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Saturday, May 08, 2004

ABU GHARIB, AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW [KJL]
Iraqthemodel: "What happened in Abu-Gharib should be a lesson for us, Iraqis, above all. It showed how justice functions in a democratic society. We should study this lesson carefully, since sooner or later we'll be left alone and it will be our responsibility to deal with such atrocities, as these will never seize to happen." Read the whole thing.

Posted at 09:42 PM

KERRY USES ABU GHRAIB TO RAISE MONEY [KJL]
Where's the W.-used-9/11-in-a-commercial outcry?

Posted at 07:19 PM

JACKALS [Andrew Stuttaford]

The idea that the appalling abuses at Abu Ghraib can somehow be excused by the savagery of regimes elsewhere in the Middle East is, of course, nonsense, but these words from Lebanese journalist Rajeh Khuri (quoted in the Washington Post) need to be remembered too. Rightly, he condemns the betrayal of American ideals that Abu Ghraib has come to represent, but then he goes on, in a piece entitled “The Chorus of Tearful Crocodiles” to say that what matters is not the rote denunciations in the Arab press of those cruelties, but silence about something else.

"We are concerned with the detention centers and jails filling the tunnels of regimes in the Arab world and the shredding of the soul of Arab citizens and their honor without one official batting an eyelash… Hundreds have perished in silence and out of sight, without even a cold announcement, and thousands have gone into detention and have not returned. . . . Then there are the names of those who disappeared and dissolved like salt between the ocean and the Gulf."

Bush was right to apologize to the Iraqis for what was done, and, politically it may have been shrewd to couch that apology in wider terms to all Arab peoples, but we should be clear about one thing. The denunciations of America by the Arab press outside Iraq has no more moral (politically speaking, it is something else) significance than the sight of a weeping Goebbels. It’s nothing more than the howling of a coterie of hand-picked hypocrites, flaks for the fascists, theocratic or otherwise, who run their countries, journalistic attack dogs who, it seems, have learned to love their leashes.


Posted at 06:26 PM

RESPONSIBILITY [Andrew Stuttaford]

The notion that Americans are incapable of taking responsibility for themselves is a key part of the bloated and overblown ‘war on obesity’. How then to explain yesterday’s announcement by Krispy Kreme that the company was cutting its earnings guidance by ten percent due to the increasing popularity of low-carb dieting?

If Americans can turn away from God’s doughnuts, there is no need to worry about this nation’s collective willpower.


Posted at 05:52 PM

TOLERANCE WATCH [Andrew Stuttaford]

In another example of the sophistication and generosity of Sharia ‘law’ , Governor Ahmed Sani of Zamfara State [Nigeria], has ordered the demolition of all churches in his state.

Meanwhile, an eighteenth century statue in a Spanish cathedral showing St James slicing the heads off Moorish invaders is to be removed to avoid causing “offense” to Muslims. Quite what pious Muslims would be doing within a Christian cathedral was not explained.

Blogger Mick Hartley has more.


Posted at 05:48 PM

'THE CHILDREN', CTD. [Andrew Stuttaford]

I don’t know much about Republican Representative George Nethercutt, but this was not one of his finer moments. Contemplating the possibility (now abandoned) that Major League Baseball was going to allow advertisements for the new Spiderman movie to be plastered all over its bases, Nethercutt decided to get involved, writing a letter to Commissioner Bud Selig, citing, of course, the interests of ‘little leaguers.’ Bah!

America’s new national pastime is clearly politicians sticking their snouts where they not belong, but only of course, in the interests of ‘the children’.

Via, naturally, Radley Balko.


Posted at 05:37 PM

THE PRISON CONNECTION [Andrew Stuttaford]

The New York Times is now taking up the idea that Abu Ghraib can, in some ways, be linked to abuses that seem to be tolerated, or even encouraged, within the American prison system. In time, of course, we may discover (I hope not) that Abu Ghraib was part of a deliberate policy, tacit or otherwise, but looking at the details (and the correctional service background of some of those against whom allegations have been made) it’s difficult not to suspect that there is some connection. A society that condones prison brutality will, in the end, be brutalized. It really is that simple.

Perhaps it’s too much to hope that this will actually happen, but if anything good is to come out of this miserable affair, it should include an overhaul of conditions in this nation’s prisons. You doubt that that’s necessary, well read the Times story and, say, the allegations of Roderick Johnson:

”In a case that began in 2000, a prisoner at the Allred Unit in Wichita Falls, Tex., said he was repeatedly raped by other inmates, even after he appealed to guards for help, and was allowed by prison staff to be treated like a slave, being bought and sold by various prison gangs in different parts of the prison. The inmate, Roderick Johnson, has filed suit against the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and the case is now before the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans.”

It seems like a good moment to repeat the question I put a few weeks ago on the Corner to that ambitious Mr. Spitzer, New York’s attorney general. In the context of the prosecution of a Wall Street trader facing thirty years in jail, Spitzer was quoted by the Financial Times as noting (it seemed, with some satisfaction) that “this is state time…State prison has a certain edge to it that is not always present in the federal system. These prisons are not country clubs.”

I asked then, and I’ll ask again, what do you mean by “edge” Mr. Spitzer?


Posted at 03:26 PM

SMACKDOWN [KJL]
NRO readers should gather in bars to watch Jonah make Aaron Brown cry.

Posted at 02:37 PM

THE LIZARD KING II [Andrew Stuttaford]

Twitching, sweating and angry under the pressure of unaccustomed mockery, the freaks, fanatics and fools who fill the ranks of Iran’s hardline clergy are increasing their attempts to ban The Lizard , the new Iranian movie that satirizes their superstitions, stupidity and self-importance.

The Daily Telegraph is reporting comments from Ahmad Jannati, the head of Iran’s powerful Guardian Council, whining as he grumbles that, "the screening of such movies must be confronted because this makes fun of clerics. It should be banned."

In a way jihad Jannati has got it right. Humor can be a devastatingly effective weapon against the evils of theocracy. No wonder he’s worried. The world needs to see a lot more of such mockery, and not just in Iran. To start with, has, The Lizard, I wonder, been shown in Iraq. And if not, why not?


Posted at 01:45 PM

ME V. AARON BROWN [Jonah Goldberg]

I'll be on Monday night to talk about my column. Here's how he opened last night's show:

AARON BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening again everyone.

