [Andrew Stuttaford]

There's more to being a salesman than the horrors of Glengarry Glen Ross, and it must have been a truly inspired PR consultant who was able to persuade the 'Saudi' embassy in London (there’s no other conceivable explanation) to produce this remarkable Q&A on the state of human rights in the ‘Kingdom’.

Here's a sample:

“Q: Is this evolution [in Saudi politics] leading, eventually, to a western type democracy?

A: No. it could lead to more popular participation in all levels, but it is unlikely to culminate in a Western democracy. In democracy, the elected parliament ranks supreme. It can make anything legal illegal, and vice-versa. In Islam what God specified as Haram (illegal), or Halal (legal), cannot be changed by any parliament, or even by the whole population. These imperatives of right and wrong in Islam are unchangeable.”

And in that one word ‘unchangeable’ you have the essence of totalitarian rule – “a boot,” as Orwell once put it, “stamping on a human face – forever.”

But don’t worry too much. As the embassy explains:

“The State protects human rights in accordance with Islamic Sharia.”

So that’s OK then.

Via Oxblog


Posted at 11:00 AM

THE POPE MADE THEM DO IT [Jonah Goldberg]

An LA Times story ( reg. req'd) on how the Supreme Court has struck down a California molestation law has this non-seqitur in the middle of the story:


Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Associate Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas joined the dissent. Three of the dissenters — Kennedy, Scalia and Thomas — were raised as Catholics.



Posted at 09:49 AM

RE: DAMN VEGANS [Jonah Goldberg]

I've gotten several emails along these lines. I largely siuspected this was the case anyway:

Jonah,

As a fellow carnivore I agree with your sentiment. But soybean meal is the primary protein component of farm animal rations. The vast majority of that soybean crop will be used to feed all those chickens, pigs and cattle that you, Cosmo and I enjoy to consume.

[Name withheld]
P.S. If the spot of "Ag Guy" isn't taken, I'll volunteer.


Posted at 08:26 AM

Friday, June 27, 2003

EAT MEAT: SAVE THE RAINFORESTS [Jonah Goldberg ]

The Brazillian rainforest is being destroyed to make room for rapidly expanding soy farms. Damn those vegans.



Posted at 05:32 PM

MR. THATCHER [John J. Miller]
Years ago, I knew a Washington conservative who joked about forming a Denis Thatcher Society in D.C. for men whose wives are more famous than they are.

Posted at 01:56 PM

SIR DENIS THATCHER [John Derbyshire]
Lovely obituary piece for Denis Thatcher by John O'Sullivan in today's NRO. Sir Denis exemplified something I bang on about from time to time--conservatism as an anti-ideology. He illustrated, in fact, the important leavening effect in politics of having some people around, near the center, who dislike politics. The great American president Warren Gamaliel Harding was another such. A further point, though perhaps an uncharitable one: compare the Thatcher marriage with the Clinton marriage. What comes to mind here is the remark by a Victorian lady after seeing Shakespeare's Anthony and Cleopatra performed: "How different from the home life of our own dear Queen!"

Posted at 12:04 PM

EXACTLY WHAT THE WEB WAS MISSING [Jonah Goldberg]

Dognoses.com


Posted at 11:29 AM

VERY DEPRESSING [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

The most depressing CNN news summary (I don't know what else to call those little one-sentence takes above the crawl) in history came up this morning: "Judge rules gag order does not apply to Gloria Allred." Dammit.

Posted at 11:15 AM

ISRAELI SOLDIERS CLEARED [Jonah Goldberg]

In the Rachel Corrie case.


Posted at 10:52 AM

THOUGHTS ON THURMOND [Jonah Goldberg]

I think John Miller makes all the important points about Strom below. But on the lighter side, how long do you think his obit has been lying around the Washington Post? Since the 1980s? I bet Len Downie wrote the first draft as an intern.

I don't mean any disrespect, it's just that 100 is a great age to depart this mortal coil. Love him or hate him no one can deny he lived a full life. He should be memorialized, but I find it hard to see this as a moment of great tragedy. For example, I remember when I was in college and Martha Graham died at the premature age of 96, retiring from the stage at 75 and gvving up choreography -- I think in her late 80s. Because my school had a big dance program, the place was festooned with weeping, inconsolable girls who couldn't cope with the enormity of the tragedy. My response, which earned me few friends was "Well, when did you wanther to die?"


Posted at 10:22 AM

BUSH SPEECH [John J. Miller]
No, I don't have a problem with President Bush taking a few minutes to acknowledge the creation of a Do Not Call registry. From the standpoint of politics, it probably helps him with the public--just as all those school-uniform and v-chip micro-initiatives helped Clinton. I do hope that he's now back at his desk trying to figure out how to privatize Social Security, bring school choice to D.C., or reading The Corner. (Hi, Dubya.)

Posted at 10:08 AM

SLOW ON THE UPTAKE [Jonah Goldberg]

Tapped establishes my "still an idiot" tagline as the bipartisan bumper-sticker for Cynthia McKinney (though I get no credit). They link to the WyethWire which debunks the latest rank revisionism in defense of McKinney. Of course, you could have heard it here first.


Posted at 09:48 AM

DEMOCRATIC DYNASTY [Jonah Goldberg]

Patrick Kennedy says it all (from Lloyd Grove, Via Drudge):

• As sometimes happens with Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.), he let his mouth race ahead of his brain Wednesday night at a gathering of Young Democrats at the Washington nightspot Acropolis. After presidential candidate Howard Dean spoke, Kennedy delivered an impassioned peroration against President Bush's tax cut. We hear that Kennedy told the crowd: "I don't need Bush's tax cut. I have never worked a [bleeping] day in my life." With that he got the audience's attention -- the dropping-jaws kind. "He droned on and on, frequently mentioning how much better the candidates would sound the more we drank," a witness told us. "Finally, he had to be stopped by a DNC volunteer." Kennedy's spokesman, Ernesto Anguilla, told us yesterday: "He was talking to the crowd; it was a rally-the-troops kind of speech about the tax cut. He was energizing the crowd and got caught up in it and used an unfortunate word, which he regrets using. . . . And no one pulled him off the stage."

Posted at 09:33 AM

RE: THE PHONE [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
But even being a fan of the registry, don't you think the president has much more important things to do?

Posted at 09:31 AM

DON'T CALL ME [John J. Miller]
K Lo: I am a fan of the "do not call" registry, even though some of my conservative friends think it's just another example of big government getting bigger. I intend to put my phone number on it and thereby keep telemarketers from calling me at their pleasure, rather than me calling them at mine. But it's worth noting that political parties are exempt from the ban--another example of politicians making sure the rules by which everybody else must abide don't apply to them.

Posted at 09:22 AM

JUST ANOTHER JOB OPTION [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
What happens when you mainstream prostitution.

Posted at 08:59 AM

I HATE TELEMARKETERS AS MUCH AS THE NEXT GUY... [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
...but I don't think a "do not call registry" rises to the level of a presidential speech. But there is the president, right now, in the Rose Garden, talking about "annoying" phonecalls.