The worst is yet to come. That's what the secretary of defense indicated today before the Congress. There are more pictures, many more, and there are videos too and they depict scenes, according to Mr. Rumsfeld, worse than anything we've seen so far.

So should they be seen? Indeed, should the original photos have been seen at all? It will not surprise you to know that to me the answer is clearly yes but I put the question out there tonight after reading a piece today by Jonah Goldberg, who will join us on Monday.

In the piece, Mr. Goldberg, the conservative columnist, argues that CBS, which aired these pictures first and then the rest of us should have sat on them because of the damage they have done. He correctly notes we withhold pictures all the time, people jumping out of the World Trade Center, for example.

Again, he'll join us on Monday to argue his point fully. We'll argue ours in two sentences. You don't appreciate what happened in that prison until you see it. No one did and now the world will judge us not simply by the pictures but how we handled those who were participants in the degradation of people who had no power at all.


Posted at 01:31 PM

PRO-LIFE CURVES? [KJL]
The fitness chain gets grief .

Posted at 11:57 AM

DELIGHTFUL ARAB PRISONS [Tim Graham]
Here's the answer for every Arab journalist trotted out on American airwaves this week about American abuse of prisoners: shut up. When you reform your countries, you can criticize someone else. Let the Americans fix the Americans.

Posted at 10:45 AM

CONCOCTED CONSPIRACIES [Tim Graham]
Brent Bozell finds Michael Moore NEEDS to be censored by Disney (at least temporarily) so his film on censorship will resonate. The radical left has gone beyond blaming Jeb Bush for Moore's plight to blaming Saudi princes who invest in EuroDisney.

Posted at 10:42 AM

WANTING TO SEE RUMSTUD FALL [KJL]
Reading the Washington Post piece on yesterday's hearings (the Senate one, mostly), I can't help but imagine a few gleeful faces in newsrooms across across the nation. As McCain grandstanded a little, someone sang, under his breath, but still audible, "Ding dong, the witch is dead." Of course, he's not. And, I thought he had some of his best moments at the near end of the six hours on the House side (when the print journalists already filed and the prime-time news packages were already set). Anyway, here's some flavor of David Von Drehle's piece:
This image of a powerless secretary unable to summon up a cheap piece of plastic in the face of a "catastrophe," as Rumsfeld described the prison scandal, was a long way from the boldly assured Rumsfeld of a year ago. Back then, during the U.S. military's lightning drive on Baghdad, the civilian architect of two wars in two years described a computerized force in which data leapt from soldier to satellite to smart bomb, in which unimaginable firepower was just a few keystrokes away.

Rumsfeld was a sort of Achilles for the Information Age, and his bold assurance won him a place among People magazine's sexiest humans. President Bush nicknamed him "Rumstud."

Like Achilles, he had a vulnerable heel. Rumsfeld returned over and over again to the idea that the military has effectively handled the prison crisis as a criminal matter but failed to realize that those pictures were, themselves, high-tech dynamite. One-stripe soldiers could zip the disastrous images through the ether, but the Pentagon could not get them onto Rumsfeld's radar screen at even an 18th-century pace.

Posted at 10:39 AM

Friday, May 07, 2004

GMD II [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Jonah, Recognizing it's very difficult for conservatives to have an objective thought about the mainstream media, but please try to imagine the outcry if graphic pictures were shown of the mutilated "contractors" (can we stop calling them "contractors" since they don't do home repair and call them "hired guns" for that is what they are!) in Falluja. Mr. Goldberg, you know as well as anyone, if CBS showed the ghastly close-up photos and video of men hanging upside down burned beyond recognition, Rush, O'Leilly, Jonah and the rest of the cabal would have screamed about the insensitivity of the "liberal media." The simple fact is the prison abuse scandal is an important story that must be told in full. The American people need to know what is happening in Iraq in our name. Our national leadership volunteered this country for this war and we need to know where we stand so we can measure success or failure of this operation as we make a decision in November. Anyone who tries to withhold information or skew this story either doesn't trust the American people with the truth or has an agenda which includes protecting President Bush or both. Thank you for your time.

Posted at 11:57 PM

GREAT MINDS DISAGREE [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

You are kidding, I hope. You blame the release of the photos for doing us damage? The damage was done by the perverts and sadists in Bush's war-profiteering venture. How can you be so dumb as to blame the messenger? The greatest curiousity of your attitude is that you couldn't see that your mother and her ilk should not have foisted destruction on America by going after a private sexual matter by Bill Clinton. And yet you condone this evil and want to keep it hidden. Jonah, you are a dope. And George W. Bush is a sociopath, a pathological liar, and a dangerous creature.

Posted at 11:55 PM

MAYBE THE AD'S A BAD IDEA [KJL]
(I happen to think it is) but referring to people as "theoconservative attack-dogs" does not count as the summit of rational discourse either.

Posted at 05:45 PM

KATE--IT'S NOT SO! [Rich Lowry]
Here, I'll post another e-mail:

"Quick background - West Point grad, former Apache pilot, currently in the National Guard. That line about leadership and discipline being able to keep sexual urges and differences in line is complete crap. Generally in a unit that has strong leadership and good discipline, the effects will be minimized, but they will still be felt.

When a unit has leadership problems, that is where the incidents flourish and the discipline spirals down.

It is hard to be a band of brothers when some brothers are competing to have sex with available sisters.

If you'll notice the units with the strongest sense of cohesion and discipline do not have any women (Special Forces, Rangers and Infantry in general)."

Posted at 05:26 PM

FOX [Rich Lowry]
I'll be on at around 1:30 tomorrow.

Posted at 05:19 PM

BUCK-PROOF [Kate o'Beirne]
The one place where the buck never stops, not within five blocks, is with Congress. Senator John Warner is now deeply worried about accountability and the chain of command. There hasn't been a Secretary of the Army for almost a year (Les Brownlee is testifying today in his temporary, acting capacity) because Senator John Warner has refused to allow the Senate to confirm a new one. On March 2nd at a hearing of his Committee, Senator Warner proudly announced that he was blocking all civilian nominees for the Defense Department because he has his knickers in a twist over the Boeing/Air Force controversy. Good thing there's not a war on. . .

Posted at 05:00 PM

DUMBEST EMAIL OF THE DAY [Jonah Goldberg]

In an email titled "kudos" in response to my column today:

Damn right! And the photos of Auchwitz and Dachau should never have been shown. What did we learn from these? They just distracted us from the more important issues.

ME Now, I've received a lot of dumb email today making a similar "argument", but nothing crams the idiocy into such a tight space. First, we are not akin to Nazis and the moral equivalence is repugnant. Second, the Abu Ghraib abuses are not similar to death camps. Third, it wasn't in the interest of the Nazis to have the images of the camps revealed to the world. It was in the interests of their enemies -- which is part of my point. Fourth, I never said and do not believe that the photos should never have been released, simply that releasing them now does more harm than good. Sigh.


Posted at 04:56 PM

HOW TO PRY THE FACTS FROM MR. ANNAN [Peter Robinson]
Over coffee the other day, John McCarthy, a member of the faculty here at Stanford, offered a wily suggestion. (Note to Derb: You’d love McCarthy. A brilliant mathematician, at 17 he was helping the U.S. Army on problems in ballistics. Six decades later, he remains active in computer science. And in between, he coined the term “artificial intelligence" and invented the computer language known as LISP.)

Since the press (aside, as usual, from the Wall Street Journal) has demonstrated no appetite for investigating corruption at the UN, in particular in the oil-for-food program, McCarthy noted, he’d advise the new government of Iraq to bring suit against Kofi Annan. As early as July 1, the date on which it achieves sovereignty, Iraq could file charges in, say, the Hague. And—this is the important point—it could very plausibly claim damages of between $4 and $10 billion, the low and high estimates of the amount that the UN permitted Saddam Hussein to use for bribing his friends, including friends at the UN itself.

Four to ten billion dollars. That ought to be enough to persuade a few very aggressive lawyers to investigate the UN in a way the press has refused to attempt.

Posted at 04:55 PM

RICH, TELL ME IT AIN'T SO [Kate O'Beirne]
I sure have my work cut out for me when Rich approvingly cites that old canard about gender integration being a non-problem if leadership lays down the rules. The Pentagon's gender sensitivity indoctrination courses take this line. I see it's working in the field despite what our common sense tells us about human nature.

The same rules were in effect during the Gulf War, after which a Rand study documented widespread sexual activity among the bands of brothers and sisters. Along with policing the sexual attractions, jealousies, and fraternizations, that same leadership, of course, is fighting a war. Plenty of studies on unit cohesion support the proposition that sexual tensions and unequal treatment (arising from favoritism or unequal standards owing to sex differences) is extremely destructive. Tougher rules than those cited in Rich's e-mail are imposed on the extremely disciplined, ambitious officers in training at our service academies - every one of which has had sex scandals. Is there a single example of "leadership" meeting this challenge and successfully preventing any of the prohibited behavior among a large co-ed group for a significant period?. . . I didn't think so.

Posted at 04:35 PM

KERRY'S COLORADO BUY [Jim Geraghty]
A Denver pollster with ties to the state Democratic party told me yesterday that the reason Kerry is spending $1 million over the next three weeks in Colorado is the poll numbers for Ken Salazar, attorney general and Democratic candiate for Nighthorse Campbell's Senate seat. The reason they would plunk down that kind of cash in a pretty darn red state (Bush beat Gore 51 to 42 in 2000; a Rocky Mountain News poll in April had Bush up 49 to 40, and the state has 150,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats) is the belief that Salazar may do so well in the Senate race, and bring out so many Hispanics with a newfound loyalty to the Democratic party to the polls, that Kerry could pick off the state's 9 electoral votes.

Analysts Stuart Rothenberg and Larry Sabato, among others, think the phenomenon of reverse-coattails is so rare as to be nonsensical. Rothenberg said, bluntly, it assumes the voters are "idiots," not following or having much opinion about the presidential election, but siomehow passionate about the Senate race. And the popularity of Salazar isn't likely to last as the GOP nominees (either Schaffer, or, more likely, Coors) get up to speed.

Coupled with last month's odd decision to spend money on fundraising ads in New York, California, Washington, Wisconsin, and New Jersey, you've got to wonder if the Kerry advertising strategists are either geniuses, seeing things no one else does, or fools, seeing things no one else does.

Posted at 04:03 PM

KERRY@DLC [KJL]
Here's the speech.

Posted at 03:49 PM

A CHALLENGE [Rod Dreher]
The American Life League is running a provocative ad challenging Cardinal Theodore McCarrick regarding Catholic politicians and abortion.

Posted at 03:45 PM

ILLUMINATING [Jonah Goldberg ]
Israel appoints Arab to its Supreme Court.

Posted at 03:33 PM

GENDER INTEGRATION [Rich Lowry]
E-mail:

“Rich,

All good points you make in the Corner. The solution is not necessarily segregating women from men in the military, though. I’m here in Iraq – we’ve got a no-sex and no-alcohol order here. Period. No sex with fellow soldiers. No sex with locals. No sex with CPA civilians. Also, no beverage alcohol (CPA civilians drink in our presence but our orders prohibit it to military personnel) anytime, anyway, anyplace. Our leaders/commanders are authorized to take non-judicial punishment against anyone who breaks these rules. Thus, this is a leadership issue and a good-order-and-discipline issue; it is not a gender integration issue.”

Posted at 03:19 PM

KERRY SPEAKING TO THE DLC TODAY [KJL]
"The Secretary of Defense apologized... But Truman didn't say the buck stops at the Pentagon... America doesn't just need a new Secretary of Defense. We need a new President of the United States."

Posted at 03:06 PM

POLL RE: RUMSFELD [KJL]
ABC News/ Wash Post poll says he should stay put.