Posted at 08:42 AM

THATCHER & THURMOND [Kathryn Jean Lopoez]
Mark Steyn.

Posted at 07:51 AM

THURMOND'S LEGACY [John J. Miller]
The death of Strom Thurmond brought to mind an op-ed Walter Russell Mead wrote for the Wall Street Journal a couple of years ago, on the occasion of Jesse Helms announcing that he wouldn’t seek re-election. Actually it was the New York Times’ headline calling Thurmond a “foe of integration” that made me remember. Here’s what Mead wrote: “For all his staunch conservatism and angry rhetoric, Mr. Helms is one of a handful of Southern statesmen who ensured the triumph of the civil-rights revolution.” Mead continued: “Once the civil-rights legislation of the 1960s was enacted, Mr. Helms--along with some of his erstwhile segregationist colleagues like South Carolina Sen. Strom Thurmond--did something very revolutionary for Southern white populists. He accepted the laws and obeyed them.” Helms and Thurmond “shunned violence,” “hired African-American staffers and gave African-Americans the same level of constituency service they gave whites,” and based their opposition to racial preferences on principle rather than racism. I’m not going to wax nostalgic about Thurmond, because I was never that big a fan of him as a politician (yet I was--and remain--an admirer of Helms, especially for his contributions to foreign policy). Still, it would be nice--and accurate--if he were remembered for something in addition to creating the conditions for Trent Lott’s downfall a few months ago. Yes, he was a “foe of integration”--but he also became a friend of it. The fact that he changed his mind is more important than his onetime resistance.

Posted at 07:24 AM

MICHIGAN "DIVERSITY" [John J. Miller]
I received a degree in English from the University of Michigan in 1992, and about once a year the Department of English sends out a newsletter. The 2003 edition arrived in my mailbox yesterday, during a week when U of M has been much on my mind. It contains the usual left-wing drivel: "Within the raucuous family of English, new authority resides in the language of literary resistance." We also learn the titles of recent books by faculty members, such as The Renaissance of Lesbianism in Early Modern England. Finally, there's a spread on something called the Prison Creative Arts Project. Students receive credits for helping prisoners draw pictures and write plays. Ah, yes: the delicious fruits of diversity.

Posted at 07:00 AM

Thursday, June 26, 2003

STROM THURMOND, DIES, 100 [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Posted at 11:15 PM

BORING, BUT IMPORTANT [Ramesh Ponnuru]
I expect we're going to be hearing a lot more about the "natural gas crisis" in the next few months. The price spike and the supply shortage are real, and the potential economic--and political--impact is substantial. Be the first on your block to understand what's going on by reading this.

Posted at 09:07 PM

SAUDI BOMBING SUSPECT ARRESTED [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Posted at 05:02 PM

ON SODOMY & POLLS & CNN [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Paraphrase from Bill Schneider, on Americans opinions of gays and gay sex: People under 30 are tolerant. Seniors get a little freaked out.

Posted at 04:31 PM

CHIEF JUSTICE FUNNYMAN [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
NRDC intern James Justin Wilson was hanging around the Court this morning. After the five decisions of the day were issues, Chief Justice Rehnquist paused and said (paraphrasing): I'd like to announce the retirement...[SILENCE FILLS THE CROWD] of the Court librarian.

Posted at 04:23 PM

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY... [Jonah Goldberg]
There's never a hegemonic nation-building imperium when you need one. From the Fox News homepage:

"Liberians Demand U.S. Intervene"

Posted at 04:22 PM

HYPOCRISY [Sarah Maserati]
Ramesh writes, "So it is entirely possible to oppose amnesty because the immigration laws can and should be better enforced, while opposing laws against pot and sodomy because those laws shouldn't be." We disagree on whether those latter laws should be enforced. But my point remains that non-enforcement of a law is in itself not a very good reason to oppose a law. In other words, a law doesn't lose merit because we decide not to enforce it.

Posted at 04:18 PM

WATER COOLER DEBATE [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Mr.Goldberg

I must take issue with your description of Alan Dershowitz as the world's most obnoxious Jew. While Mr.Dershowitz successfully defended that title for many years, the torch has been passed to a new generation.

Al Franken is now the world's most obnoxious Jew.

[Name withheld]


Posted at 03:48 PM

RE: MASERATI ON HYPOCRISY [Ramesh Ponnuru]

Sarah writes, "Some conservatives have argued that sodomy laws and marijuana laws should be struck down because 'we shouldn't have laws on the books that we don't enforce.' I.e., it's hypocritical to have laws and then not enforce them. Well, that argument can just as easily be used to defend a blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants. . . ." I think the argument is better rendered as "we shouldn't have laws that we can't, or shouldn't, enforce." With the understanding that an inability to enforce a law 100 percent of the time does not mean that the law can't be enforced.

So it is entirely possible to oppose amnesty because the immigration laws can and should be better enforced, while opposing laws against pot and sodomy because those laws shouldn't be.


Posted at 03:30 PM

ANOTHER CONCERNED PERSON FOR AMERICA [Jonah Goldberg]

Calls me a coward and capitulationist. Frankly, I think this one is simply intellectually and factually dishonest about what I wrote and have written and reads to me like a piece of direct mail fundraising propaganda more than an argument. All I will say on the issue of my alleged cowardice is this: considering where my bread is buttered, it seems to me I have a lot more to risk by taking this position than I have to gain. I've also found that people who shout the word coward in situations like this tend to be saying a lot more about their own intellectual insecurities than the intestinal fortitude of their opponents. I've got no problem with people saying I'm wrong or even very wrong, but I can do without the beer muscles from people like this guy. I'm not intimidated.


Posted at 03:22 PM

PATRIOTIC CONFUSION [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Down below, Jonah quotes two prominent libertarians on the state of liberty in America: "Under no circumstances should an American be held captive in the US indefinitely, with no charges filed and no legal representation afforded. Yet this has happened under the Patriot Act." I didn't know that Patriot allowed this sort of thing. I called the Justice Department, and they're not aware that it does either. Two American citizens have been held as enemy combatants for the duration of hostilities, and whether that is accurately characterized as "indefinitely" can be debated. But that has nothing to do with the Patriot Act.

Posted at 03:15 PM

ADVERTISEMENT [John Derbyshire]
Number of broadsheet newspapers that have currently reviewed Prime Obsession: 3.

Posted at 03:03 PM

THE CONQUEST-O'SULLIVAN LAWS [John Derbyshire]
Kathryn: I'm obliged to you for setting me straight on that. I am still not completely clear, though, whose law is whose. Can we get a definitive list--perhaps from the O'Sullivan himself, if he can be rousted out from whichever corner of the globe he is currently examining?

Posted at 02:40 PM

CONQUEST’S FIRST LAW [Kathryn Jean Lopez ]
In a follow-up column, John (O'S) in 1989 shared Conquest’s first law (having cited Conquest’s second, after the introduction of the O’Sullivan first, in that original O’Sullivan piece, here) with NR readers in his from the editor column: “Everyone is reactionary on the subject he is expert about.” John added, “So far, so good. But Bob Conquest warns me that it does not mean that everyone is an expert on the subject he is reactionary about. Sorry.”