Posted at 02:54 PM

KERRY’S TROUBLES [Rich Lowry]
Just talked to a Republican strategist. He pointed out how John Kerry came out of the Democratic primaries with a 2-1 favorable/unfavorable rating. Now his favorable/unfavorable rating is 1-1. According to the latest Fox poll, 40% of people have an unfavorable impression of John Kerry and 39% have a favorable impression. This is a testament to the effectiveness of the Bush ads. Kerry is now fighting back with bio ads, an essentially defensive action. He still has to prove to the American people he’s a decent guy, rather than promoting his agenda. And the Bush offensive against Kerry isn’t even finished yet. But the Republican strategist I talked to says by no means does this mean that Bush it out of the woods. If you look at presidents who have lost reelection, they have had job approval ratings in the high 30s or low 40s. Presidents who win reelection have job approval ratings in the low to mid 50s. Bush is smack in the middle, with an approval rating of 50% or a little below. This is worrisome, but that Bush has stayed at this level rather than sinking lower despite all the recent bad news suggests the support he has is rock solid. The positive economic news would suggest his job approval won’t go lower. In the latest Fox poll, Bush actually slightly leads Kerry on the question of who can better handle the economy, which represents a reversal of fortune on that issue. Of course, Iraq is still a major wild card and Kerry could still significantly help himself with his vice presidential pick. Stay tuned…

Posted at 02:48 PM

"SUPPRESSION OF THE NEWS" [KJL]
Sen. Mark Dayton says it was "antithetical to democracy" for General Meyers to have called CBS to ask them to delay the photo release in their news report (noting that much of the rest of the story was public info since January). Meyers said he had cause to worry their release could put our troops in danger. That's antithetical to democracy?

Posted at 02:35 PM

ONE GOOD PRIEST [Peter Robinson]
In today’s Wall Street Journal, Bill McGurn writes about the death of Thomas Herron, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia:
I benefited from his counsel over a span of nearly 20 years….But never more than from his example these past seven months, after doctors discovered that a cancer had wrapped itself around one of his veins.

Monsignor Herron came to speak of his illness as a "luxury" that enabled him to think and reflect, to grow in gratitude rather than resentment -- in short, to meet the challenge that Christ himself offered his first priests: "Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of?"
A powerful reminder that many priests remain, even now, saintly and heroic. Read the entire piece here.

Posted at 02:31 PM

TEARING DOWN ABU GHRAIB [KJL]
A number of people, including Republicans, are suggesting we do as much. But, as Rumsfeld just said at the hearing when asked, that's not something we should be deciding at this point. That's up to the Iraqis. Here consensus wants us to move out ASAP, but make decisions like that on the way out?

Posted at 02:24 PM

FOLLOWING ABU GHRAIB [ Jonah Goldberg]
By the way, as far as I can tell the blog Mudville Gazette has done the best job following all of the timelines, developments, issues etc.

Posted at 01:52 PM

HUMANIZING JAMES CARVILLE [KJL]
From a reader:
KLo-

Whatever you might think of him, James Carville is loyal to his bride.

I was sipping and reading at the Books-a-Million in Baton Rouge a coupla weeks ago when Carville walked in, bought three or four copies of the Matalin book and a Joe Muggs cappuccino to go.

Posted at 01:41 PM

"RUMSFELD'S TESTIMONY FOR DUMMIES" [KJL]
Susan Collins seems completely devoid of common sense on this. But she did wind up inadvertantly giving Rumsfeld an opportunity to give a the most basic and clear explanation of what happened. (If his opening statement and prior testimony left doubts that they issued the Jan press release when they knew there were allegations, that the Pentagon did not have the photos since January, etc.

(I say that, by the way, having purchased a few "For Dummies" books in my time.)

Posted at 01:38 PM

RUMSFELD'S OPENING STATEMENT [KJL]
is here.

Posted at 01:28 PM

"WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE" [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Jonah,

You agree with Ponnuru that if Sullivan is right, then the Virginia law is persecution (Ponnuru's term). And yet in that case, you only think the law is "ill-advised" and "they're free to do it". That's tolerance of the radical, anti-gay Right.

Remember, Sullivan's point is that he theorizes the mainstream Right is lying when they claim they only oppose same-sex marriage in the name of marriage and aren't anti gay. Even though the Virginia law may not be a fair test of Sullivan's thesis (Ponnuru's point), you sure gave credence to Sullivan's theory with your reaction.

How about a strong condemnation of the law under Sullivan's interpretation? How about confirming that federalism should be trumped by persecution?

Me: Not quite. Though I should have been more clear: If Andrew's reading of the law is correct, then I agree that the law is ill-advised and wrong. I don't necessarily think the law constitutes persecution in the way Andrew does. And even if it does qualify as some kind of "persecution" -- a fairly nebulous word -- it does not automatically follow that it trumps standards of federalism. For example, we all remember Clarence Thomas' "notorious" conclusion that a prison guard did not violate the constitution when he illegallybeat up a prisoner. Something can be an outrage and a crime and not be unconstitutional.

In my book, for the persecution to justify trumping federalism it would need to meet a standard which justifies federal action, which is a high bar for me. I think I'm being perfectly consistent here in that I opposed, for example, sodomy laws but I didn't find them to be necessarily unconstitutional.


Posted at 01:19 PM

RE: THE HEARING [KJL]
Rich, Lieberman was, indeed, useful and reasonable. And, Jeff Sessions now, is being the stand-up guy he is. But does a Kennedy get the sound byte? And what was up with McCain's drill-seargent like insistence to try to catch someone in a hesistation (which worked, despite the fact Rumsfled seemed to have all the answers, but took the wrong strategy in answering--giving the other guys the chance to put a word in.

Posted at 01:18 PM

CONSERVATIVES VS. SCIENCE> [Tim Graham]
On the front page of the Washington Post, Mark Kaufman reports on the FDA ruling that "emergency contraception" can't be sold over the counter, and the liberal media once again must portray the battle as conservatives versus nonideological public-interest advocates:

"The denial was a major goal of social conservatives, including members of Congress who lobbied President Bush on the issue. Reproductive-rights advocates lobbied equally hard for its approval, and yesterday they criticized the decision as misguided and a historic blot on the reputation of the FDA as a science-based agency."

Not only is one side ideological, only one side is in favor of science? Now let's imagine if the Washington Times reported it this way, and wonder if it would be seen as objective:

"The decision was a major blow to social liberals, who favor minors making their own contraception and abortion decisions without parental knowledge or consent. Parental-rights advocates said they were pleased the FDA put women's health above politics."

That's actually what Wendy Wright of Concerned Women for America said in the Post story -- in paragraph 10, inside the paper. See how you knew the liberal line (we're not for willy-nilly sex, we're for science!) in paragraph 2, but all you knew about the conservative position if you didn't follow the story inside is that they lobbied hard? See the CWA talking points here.

Posted at 01:18 PM

THANK GOD FOR JOE LIEBERMAN… [Rich Lowry]
…an adult, with a true moral sense.