Posted at 01:48 PM

WHO’S ON FIRST [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Derb, in your column the other day, you mentioned Conquest’s first law. Actually, a correction—and I should have caught this pre-publication—it is (John) O’Sullivan’s law, that “All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.” The 1989 article where O’Sullivan introduced it is reprinted on NRO here.

Posted at 01:48 PM

NOONTIME REFLECTIONS [John Derbyshire]
It's 96 degrees here on the North Shore and the kids are on summer break. Death, where is thy sting?

Posted at 01:29 PM

GAY MARRIAGE VS. THE DRUG WAR [Jonah Goldberg]

In response to my column on gay marriage, a number of readers as well as Derb, Robert Knight and others have noted -- rightly -- that simply because conservatives are losing a fight doesn't mean conservatives should necessarily give up a fight. Many of them have invoked abortion as an example. Just because pro-lifers have not won that many victories doesn't mean they should throw in the towel. In principle I absolutely agree.

Also, I think the comparison to abortion is more than a little strained since pro-lifers generally believe they are fighting murder or something very close to it. And I'm aware of no morally compelling argument which says that you should turn your back on what you consider genocide simply because the killers are especially successful. Gay marriage may be bad, but I think most rational people understand the two scenarios are apples and oranges.

But what about the drug war? As I've written several times, when I asked some of the editors whether NR would be opposed to the drug war if they thought it was winnable, they said "Hmmmm, great question. I'm not sure." In other words, the conservative-libertarian case against the drug war is not that the intent of the drug war is immoral but that the costs of the drug war are immoral compared to the benefits.

Now I don't think the two things -- gay rights and the drug war -- are all that similar. But for those of you who believe that "giving up" or compromising is always wrong, you might think about this a bit.


Posted at 12:57 PM

REVOLUTIONARIES VIA SATELLITE [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
A Washington Post story on the Iranian exiles in Iran who manage to get their voice heard in Iran, despite the mullahs.

Posted at 12:54 PM

IRREGARDLESS [John Derbyshire]
Yes, yes, of course I know that "irregardless" is an illiteracy. "Irregardless (as we lawyers say)..." was a quote from one of my all-time favorite movies, Hester Street. Which, I guess, is not as well known as I thought... or as it deserves to be. There's your weekend movie rental, all set up for you. We aim to provide a useful service here at NRO.

Posted at 12:46 PM

AN EXCELLENT POINT [Jonah Goldberg]

And one folks like Andrew Sullivan might consider, from a reader:

Jonah:

As one of those social-cons dismayed at The Corner's sodomy law bashing, I can see the point. Here is another in your favor: Had we Neanderthals pushed our legislature to repeal the sodomy law we would have avoided writing the right to sodomize into the Constitution altogether. In essence, we played into their hands by overreaching and established a new right that will be used to justify and support all sorts of other rights to come in the future. Crap.


My response: This captures a big part of my argument about gay marriage and the all-or-nothing opposition. If conservatives don't provide an alternative arrangement -- civil unions of some kind -- then they are in effect gambling that in 5 years or 10 or at any other time in the future the courts or congress won't recognize gay marriage entirely. A compromise on the issue would/could preclude losing the argument entirely and having same-sex marriages as the law of the land. Such a compromise might also have the added benefit of doing the right thing.


Posted at 12:41 PM

HOMOSEXUALITY & RELIGION [John Derbyshire]
Following yesterday's piece, several readers have asked me to recommend a book on homosexuality and the Bible. I can't claim to be well read in this area (and I guarantee that ANY book recommended will raise howls of scorn from some faction: "Oh, that old thing? Totally superseded!") However, a book that has impressed me very much, and which I often dip into for facts and thoughtful analysis, is Robert A.J. Gagnon's The Bible and Homosexual Practice, which is a very dense scholarly study of the whole field, covering both Old and New Testament (heck, it covers the Apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, and the Dead Sea Scrolls, too!), and summarizing a wealth of recent research about homosexuality. Gagnon is an Asst. Prof. at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. If you want to say anything about religion and homosexuality, from any angle, you need this book on your shelf.

Posted at 12:41 PM

HMMM [Jonah Goldberg]
Are the Mexicans "skipping" across the border gay?

Posted at 12:34 PM

ON HYPOCRISY [Sarah Maserati]
Some conservatives have argued that sodomy laws and marijuana laws should be struck down because "we shouldn't have laws on the books that we don't enforce." I.e., it's hypocritical to have laws and then not enforce them. Well, that argument can just as easily be used to defend a blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants. Millions of Mexicans skip across the border with impunity, and because large farms and companies like their labor, many blind eyes are turned. So, who's up for a blanket amnesty? How about open borders?

Posted at 12:22 PM

ME-QUOTES: AN APOLOGY [Jonah Goldberg]

First: Yes this is self-indulgent but that ship sailed a long time ago.

Second: The guys at G-Philes.com have alerted me to an even more extensive list of Me-quotes than the one provided by RightwingNews.com. It's at the blog Fort Awesome.


Posted at 12:07 PM

SODOMY [Jonah Goldberg]

Derb, you're probably rght in terms of politie company. Though a quick websearch for websites containing the "s" word reveals it may be with us for a while longer. But I DO NOT RECOMMEND anyone try to verify this.


Posted at 11:50 AM

RE: JUSTICE THOMAS ON SODOMY [John Derbyshire]
Jonah: Irregardless (as we lawyers say) of the merits of the Supreme Court ruling on the Texas sodomy law, you may as well cherish the word "sodomy" while you can. Looks like it won't be with us much longer. From Monday's New York Post: "The terms 'sodomy' and 'deviate sexual assault' will be stricken from New York's law books under legislation approved by lawmakers in the waning hours of the Legislature's just-completed session. The substitution of new terms does not affect criminal penalties for those acts, but advocates said it is important to expunge archaic language that stigmatizes sexual-assault victims and gay people. The legislation replaces the term 'sodomy' with 'criminal sexual act' and 'deviate sexual intercourse' with 'oral sexual conduct' or 'anal sexual conduct.' The changes were included in a bill negotiated among Gov. Pataki and legislative leaders that amends a far-ranging sexual-assault law enacted three years ago. The bill was approved Friday by the state Senate and Assembly during a flurry of activity that marked the end of the Legislature's session."

Posted at 11:41 AM

JUSTICE THOMAS & SODOMY [Jonah Goldberg]

When several Cornerites expressed the opinion that sodomy laws didn't make much sense (even if they might be constitutional), quite a few socially conservative readers were dismayed. Well, Justice Thomas is one of us too. Here's how he begins his separate opinion in the sodomy case:

I join Justice Scalia's dissenting opinion. I write separately to note that the law before the Court today "is...uncommonly silly." Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 US 479, 527 (1965) (Stewart, J., dissenting). If I were a member of the Texas Legislature, I would vote to repeal. Punishing someone for expressing his sexual preference through noncommercial consensual conduct with another adult does not appear to be a worthy way to expend valuable law enforcement resources.