Posted at 01:14 PM

BACK-HANDED COMPLIMENTS DEPT [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader (and for the record I don't consider myself a comedian, I just look really funny naked):

Jonah, I've been reading NRO for a year or so now. While I've always appreciated your politics, I have to admit I initially found you dreadfully unfunny. It took me 6 months or so to figure out you even fancied yourself a comedian. Well, I don't know how it happened, but I've caught myself laughing out loud a few times over the past months. You are definitely funny in my view now. Keep up the good work. I'm sure I'll wake up tonight from a dream in which this line figures prominently: "I'll run your piece when I want beeeyotch [Flex]."

Posted at 01:01 PM

MORE TAGUBA [Rich Lowry]
E-mail:

"Greetings from an Army major in Germany.
While the content of the report has been a source of much discussion around post, the fact that the report can be pulled up on the Internet is quite a bit surprising to me. USA-Today provides a scanned version, which, when I opened on my unclassified computer, led to the obligatory,'Whoah!' when I saw it was a 'SECRET/NOFORN' document. The short of it: Not only classified, but not releasable to a non-American (No Foreign National.)

The conspiracy theorist in me says someone (probably the SecDef) leaked the document. Anyone looking through it and saying the situation wasn't investigated thoroughly is full of hot air. As surprised as I am to see it on the internet, I think it pretty much diffuses any claim the situation wasn't addressed. Must admit that after having done an Article 15-6 investigation or two myself, the general did a pretty good job putting things together."

Posted at 12:53 PM

MOORE'S HOAX [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Jonah,

Note the changed headline on the Independent's Moore story:

Last night: "Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt"

Today: "Moore accused of publicity stunt over Disney 'ban'"


Posted at 12:39 PM

RE: WE'RE THE BARBARIANS [Jonah Goldberg]

Fair point from a reader, though I've always been comfortable with the fact that we're answerable to a higher standard:

You forgot one crucial difference though in your examples. We're the ones who invaded another country for the stated goal of improving their lives. When that is our rationale for occupying a country, it's not surprising that we'll be held to high standards.

Posted at 12:32 PM

RE: WEIGHING IN [Jonah Goldberg]
Ramesh - fair enough. Indeed, that's my position. If Andrew's right in his interpretation, then I think the VA bill's ill-advised (but they're free to do it). But I just don't know that he's right, his certitude notwithstanding. When you find out, please let us know.

Posted at 12:24 PM

ONE REASON I HAVEN'T WEIGHED IN [Ramesh Ponnuru]
on this Goldberg-Sullivan controversy about the Virginia bill: I have no idea what the bill would do. I don't know if the supporters of the bill believe that it would have the effects its opponents claim (such as voiding purely private contracts entered by same-sex couples outside Virginia); I don't know, if there is a disagreement, who is right. The key question is: What does the phrase "purporting to bestow the privileges and obligations of marriage" mean? Is this analogous to the "legal incidents of marriage" I spent so much time debating over the last year? Depending on the answer, the bill could be persecution (Sullivan says that's "the only interpretation of the law"); it could be mostly meaningless; or it could have some meaning I haven't figured out yet. I've got some calls out to try to gain some understanding.

Posted at 12:03 PM

PATENT NONSENSE DEBUNKED [Ramesh Ponnuru]
by Nick Schulz.

Posted at 11:47 AM

THE PAPER OF RECORD, AGAIN [Andrew Stuttaford]

Yes, yes, we all know that, according to the New York Times , Ronald Reagan is somehow responsible for most of what has gone wrong in the world over the last thousand years or so, but it was still surprising to find the following claim in the middle of Alessandra Stanley’s Thursday piece on the demise of Friends:

“"Friends" came along after the Reagan-Bush recession of the late 1980's and early 90's, a period that had fostered shows like "Married . . . With Children," "Roseanne" and "The Simpsons," caustic comedy centered around dysfunctional, financially strapped, families.”

Really? “The Reagan-Bush recession”? Sigh. Let’s take a look again at the record. Married... With Children was launched towards the end of the Reagan presidency, in 1987, a year when GDP was growing between 2-4 percent a year, the fifth consecutive year of GDP growth. Roseanne slouched onto our screens in 1988, another year of solid economic performance. In 1989, it was Homer Simpson's turn to show up and, yes, the rate at which GDP was growing fell that year from around 4% but it was still expanding - by slightly above 2% - in December. By the time the economy finally (and fairly briefly) entered into negative territory, the Gipper had been out of office for almost two years, and all the three shows supposedly fostered by this supposed Reagan-Bush recession were well-established.

The truth is much simpler. Married With Children, The Simpsons and Roseanne were shows designed to reflect the hardscrabble realities of the Everyman existence, a life that can be tough, recession or no recession.

Just ask Al Bundy.


Posted at 11:39 AM

BRIGADIER GENERAL JANIS KARPINSKI… [Rich Lowry]
…has been out very aggressively defending herself in TV interviews. I suspect she would be getting much tougher treatment from her interviewers if they had read the Taguba report. Here is one item from it:

“14. (U) During the course of this investigation I conducted a lengthy interview with BG Karpinski that lasted over four hours, and is included verbatim in the investigation Annexes. BG Karpinski was extremely emotional during much of her testimony. What I found particularly disturbing in her testimony was her complete unwillingness to either understand or accept that many of the problems inherent in the 800th MP Brigade were caused or exacerbated by poor leadership and the refusal of her command to both establish and enforce basic standards and principles among its soldiers.”

Posted at 11:16 AM

RE COLLEGE VOTING, EXAMPLE I [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

For years the small town of Murray, Kentucky had been a dry county. The college students were not allowed to vote unless they purchased a city-sticker. A few years ago they were granted the vote. Now the county is wet and the students can graduate and leave without worring about the increased crime rate. I, personally, am not opposed to the county becoming wet. I just believe that those with a long-term stake in the county should make the decision and not those that will leave shortly. It had no chance of becoming wet without the college vote.

Posted at 11:14 AM

MORE JONAH: [Rich Lowry]
He makes an excellent point in his column today.

Posted at 11:11 AM

JONAH, PLEASE DON’T REVEAL THE SECRETS OF MY EDITING STYLE [Rich Lowry]

Posted at 11:10 AM

LINDA CHAVEZ HAS… [Rich Lowry]
…come in for some criticism for that column The Corner linked to yesterday suggesting that sexual tension among the mixed-gender soldiers at Abu Ghraib may have contributed to the atmosphere of indiscipline there. But this argument is lent more plausibility by the reporting in recent days. Consider Pfc. Lynndie England, who is famous for holding the leash over the naked Iraqi detainee. Well, it turns out she wasn’t supposed to be mixing with detainees at all, but ended up doing so in visits she paid to her boyfriend. This is how the New York Post reported it today: “There, the young reservist was not supposed to oversee detainees, her family claims. Her role was to process and fingerprint Iraqis.