Also, those -- like Robert Knight -- who think I'm nuts for believing gays have largely won the culture war may direct their criticisms in the future to Justice Thomas.


Posted at 11:24 AM

START WITH SCALIA [Ramesh Ponnuru]
From an e-mail regarding the Texas sodomy case ("stare decisis," btw, refers to the presumption in favor of sticking with precedent): It is usually good in cases like this to read Scalia's dissent first: "Today's opinions in support of reversal do not bother to distinguish--or indeed, even bother to mention--the paean to stare decisis coauthored by three Members of today's majority in Planned Parenthood v. Casey. There, when stare decisis meant preservation of judicially invented abortion rights, the widespread criticism of Roe was strong reason to reaffirm it . . . Today, however, the widespread opposition to Bowers, a decision resolving an issue as intensely divisive as the issue in Roe, is offered as a reason in favor of overruling it."

Posted at 11:07 AM

THE "DIVERSITY" GRAVY TRAIN [John Derbyshire]
Jay in today's Impromptus: "I'm looking at a photo caption in the New York Times: It says, 'Concepcion Escobar, 31, who just graduated from law school at the University of Michigan, said she thought she would probably not have gotten into the school had race not been a factor in the admissions process.' Why isn't she embarrassed about this? Why isn't she disgusted? How can she have stayed there comfortably, knowing that she had gotten in, not by the skin of her teeth, but just plain by her skin (or whatever)?" Um, Jay, could the answer to your "Why... Why... How..." possibly be: Because she can now ask her own price from all the law firm recruiters trawling desperately for "diversity" hires to make up their race quotas? Because she is now set up for life on the "diversity" gravy train, with a long lead over any lawyer named merely Derbyshire or Nordlinger in such things as, oh, consideration for a post as Supreme Court Justice? Could it be?

Posted at 11:05 AM

KNIGHT VS. GOLDBERG [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Robert Knight's screed against Jonah would be a lot more persuasive if a) he suggested a plausible strategy by which gay marriage or civil unions could be stopped or b) his own career of fighting gay rights had shown any success.

Posted at 11:03 AM

DERB A CAPPELLA [John Derbyshire]
A wise reader instructs me that an MP3 file gives FAR better sound reproduction than a WAV file. I tried it out and he is right. So now you can hear my rendition of "Where are the zeros of zeta of s?" in high fidelity. "'Tis said that swans sing before they die. / 'Twere better that some died before they sang."

Posted at 11:03 AM

THE NEW REPUBLIC'S PROBLEM [Jonah Goldberg]

Actually, I just finished Byron York's very useful piece on the whole WMD/Bush lied thing. Byron addresses the New Republic's broadside (narrowside?) against the Bush Administration. As Byron notes, TNR's gripe boils down to their belief that Bush hyped/lied/over-emphasized the nuclear threat from Iraq. I think it's too soon to tell whether this is true, but it's certainly a reasonable argument for liberals who supported the war to make.

But I think TNR has a fairly unique problem. They took the editorial position that the war was justified in order to stop Iraq from getting nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons only. Sure, they made the moral and strategic arguments, but they hinged everything on the nuclear threat. Moreover, they rejected the idea that chemical and biological weapons even counted as real WMDs. They still think the war was morally justified, but they're peeved that the realpolitik argument wasn't as strong as they believed it was.

Well, this raises an important question: Who cares? I don't mean this in the dismissive sense since I respect -- i.e. care about -- the New Republic's opinions. But if TNR believes the war was morally justified even without the nuclear justification, then their argument boils down to wanting to have it both ways. They want the war to be right and Bush to be wrong. This is intellectually defensible, but not exactly an argument which will rally many adherents on the right or the left. Those who are passionate about the "Bush lied" argument will sail right past TNR and rally to the Nation or Mother Jones. Those who are passionate about defending the war, will sail past TNR going the other direction. In order words, TNR may be right for taking what they see as the middle-of-the-road position (war right, Bush wrong), but the traffic will keep whizzing by them in both the North-bound and South-bound lanes.

TNR has another "Who cares?" problem. When I made the point the other week that I wan't overly troubled by the failure to find WMD (yet) because I never made the argument that WMD was the only justification for war, a reader tartly noted "Who cares?" The country didn't go to war based upon your argument for war, we went to war because of what the President said, he argued. The reader was right of course. And this point cuts both ways. The New Republic only cared about the nuclear threat, but the American people cared about the biological and chemical weapon threat too. They aslo cared about the President's other arguments as well: Saddam is an irredeemable enemy of the US, sanctions don't work, the region needs democracy etc etc. As Byron notes, the Administration invoked those arguments too. If the New Republic rejected those arguments, well, that's the New Republic's problem not Bush's.


Posted at 10:59 AM

THE WMD LIE? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Byron's got a piece on the "lie" talk unravelling.

Posted at 10:43 AM

AUTHOR FORMERLY KNOWN AS "ANONYMOUS" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Imagine being a Jew, disguised in a burka, among jihadists calling for "Death to Jews," all on U.S. soil. Oh yeah, and you're pregnant. If you saw the 60 Minutes interview in May of the Iraqi-born Jewish "terrorist hunter" whose been aiding the U.S. government in uncovering some of the terrorist fronts within our borders, you already know about the book about some of her investigations. She's no longer anonymous, because of a lawsuit some of the groups she's accused (ones that are still operating) have filed--they say they are not terrorists. She's Rita Katz, director of the Site Institute, who has actually co-written pieces for NRO over the last year or so. Anyway, her book is full of details, presenting a vivid picture of the terror threat here in the U.S., as well as abroad. You can read the NRO Q&A with her here.

Posted at 10:37 AM

RE CRANE AND NISKANEN [Jonah Goldberg]

Two views from Readers:

Dear Jonah I think that they ruin their argument by the casual inclusion of the Alan Dershowitz quote. There are all sorts of people out there saying all kinds of nitwittery. Are they saying that torture is a function of big government? - or that that's the way we're headed? If so, it's ludicrous. I read the original article and that particular sentence struck a really sour note. Like many conservatives, I too worry about the growth in government but as the Irish would say, we live in interesting times.

As far as so called neo-cons are concerned, I agree with you that the essential activist views of the neo-cons are probably shared by an awful lot of people. Hey why not? We have for years had subtle approval in the media for "activist" lefties, what about a few cheers for the activist right.

And:

I don't want to delve too deeply into the debate over neo-cons, paleo-cons, and libertarians. However, I do agree with Crane and Niskanen's concern about the absence of limited government supporters in Washington. In an attempt to neutralize left-wing issues, the Bush Administration wants to dramatically expand the role of the federal government. The president and far too many Republicans support a new prescription drug entitlement and tax credits for individuals who do not pay income taxes. Without leadership from the president, the debate over reducing the size of government appears to be dead.


Posted at 10:32 AM

GETTING IT ON ALL SIDES [Jonah Goldberg]
Robert Knight has joined the fray, ripping me on gay marriage.

Posted at 10:16 AM

FOR THE RECORD [Jonah Goldberg]

I agree with the Niskanen and Crane that government is getting too big under Bush. I think they're wrong, for the most part, on the national security stuff. I even wrote a syndicated column not too long ago critizing Bush for being a Big Spender.