She would regularly visit her fellow reservists assigned elsewhere in the prison, including her boyfriend, Spc. Charles Graner, 35, one of six reservists from the Maryland-based unit now facing court-martial.

Army officials confirmed yesterday that she is pregnant. The baby is known to be Graner's child.

‘She was trained as an administrator - a paper pusher,’ her father, Kenneth England, told The Baltimore Sun. ‘At night, she would . . . see her buddies. They were the ones doing the interrogations.’”

Also consider the other news item of the last 24 hours (mentioned in The Corner yesterday): “One of the disciplined soldiers is a company commander, Capt. Leo V. Merck, 32, who is in trouble for another digital snapshot taken after the prison incidents. He was relieved of command and faces a court martial after a female U.S. soldier accused him of taking digital pictures of her while she was showering. Capt. Merck, a National Guard reservist, stored the incriminating photos on an Army computer, Gen. Taguba’s report says.”

Posted at 11:09 AM

UM RICH, FOR THE RECORD [Jonah Goldberg]

I agree with you about the chaos at the prison. However we should disclose that often after you aggressively edit one of my articles you take your shirt off and flex at me. "I'll run your piece when I want beeeyotch [Flex]."


Posted at 11:05 AM

THE PAOMNNEHAL PWEOR OF THE HMUAN MNID [John Derbyshire]
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Amzanig huh?

Posted at 11:03 AM

AH, YES. WE'RE THE BARBARIANS [Jonah Goldberg]
While the greatest most powerful nation on earth cripples itself with rage, piety and guilt over the humiliation of some prisoners in our care, one of our chief enemies announces that anyone who captures a female British soldier can keep her as a slave But, yes, by all means, let's spend another month or two beating ourselves up over the prison abuses and Don Rumsfeld's arrogance.

Posted at 10:59 AM

CHAOS AT ABU GHRAIB [Rich Lowry]
I just read the Taguba report. Among other things, it brings home what a zoo the prison was. Consider this one little item, and note especially the idiotic muscle-flexing:

“9 June 03- Riot and shootings of five detainees at Camp Cropper. (115th MP Battalion) Several detainees allegedly rioted after a detainee was subdued by MPs of the 115th MP Battalion after striking a guard in compound B of Camp Cropper. A 15-6 investigation by 1LT Magowan (115th MP Battalion, Platoon Leader) concluded that a detainee had acted up and hit an MP. After being subdued, one of the MPs took off his DCU top and flexed his muscles to the detainees, which further escalated the riot. The MPs were overwhelmed and the guards fired lethal rounds to protect the life of the compound MPs, whereby 5 detainees were wounded. Contributing factors were poor communications, no clear chain of command, facility-obstructed views of posted guards, the QRF did not have non-lethal equipment, and the SOP was inadequate and outdated.”

Posted at 10:56 AM

DANG [Jonah Goldberg ]
The badgers are back and they brough their banana phone. This is not World War II code for the troopships leave at midnight.

Posted at 10:53 AM

DISCOURAGING THE COLLEGE VOTE [Jonah Goldberg]

Nick Confessore and his friend at Rolling Stone don't like it when small towns discourage college kids from voting locally. I haven't read the whole Rolling Stone piece, but I am at a complete loss as to why this is such an outrage. College kids, broadly speaking, do not live in the towns in which they go to college. They may go downtown to the record store, they may buy some buffalo wings and beers at the local bars, they may even make a few bucks at the local mall. But they don't -- as far as I know -- pay property taxes, they don't pay any taxes at all save perhaps sales taxes. They don't care about property values, the quality of the schools, the business climate, the traditions, values, standards, prospects etc of the small town they're in -- at least not in the way residents who devote their lives and their children's upbringing do.

So why should it be easy for college kids to vote in local elections? (Or why is it somehow outrageous to ask the question?) I know from my reporting in Burlington that the UVM kids are enlisted by the socialist (yes socialist) leadership of the town to pass all sorts of business un-friendly referenda and the like. If you're a working man in Burlington who lost the opportunity to work on a new highway or construction project because a bunch of Voter-Rocking college kids from out of town passed a no-growth resolution, wouldn't that annoy you?

It's very easy to demand that a town be eco-friendly and whatnot when you're an -- often spoiled -- tourist who has distant parents paying your bills and zero investment in the town's ongoing success. I don't think kids should be barred from voting locally necessarily. But creating standards for residency biased against the temporary visitors we call college students troubles me not in the least.


Posted at 10:45 AM

KIRK ON THE WEB [John J. Miller]
A couple of days ago, I urged readers of The Corner to check out the article on Russell Kirk in the current issue of Chronicle of Higher Education and join an online symposium with Wesley McDonald, the author of a new book on Kirk. To read a transcript of the very interesting symposium, go here.

Posted at 10:33 AM

UNLEASH THE FIRST AMENDMENT VOLUPTUARIES! [Jonah Goldberg]

I blame CBS for the mess we're in.


Posted at 10:33 AM

POOR KRUGMAN'S CAT [Jonah Goldberg ]
Employment is booming

Posted at 10:25 AM

BATTLEGROUND STATES [Jonah Goldberg ]
This strikes me as a useful if slightly over-stated debunking of the battleground state conventional wisdom. I say overstated simply because I get the sense that they are slightly too motivated by civic concerns about includding all voters and the like. I mean there are some states more important than others, even if they change from year to year and election to election. Nevertheless, it's definitely worth reading.

Posted at 10:11 AM

RUMSFELD [Jonah Goldberg]

I tried to get this out on CNN this morning and buttered it.

I think Rummy should walk up to the table, take the oath, offer his prepared apologies and explanations and then, at the end of his remarks, he should take out a long Japanese knife. He should then cut off his pinky. If this Yakuza style contrition doesn't work he should look to the ranking Democrat on the committee and continue removing fingers until he gets a Shogun-like nod that his offering is acceptable. He should then wrap-up up his hand, curtly bow, and then say "I am now pleased to take your questions."