Posted at 10:13 AM

SUPREME WORD [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Texas sodomy law was struck down, reporters reading the opinion are saying...

Posted at 10:09 AM

CRANE AND NISKANEN [ Jonah Goldberg]
I linked to Crane and Niskanen's anti-neocon piece yesterday. I generally find it to be a bit heavy on the usual libertarian clichés for my taste (I'll get into that in a future column). Still, I should have called attention to one odd bit which I quote in full context:
Under no circumstances should an American be held captive in the US indefinitely, with no charges filed and no legal representation afforded. Yet this has happened under the Patriot Act. And now there is talk of a Patriot II. James Buchanan, the Nobel laureate, argues that governments will acquire more power when the opportunity arises. History shows this to be true, and the Patriot law reflects it. Today, with the war on terrorism, the opportunities for the state to expand are ubiquitous. Both liberals and conservatives are turning a blind eye to unnecessary usurpations of power, if not openly calling for them. Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard law professor, has mooted the idea of "torture warrants", by which courts could authorise the use of torture to elicit information. The neo-conservative agenda is a particular threat to liberty - perhaps greater than the ideologically spent ideas of left-liberalism. Always a movement of bright intellectual leaders, neo-conservatism has mostly been a movement with a head but no body. One rarely runs into a neo-con on the street. Underlying neo-conservatism is a desire to reshape America and the world through the efforts of a robust federal government. For years The Weekly Standard, the neo-conservative magazine, has pushed for initiatives to reinforce US international power. Merely living in a free society appears to be insufficient for neo-conservatives.
Two Points: A generous reading would support the interpretation that Niskanen and Crane are pointing to Alan Dershowitz as an example of a "left-liberal." But this strikes me as deliberately ambiguous. I understand that from the libertarian perspective there's very little difference between what they see as a big government conservative and a big government liberal, but did they really have to cite the world's most famously obnoxious Jew as their ersatz neocon? Second, and more important, what's with this bit about how "One rarely runs into a neo-con on the street"? Um, is Cato ordering from the same vendor who supplies Pat Buchanan's office with cool aid?" Come on. Sure, it's absolutely true that one rarely runs into someone in the street who knows what the word "neocon" means. (The same might be said of libertarians). But that's very different from saying that one rarely runs into someone in the street who holds what Mr. Crane and Mr. Niskanen surely consider to be "neocon" views. I guarantee Mr. Crane and Mr. Niskanen that if you actually poll Americans on what policies they support, there are a lot more neocons out there than there are libertarians. Don't get me wrong, in many respects I wish there were more libertarians out there (in terms of public policy). But, please, spare me the faux populist jabs at neocon intellectuals (in the Financial Timesno less!) from the likes of Crane and Niskanen. It just doesn't wash.

Posted at 09:26 AM

DENNIS THATCHER, R.I.P. [John Derbyshire]
Very sad to hear of the death of Dennis Thatcher, husband of the Iron Lady. I never met Dennis, but in early-1980s London mixed with people who knew him. They all said the same thing: he was a perfect gentleman, unfailingly polite and considerate to everyone, never raised his voice or lost his temper. Best-known remark: When the spinsterish bachelor Norman St. John Stevas was appointed Minister for the Arts in an early Thatcher cabinet, Dennis was reported to have said: "There's something I don't like about the cut of his jib."

Posted at 08:34 AM

TIDE TURNING? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
In the wake of the centrifuge handover, CNN--yes, I said CNN--is now hyping the discovery of 300 sacks of castor beans in a warehouse outside Baghdad. Castor beans can be used to make ricin, and the sacks were mislabeled as fertilizer, making it evermore suspicious. I've been burned before, so I am not hyping yet, but seems like, um, maybe the president didn't lie--Saddam was a bad guy who did bad things and had bad weapons. Shocking discovery.

Posted at 08:33 AM

STUDENTS ON MICHIGAN [John J. Miller]
For what conservative students at the University of Michigan are saying about the Supreme Court rulings, check out the Michigan Review website.

Posted at 06:30 AM

Wednesday, June 25, 2003

I GUESS IT HAD TO HAPPEN [John Derbyshire]
I just got an e-mail with subject line: "The zeta function and gay priests."

Posted at 08:49 PM

THE ANGLICAN CHURCH IN NIGERIA [John Derbyshire]
A correction on my today piece, from One Who Certainly Ought to Know: "Thank you for your article on homosexuality and the Anglican Communion. Your views are shared by the overwhelming majority of churchmen, and I thank you for expressing them so succinctly and soundly. May I make one criticism? You have used the word "diocese" incorrectly in the context of the Nigerian church. The Church of Nigeria is a Province led by an Archbishop, who is known as the Primate of Nigeria. Nigeria is composed of 78 dioceses divided into three internal provinces each led by an Archbishop. At an estimated communicant strength of 17 million, it is the largest member Church of the Anglican Communion .... a polite fiction is maintained that the CoE is the largest with 28 million baptized members, though less than a million are regular churchgoers. As an aside, the second largest Church in the Anglican Communion is the Church of Uganda and the third largest is believed to be the Episcopal Church of the Sudan---though the Kenyans dispute this... There are more Nigerians in an Anglican Church on any given Sunday than the total of all Anglicans worshipping in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, and England."

Posted at 07:11 PM

THE FACE OF AMERICA'S FUTURE [Rod Dreher]
A reader writes, regarding the color of cynicism: Let me tell you about the "color" of my family. I have four children. The first two are our "genetic" children (both boys ages 23 and 21). The next two (both girls) were adopted. Each of the girls has one birth parent who was black and one who was white. They are bi-racial. They have been raised in a family with white parents and brothers but themselves could, by their looks, be either black, Polynesian, or Hispanic. My youngest son's wife is white. My oldest son will (next week) marry a young woman who emigrated from Cambodia when she was two. I expect to have grandchildren whose looks run the gamut from white to "sort of black" to "sort of Southeast Asian". We will love them all - whatever their color or abilities. My family is the face of the American future. The racist assumption of pigmentation uber alles, codified into law this week by the Supreme Court, has no place in our family. Alas, it seems to be the continued obsession gripping those who live in the rarified atmosphere of federal courts and academia. By their actions they demonstrate how little they know of the country they presume to judge.

Posted at 07:04 PM

IRAQ NUKE STUFF [Jonathan H. Adler]
MSNBC reports it's not a smoking gun, but is nonetheless significant because it "prove[s] that Saddam was hiding nuclear components from U.N. inspectors and could have rebuilt a weapons program once they left."

Posted at 06:04 PM

DOWD DOES IT AGAIN [Jonathan H. Adler]
Maureen Dowd's column today is not only nasty, it's guilty of another Dowdism.

Posted at 05:53 PM

SMOKING GUN? [Jonathan H. Adler]
CNN is reporting "Iraqi scientist turns over centrifuge, needed to develop nuclear bomb, that had been hidden in Baghdad." (No additional details yet.) I haven't been following this stuff that closely, but am I correct in thinking this sounds like big news?