Posted at 10:06 AM

ANDREW RESPONDS II [Jonah Goldberg]
He says he's no radical because his position hasn't changed. Maybe so, but his rhetorical tactics have. It seems to me Andrew used to condemn the gay left for its totalizing attitude toward politics. Andrew's position now is that conservatives are immoral for fighting laws he disagrees with and for not-fighting laws he disagrees with. The only safe harbor appears to be agreeing with Andrew with the same amount of passion as Andrew, otherwise you're a "theocon" or some such. That's not fair. Indeed, he denounces me for being ignorant of the Virginia law and at the same time denounces me as if I were supporting it. That's not fair either. I have advocated from conviction the creation of social space, acceptance and tolerance of gays many times. But Andrew increasingly seems to have the same contempt for my lack of passion about gay rights as a Bolshevik had for a Social Democrat. I just don't think that's a good or smart approach for his side of the debate.

Posted at 07:26 AM

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING FISHY [Jonah Goldberg]
Michael Moore was being himself: He lied about Disney trying to Ban his movie.

Posted at 06:41 AM

PYONGYANG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE [John J. Miller]
So I'm bouncing around the web this morning, fact-checking an article that I'm about to file with my editors. And what do I discover? North Korea has an official web page. If you want to learn about business opportunities in the people's paradise, go here.

Posted at 05:43 AM

STILL NEED A PRESCRIPTION [KJL]
for the morning-after pill.

Posted at 12:10 AM

Thursday, May 06, 2004

THAT LITTLE PARENTHOOD THING [KJL]
Even on the final episode of Friends, Rachel and Ross's daughter was near invisible. It's you and me they said, talking about the future. Um, and, uh, your kid, maybe?

And, I could wonder: how are things likely to be any different for them when a little m-word never came up...

Posted at 10:06 PM

A READER WRITES [KJL]
"I notice that Jonah mentions the honor to be bestowed on Bob Bartley by Hillsdale College, but I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Bartley (and your own Bill Buckley) were honored last week at the Manhattan Institute's Alexander Hamilton Dinner, and not a peep was mentioned in The Corner, or NRO. Wonderful event."

Tis true. Some of us must have enjoyed too much we couldn't put it in words. In all seriousness, it was a terrific event. WFB was in fine form. David Brooks, John Stossel, and Paul Gigot spoke and were excellent (Brooks, introducing WFB, was hilarious) and philanthropist Peter Flanigan was inspiring, talking about the power of private schools.

Posted at 08:11 PM

THIS IS GOOD OF THEM [KJL]
It must break George and Laura Bush's hearts to have decided not to go to their daughters graduations. But they would, of course, create a huge spectacle by going.

Posted at 07:57 PM

LESSONS FROM ABU GHRAIB [ANDREW STUTTAFORD]
Kathryn, if the allegations are true, that captain's sleazy behavior was a disgrace, but I don't think that it's possible to draw any wider conclusions about the effect of pornography in their wake.

Something else to consider is the suggestion (implicitly made here by Instapundit) that the abuse of Iraqis by US troops in Abu Ghraib could be a reflection of the way in which sexual humiliation and violence in American jails now seems to be accepted (and sometimes even celebrated). Of course, we do not yet know all the details of what went on. We know even less about the motivation of the individuals against whom these allegations are being made, but it is striking that a number came from prison guard jobs back home. Now, this could simply be explained by the fact that (a) corrections officers were a natural choice for the army to make when deciding who should work as guards at Abu Ghraib, and (b) that there can always be bad apples in any group. It's also important to stress that the vast majority of prison guards in the US are decent people doing a tough job under very trying circumstances. Nevertheless, it never does any harm to ask again whether jailhouse brutality ends up brutalizing the society that condones it.

The answer, I would think, is clear.


Posted at 06:59 PM

FRIEDMAN TODAY [KJL]
Morton Kondrake just called it "bonkers." Credit where credit is due!

Posted at 06:45 PM

MEN, WOMEN, WAR & ABU GHRAIB [KJL]
Linda Chavez makes a good point:
The men and women who engaged in this behavior abused and humiliated their captives, dishonored their country and deserve severe punishment. But if we want to prevent this type of conduct from ever occurring again, we not only need to punish those responsible but also look at all the possible factors that might give occasion to such abuses -- including the breakdown in discipline and unit cohesion that have gone hand in hand with gender integration in the military.

Posted at 06:01 PM

SAUDI PRINCESS VS. MEMRI [KJL]

Posted at 05:56 PM

FRIENDS FINALE PARTY [KJL]
Gee whiz, Jonah, that would have been a moneymaker! I suppose readers wouldn't care if it were Frasier or Angel instead, as long as they get to hear Derb read TNC.

Posted at 05:54 PM

APOLOGY FEST [Kate O'Beirne]
The media is breathlessly asking whether Don Rumsfeld will apologize tomorrow when he appears before two committees chaired by Republicans to be raked over the coals? For what? Let's agree, at least here in the Corner, that apologies are owed by people who are directly responsible for some offense, to people who have been directly harmed. The former category does not include the American public and the latter category excludes the entire population of the Middle East.

Posted at 05:47 PM

TERRI SCHIAVO'S LIFE STRUCK A BLOW BY COURTS [KJL]
How can a woman in a coma exercise her "right to privacy"?

Posted at 05:42 PM

TOLERANCE [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Jonah,

Remember when gay rights was supposedly all about "tolerance"? This is
more evidence that from the beginning, tolerance was only the means, with
unconditional acceptance always the end goal.

To tolerate something means that one agrees to put up with something that
he or she doesn't particularly care for (cigarette smoking, loud obnoxious
music, conservative opinion, etc.) And more often than not the mental
mechanism used is to simply "tune out" the thing being tolerated. All of
which is to say that the basic attitudes you expressed reflect those of
toleration by any standard definition that I know. And Andrew cries outrage.


Posted at 05:36 PM

A LESSON OF ABU GHRAIB [KJL]
Pornography ain't harmless, kids. Would this really be a total coincidence?:
The head of a U.S. military police unit at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison is under investigation following charges he secretly photographed naked female American soldiers, officials said on Wednesday. Capt. Leo Merck, 32, a member of the California National Guard who commanded the 124-strong 870th Military Police Company, is under U.S. Army investigation and has been relieved of duty, they said.