Posted at 05:42 PM

CHAVEZ ON MICHIGAN [John J. Miller]
A great line in Linda Chavez's syndicated column: "Imagine what would have happened if instead of calling for equal treatment, however, the Rev. King had said, "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will be entitled to a 'plus factor' based on the color of their skin." As ludicrous as it might sound, that is exactly the principle a majority of the Supreme Court enshrined in their affirmative action decisions this week." [Full disclosure: LC is my old boss and a friend.]

Posted at 04:54 PM

THE SOUNDS OF THE DERB [John Derbyshire]
Sorry, here's the link.

Posted at 04:47 PM

RE: THE COLOR OF CYNICISM [Rod Dreher]
Lots of good mail from frustrated readers, along these lines:

This has been fodder for discussion at my house. My wife was born in Texas, the child of two Hispanic parents. Our kids, however, would not be categorized as Hispanic by anyone based on their looks or their last name. We have been able to provide them with a quality of life that includes many advantages. Still, when it comes time to apply to college, they may be faced with the decision to "check the box" or not. I admit that I am conflicted. On the one hand, I wish the system did not offer any advantages for applicants based on race. On the other, should I expect them to deny themselves a perfectly permissible advantage that the kids against whom they compete will use?

As part of the discussion with my wife, I was reminded of my neighbor and colleague. He is an active duty physician of Vietnamese ancestry. He literally came over on a boat as a young child as part of the Vietnamese exodus after the war. To be blunt, he is a bright guy who worked his ass off to get where he is. Still, if he were 15 years younger and applying to college, his Horatio Alger story would count for squat. He would, if anything, be penalized when competing for a spot with my children. In what sense is that fair?

Posted at 04:46 PM

MORE POP THAN WOODSTOCK [Andrew Stuttaford]
Readers of a sensitive disposition should move on to the next post. The morbid and the curious, however, should look here for details of the most distressing gathering of soft drink enthusiasts since that unfortunate occasion in Jonestown.

Posted at 04:36 PM

DERB A CAPPELLA [John Derbyshire]
The "Prime Obsession" page on my personal website now includes an extremely low quality *.wav file of me singing the song in the book's appendix, a cappella. The low quality arises entirely from the need to keep the file small (i.e. under 5Mb). It is NOTHING TO DO WITH MY SINGING ABILITY.

Posted at 04:30 PM

GEPHARDT'S DEFENSE [Jonathan H. Adler]
Now that he's bothered to read the Constitution -- or has been adequately briefed by somone on his staff -- Richard Gephardt is backtracking on his gross exaggerations of executive power.

Posted at 04:00 PM

THE COLOR OF CYNICISM [Rod Dreher]
Writing in the Dallas Morning News today, Joanna Cattanach says she's in favor of affirmative action in college admissions, based on her own experience. She writes that "color in the classroom makes colleges [sic] a better place. Then she describes herself as an "albino Mexican" with skin so light that people can't tell she's of Hispanic origin. She says she was adopted by an Anglo couple, which means she was raised in an Anglo cultural environment, with an Anglo name. She admits that she became Hispanic for purposes of college admission because her SAT scores were "less than stellar" -- her newfound Latina-ness making it easier to get into college with those scores. Now that she's graduated, she's "glad I chose not to hide my minority status and claimed it along with my culture and heritage... ." So I have to ask: in what meaningful sense is Miss Cattanach Hispanic? She doesn't look Hispanic, by her own admission, or have a Hispanic last name, both of which could conceivably have set her up for discrimination. Furthermore, she grew up in an Anglo home. It sounds to me like she only became a born-again Hispanic when she saw she could use it to her advantage. She had all the presumptive privileges of an Anglo upbringing, but when it came time to get into school, she worked the system to eke out, potentially, ethnically Anglo kids who may have been more qualified on merit. Can somebody please explain to me why this is moral, or something to be proud of?

Posted at 03:31 PM

INDIANS [John Derbyshire]
A reader suggests "autochthon," but adds despairingly that probably only he, me, and WFB know what it means.

Remembering an old Jack Vance story, I myself would like to offer "First Folk."

Posted at 02:53 PM

CONQUEST'S LAWS [John Derbyshire]
Several readers have asked me for Robert Conquest's Three Laws of politics. As best I can remember, they are:

1. Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.

2. Any organization not explicitly and constitutionally right-wing will sooner or later become left-wing.

3. The behavior of any bureaucratic organization can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies.

Of the Second Law, Conquest gave the Church of England and Amnesty International as examples. Of the Third, he noted that a bureaucarcy sometimes actually IS controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies--e.g. the postwar British secret service.

Posted at 02:53 PM

MORE INDIANS [Jonah Goldberg]

Since nobody is posting for some bizarre reason (or maybe because NRODT goes to bed every other Wednesday), I thought this email was interesting:

As an archaeologist, I have at least a professional interest in what terms to use.

Native American -- journalists love this. One journalist from Pennsylvania even told me that I should use the term "Native American" even if a tribal member specifically asks to be called "American Indian". Some groups explicitly reject the term Native American; others don't care.

Under federal regulations, American Indians, Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and other Native Pacific Islanders of the U.S. trust territories are all called "Native Americans."

Also, I've read that "Native American" refers to a social or political group while "American Indian" refers to a biological or racial group. I don't think that is a rule than anyone normally follows.

In Canada, ther term of choice is First Nations. There are no Native Americans or American Indians north of the border.

At a workshop in Idaho a couple of years ago, the academics preferred the term "First Peoples". It hasn't caught on as far as I know.

The best advice I've heard -- on NPR of all places -- is that if you are refering to an individual or to a specific group, then you should always use the tribal name -- Western Shoshone, Northern Paiute, Cherokee, Mescalero Apache, Pima, Barbareno Chumash, etc. If you are making a general statement, as in "American Indian treaty rights" or "Native American gaming," then either Native American or American Indian is okay.

Using the specific tribal name works very well in my case because the tribes differ so much in their traditions, political positions, treaty rights, religious beliefs, etc. that in most cases it simply doesn't make sense to lump them all under one designation.


Posted at 02:50 PM

PROPER NAMES [Jonah Goldberg]

Important info from a reader:

I am a Swiss-German-Irish-Norwegian-English-American. Most of us don't mind being called Swiss-German-Irish-English-Norwegian-Americans, but "German-Swiss-Irish-English-Norwegian-American" and "Swiss-German-English-Irish-Norwegian-American" are generally considered offensive.

I just thought you'd like to know.


Posted at 01:43 PM

RE: INDIANS [John Derbyshire]
Jonah: My objection to "Native Americans" is that allocating this expression to Indians leaves me with no way to say "Americans who were actually born in the U.S.A.," as opposed to those Americans like me who signed up for the project. "Indians" isn't really very good, though, either, as you then have to make clear you're not talking about people from India. We really have a problem here. "Amerindians" has a clunky, contrived look about it. "Aborigines" would be fine, except that so many people would assume you were talking about Australians. Since most Americans of African ancestry seem not to mind being called "Blacks," we could just say "Reds" and "red" (or "Red," if they prefer)... but then that's going to get confusing because people might think we are talking about communists. We really need someone to invent a word here.

Posted at 01:06 PM

DOWD [Jonah Goldberg]

I don't normally read Maureen Dowd any more. Everything she writes feels forced and old. It's like she doesn't realize she was a hot commodity once because back then the zeitgeist rewarded mood and atmospherics and all around trivial thinking and now that the culture has moved on she tries too hard to get a reaction by performing the same old schtick twice as hard (it kind of reminds me of Bill Murray in Groundhog's Day when he tries to force the spontaneity of the snowball fight the third or fourth time).

Anyway, I had no idea she wrote a column today until Andrew Sullivan linked to it. Sullivan's rightly appalled. I doubt the Times will ever be able to come to grips with the fact that Dowd's column gives off the same vibe as watching your parents trying to dance or listening to Al Gore try to speak jive.



Posted at 12:18 PM

MORE ON INDIANS [Jonah Goldberg]

From another reader I didn't know was an Indian:


Some other stuff you may not have run into:

(1) the preferred pronunciation (out here at least) is two syllables: in-din.

(2) "Nation" is preferable to "tribe" -- when my Grandfather was born in the Choctaw Nation, "Indian Territory" was known by the residents as "the Nations".

(3) by a large majority, we *don't* object to names like "Washington Redskins". Indians organize a lot of life around "tomtems", symbolic representations.
For example, I'm a member of Raven Clan. If white people want to make Indians symbolic representations of power and courage and objects of veneration, that's okay. Sort of a shame it didn't happen earlier, but hell -- make it up to us, visit a casino.

Regards

[Name withheld]
(of the Choctaw Nation)


Posted at 11:49 AM

AH, THE MIRTH OF BACHELORHOOD [Jonah Goldberg]

I'm cleaning up my cave and I found this metal sign I used to have hanging in my kitchen when I was a single man. It reads:

WANTED: GOOD WOMAN Must Be Able To Clean, Cook, Sew, Dig Worms And Clean Fish.

Must Have Boat and Motor.

Please send picture of boat and motor.


Posted at 11:45 AM

BACK INTO MY CAVE [Jonah Goldberg]
Well, it looks like my schemes for getting out of the house to write my book will not pan out for the foreseeable future. So I will be working out of my basement office. Since the baby came I've been working above ground with the sun people. But now I must return to the stygian depths. I think I'm going to have to buy a new computer and some vitamin D. This also probably means that I won't need a 9-5, show-up-at-the-office researcher type. So I'm going to dive into the resumés this week. Also, if anyone has a very strong (and very informed) opinion on what kind of Mac I should get or how I can get Apple to give me a computer for "reviewing purposes" for the next 3 years, I'm all ears. Well, not literally all-ears as that would be pretty dangerous as ears are mostly cartilage and that would cause me to lose my respiratory system. But you get my point.

Posted at 11:21 AM

APPRECIATION [John Derbyshire]
Monday evening, a friend of mine who has a spacious apartment threw a book party for Prime Obsession. Over 60 people showed up, including entire cohorts from NR, The New Criterion, and the New York Sun. I had honestly not expected such a turnout. In the case of NR colleagues, it involved a real sacrifice of time, as this was an "editorial Monday," when it's all hands to the oars to get the next issue to press by mid-week. (Colleagues who had to stay to mind the shop are included in all these remarks without discrimination.) In the case of practically everybody, it was a selfless expression of personal support, as my book isn't even about politics or current events in any way, but math, to which most writerly types are ill-disposed. I am stunned and humbled with appreciation and gratitude. I am expressing this, as best I can, to individual attendees as I meet them, but a lot of those I don't see often are readers of The Corner, so I hope they will take this posting as sufficient until we meet. Let me tell you, it's quite something to be in an apartment full of people who have all showed up because of something you did. The event confirmed what I knew anyway: that conservatives are simply the best people there are.

Posted at 10:53 AM

MATH AND SUPREME COURT [Jonah Goldberg]
Woops. I fixed the link below. Here it is again.

Posted at 10:48 AM

I DID NOT KNOW THAT [Jonah Goldberg]

From a longtime reader who happens to be an American Indian:

Don't call us Native Americans.

We are American Indians.

Actually the preferred (non-NY Times) way is Tribal Name (Lakota, Ponca, etc), American Indian, Indian.

Even the founding members of American Indian Movement are against the use of
the term Native American.


Posted at 10:44 AM

HELPING NORTH KOREANS ESCAPE [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Sen. Brownback introduces a bill to make seeking refugee status easier.

Posted at 10:29 AM

MOVEON.COM [Jonah Goldberg]
Since I'm a passionate opponent of all forms of online voting and I think MoveOn.com. is little more than what the Brown University student government would look like if it was transformed into a giant digitized hemorhoid, I'm pained by even calling attention to it. But they're having an online Democratic primary over there. It seems to me that as it is an open primary, everyone should feel free to cast their votes for Carol Mosley Braun, Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton or foot fungus -- whichever candidate would do the best job of bringing "the issues" front and center.

Posted at 10:27 AM

KINSLEY ON THE MICHIGAN CASES [Jonathan H. Adler]
Michael Kinsley calls it as he sees it:
the court is confused if it thinks that a subjective judgment full of unquantifiable factors is obviously fairer than a straightforward formula. But confusion seems to be a purposeful strategy. The court's message to universities and other selective, government-financed institutions is: We have fudged this dangerous issue. You should do the same.

Posted at 10:09 AM

ED CRANE & THE NEOCONS [Jonah Goldberg]
Crane (president of the libertarian Cato Institute) goes after the "neos."

Posted at 09:38 AM

SYNDICATED COLUMN [Jonah Goldberg]
On the Supreme Court.

Posted at 09:30 AM

SUPREME COURT & MATH [Jonah Goldberg]
This is a story for Ramesh & Derb.

Posted at 09:22 AM

QUOTES [Jonah Goldberg]

Lots of readers sending me their favorite Jonah-quotes. Modesty precludes me from posting them here. However, one reader sent me this one from the Derb which I like a great deal:

"Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all, enjoy free health care and 100 percent literacy."

Posted at 09:05 AM

BLAIR BOOSTS FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN IRAN [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
And takes grief for it.

Posted at 07:16 AM

AFGHANISTAN, CAUGHT BETWEEN WORLDS [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Two journalists who were arrested for blasphemy have been released, by order of President Karzai, but will be standing trial.

Posted at 07:15 AM

IMMIGRATION COPS [John J. Miller]
The Center for Immigration Studies is sponsoring a forum on Capitol Hill tomorrow on using local law-enforcement personnel to police immigration laws. It's an interesting idea, though not without its problems--all of it discussed intelligtently in this CIS paper.

Posted at 06:30 AM

FRENCH HAMAS [John J. Miller]
The French government isn't cracking down on Hamas: "There's a lot of intelligence to suggest that the French have become increasingly a conduit for funds to Hamas and that they're just not taking the steps that are necessary," says a State Department official, in this short item from Time magazine.

Posted at 06:10 AM

MOVIE REVIEW [John J. Miller]
There’s a great movie to be made out of William Golding’s novel Lord of the Flies, but the one released in 1990 isn’t it. I watched it last night. The actors are decent and some of the casting is quite good--the boy who plays Piggy looks like a 10-year-old Drew Carey, which is perfect--but the script leaves out important elements from the story and adds a few scenes and details that aren’t necessary. One example: Simon’s dialogue with the sow’s head (which isn’t obviously a sow in the movie) is completely missing, even though it is the moral center of the novel. The film is only 90 minutes long, but it drags and drags. I recently finished reading the book for the first time in many years and wanted to see how someone would interpret it on screen. What a big disappointment. Maybe I’ll try the 1963 version sometime, but my video-rental store doesn’t carry it.

Posted at 05:52 AM

BAGHDAD BOB REPORTEDLY CAUGHT [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
No word on his version of the story.

Posted at 05:14 AM

Tuesday, June 24, 2003

ANGRY READERS [Jonah Goldberg]

They're miffed about my syndicated column on income inequality.



Posted at 07:17 PM

AL QAEDA SWEEP IN MILAN [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Posted at 06:01 PM

ME QUOTES [Jonah Goldberg]

RightwingNews has undertaken the immensely flattering task of compiling the best quotes by me in the last year. It makes for some very interesting reading for me -- how interesting it is for you I have no idea. Personally, I was surprised by how top-heavy with foreign policy stuff it is. I was also struck by how few one-liners there were. I can think of a few columns or quotes I'd have put on the list, but then again I didn't make the list. Still one has to wonder why the the guys at NRO's stalker site -- the G-Philes -- didn't think of doing this. Maybe the suits will come up with a little "Collected Wisdom of NRO" book one day. I think it'd sell pretty well. Anyway, many thanks to RightWingNews and if any readers actually have favorite quotes, I'd be curious to know what they are for purely self-indulgent reasons.



Posted at 05:45 PM

KEMP [Jonah Goldberg]

I liked this letter:


Jonah,

I know, I know, you only wanted folks whose hearts and minds were won over by Mr. Kemp's statement, but I was just wondering if I was the only one shaking my head (making that funny 'waugle-waugle' sound) trying to figure out if there were some paragraphs missing along about grafs 4 and 5? What purpose does it serve for Mr. Kemp to jump from college admissions equity to the practice of red-lining (actually banned by 1975's Home Mortgage Disclosure Act, and really, really banned in 1977 with the Community Reinvestment Act-- when Congress was seriously in the business of banning things they already banned).

From red-lining, Mr. Kemp's jumps to the 1992 FRB Boston study purporting to show a disparity of denials between blacks and whites (17% for blacks vs. 11% for whites). However, George Benston, writing for the CATO Institute in 1999, showed that the 1992 FRB Boston study was flawed. Benston writes:

"...FDIC economist David Horn in 1997 reviewed that [1992 Federal Reserve Bank Boston} study and, in addition to finding mistakes in the data, concluded that more relevant measures of a borrower's credit history, such as past delinquencies and whether the borrower met lenders' credit standards, explained the difference between lending levels to blacks and whites. In fact, 49 of the 70 banks studied did not reject any minority applicants. Two of the remaining 21 were responsible for half of the denials of black applicants. One of those banks was minority-owned, and the other had extensive minority outreach programs."

You can read Benston's article on-line at: http://www.cato.org/dailys/09-28-99.html

Dont' get me wrong. I'm not writing to bash Mr. Kemp. So then, what's the point of all this? First, I guess it's hard enough to debunk liberal misinformation and outdated study results without having conservative leaders like Mr. Kemp perpetuating bad data as facts. Second, the whole jump just seems like a reach, the sort of "feel-your-pain me-tooism" that a lot of liberal lip-biters engage in.

Well I feel better now. Thanks.

[Name withheld]
Dallas, Texas


Posted at 04:39 PM

TO ERR ISN'T TRUMAN [Jonah Goldberg]

A reader defends my whack at Harry:


Jonah,

In your G-file today you wrote:

Being a Democrat from Missouri, and being Dick Gephardt, it's not that surprising Gephardt would cater his comments to whatever the politics demand of him. The last president from Missouri had a similar predilection for telling people what they wanted to hear. H. L. Mencken said of Gephardt's hero: "If there had been any formidable body of cannibals in the country, Harry Truman would have promised to provide them with free missionaries fattened at the taxpayer's expense."
I have to disagree. If Harry Truman had focused on public opinion polls he would not have de-segregated the armed forces which opened the door for the Civil Rights Movement. In 1948 Democrats opposed desegregation. He also would not have recognized the State of Israel. He would not have sacked Douglas MacArthur, as he would have acquiesced to MacArthur's judgment on the conduct of the Korean War. He would not have broken the rail road workers strike.

Harry Truman was a leader first. Like President Bush he relied heavily on his faith, he put great stock in the value of his word and he didn't tolerate liars. Dick Gephardts only common trait with Harry S Truman is that of party affiliation, but remember that Ronald Reagan was a Democrat when Harry Truman was President. Harry Truman was born in the previous century, went to war at the age 33, married and experienced a significant financial setback by age 38, when he held his first elected office. Reagan also came to politics late in life, but Gephardt has been a politician all his life, aside from a 6 year stint as an Attorney in the Air National Guard, probably as a dodge against being drafted for Vietnam.

No, Jonah, I think you missed the mark on this reference. Harry Truman was not as conservative as we might like, but he does not deserve to be disgraced by being associated with Gephardt. And frankly, it is too late for Gephardt to use Truman as a role model, because Gephardt has chosen Clinton as his lodestone.


Posted at 03:58 PM

MORE FROM CEO [John J. Miller]
David Gersten of the Center for Equal Opportunity adds that the University of Michigan resorted to its noxious point system because it receives tens of thousands of applications every year--it needed a cold formula because it couldn't give individual attention to every aspiring student. The law school, by contrast, receives many fewer applications. Unless Michigan hires lots more undergrad admissions officers, it won't be able to replicate the law school model. I'm no optimist about what's going to happen in Ann Arbor--I suspect the undergrad admissions won't change much at all, except now it will be kept invisible. Yet it does suggest that the school--and so many big public universities like it--will be vulnerable to lawsuits in the future. A dim silver lining, perhaps, but a silver lining nonetheless.

Posted at 03:25 PM

CEO SAYS... [John J. Miller]
Here's what the Center for Equal Opportunity is saying about the Michigan rulings: "The Supreme Court decision is disappointing because it is a missed opportunity. The justices could have made clear that race and ethnic preferences can never be used. On the other hand, it remains clear that preferences can be illegal: If the use of race is like the Michigan undergrad admissions system, then it is illegal. Our experience is that the undergrad approach is more common than the law school approach. The Supreme Court has sent everyone back to the trenches. We are happy to continue the fight and hope the Bush administration will join us there in rooting out illegal admissions programs – especially in light of their lukewarm amicus brief filed for the cases. The left is claiming the decision is not just a stamp of approval but a directive to universities to use race. This is not true. The court has not said that preferences are moral or right. It has not sa