Posted at 05:32 PM

BARTLEY TO RECEIVE POSTHUMOUS AWARD [Jonah Goldberg]

Just got a press release from Hillsdale. Here's the intro:

Hillsdale College to Confer Posthumous Honorary Degree On Former Wall Street Journal Editor Mr. Robert Bartley

Hillsdale, Mich., May 6, 2004—Former Wall Street Journal editorial page editor and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Robert Bartley is being presented with a posthumous honorary degree of Doctor of Journalism from Hillsdale College. Bartley’s widow, Edith, will accept the degree on behalf of her husband during the College’s 152nd Commencement exercises on May 8, 2004, at 2:00 p.m. Hillsdale College President Larry P. Arnn will present the degree.


Posted at 05:16 PM

PSYCHOLOGICAL REPORTS [Jonah Goldberg]

I've received a few emails along these lines:

Hi Jonah,

One of your correspondents wrote that "the Heritage Foundation database he [Cameron] is incensed about cites exactly four of his articles, all published in a reputable academic journal called Psychological Reports, which is found in countless university libraries."

Though the name sounds impressive enough, Psychological Reports is virtually worthless as an academic journal. It (like the other journals that Cameron has published in) ranks near the very bottom in terms of impact on the field. Meaning, no scientist reads the journal. Andrew Sullivan is quite right to complain about the HF linking to these articles. Cameron's "work" is nothing more than a fig leaf for people who want "reputable research" to cover their naked bias.


Posted at 05:11 PM

RANGEL SAYS TO BUSH: FIRE HIM OR WE'LL IMPEACH HIM [KJL]
re Rumsfeld.

(I slipped that one through my self-monitor.)

Posted at 05:07 PM

I QUOTE KLO TO EXPLAIN WHY KLO WON'T BE POSTING ANYTHING MORE TODAY [KJL]
"If you actually read that sotry I linked to earlier, you would know what didn't seam to phase me when I linked to it"

Posted at 05:04 PM

THE LIZARD KING [Andrew Stuttaford]
As a reminder that the situation in Iran is more complex than is sometimes thought, here's a report on a new Iranian movie satirizing the superstitious thugs now running that unfortunate country. It's playing to packed houses. As the Daily Telegraph describes it, The Lizard follows an escaped thief, Reza Marmoulak (Reza the Lizard), who gives bogus sermons and advice while dressed in the turban and robes of a Muslim cleric, a disguise that apparently gives the film-makers plenty of opportunity to poke fun at the mullahs before the movie's inevitable (and prudent) politically correct conclusion (Marmoulak finds religion). Needless to say, some of Iran's ruling clergy are now calling for The Lizard to be stamped on. Can accusations of 'Islamophobia' be far behind?

Posted at 04:22 PM

RE: SITCOMS [KJL]
Raymond I like. But it is very possible I am strongly influenced by liking Patty Heaton off the show, who plays Ray's wife. (But I do think the show is good--whenever I get to see it.)

Posted at 04:14 PM

HIGH-LARIOUS: BUSH'S SELFISHNESS [Jonah Goldberg ]

It was Diogenes who said he wasn't a citizen of any nation, but a citizen of the world. But it took a member of the Beastie Boys to translate the case for cosmopolitanism into a political indictment of George W. Bush:

"He's just a sick f***. I think we'd be hard-pressed to get someone worse than Bush. I think if you had to sum it up he's an incredibly selfish man and his administration in my opinion puts Americans ahead of people in other countries."

Posted at 04:04 PM

SCARY FLASHBACK--GORELICK FOR CIA! [Rich Lowry]
E-mail:

"9/11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick was mentioned during the Clinton administration as a possible appointment to the CIA and/or Defense Department!

Source: The New Republic (December 2, 1996)

Article 'Cabinet-Making, Clinton Style: E.G.G. Heads'

by Hanna Rosin

Meanwhile, the White House is hiding an ace named Jamie Gorelick, the deputy attorney general who is mentioned for just about everything, including the CIA and undersecretary of defense. 'Can you imagine, the number two in the Defense Department being a girl!' says one justice official. 'The head of the CIA in a skirt! That seems a sentimental historic move Clinton can't resist.' The widely respected Gorelick has only one problem. 'She doesn't come with the right constituency,' says a White House source. 'The women's groups don't see her as one of them.'"

Posted at 03:53 PM

BUSH AT RNC [Rich Lowry]
I was down in Washington yesterday and saw Bush speak at the RNC “Gala.” He gave a ringing campaign speech that lasted about 30 minutes. This may seem a banal observation, but I was struck at just how conservative his speech was. It was all tax cuts and war. His compassionate conservative riff was relegated to a small bit at the end (Ramesh wrote a cover story about this a few issues ago appropriate called “The Death of Compassionate Conservatism”). Bush seemed fully engaged. He seemed to genuinely enjoy his own anti-Kerry jokes and appeared to get teary-eyed when defending his decision to go to war in Iraq. There is no doubt that he is up for this campaign, in contrast to his dad in 1992 and to himself at times in 2000. One disturbing thing was that almost all the speech was backwards-looking, defending things that he has done rather than talking about what he will do going forward. At this rate, if he wins a second term, it might well be a listless one. In the meantime, he is working up quite a campaign stump stem-winder.

Posted at 03:52 PM

RE: ROSS & RACHEL [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Thank you! Even though I'm not a big fan, I do watch the show, and the treatment of their child has been striking. And believe me, I in no way expect realism from a sitcom. But this is ridiculous. From what I've seen, there's no recognition they even HAVE a child--she's going off to Paris, boo-hoo, we'll miss you. Where's the kid? What's going to happen to it? (Him? Her? I don't even remember.) It's a subject worthy of further exploration, I'd say....at the risk of getting hooted at like Dan Quayle.

Posted at 03:49 PM

SITCOMS [John Derbyshire]
Jonah: Yeah, too bad we missed that.

However, if there's one thing that sets my eyebrows on fire worse than a chick show, it's a doofus show. (You know, one where the men are all stumbling doofuses & the smart women run rings round them.)

So we can do the party when "Everyone loves Raymond" reaches the end of its run...

Posted at 03:47 PM

GOLDBERG V SULLIVAN CONT'D [Jonah Goldberg]

Okay here are few thoughts in no particular order:


First, I take it as a compliment when Andrew says I'm anong the "best of them" even if I don't agree with agenda in which the compliment was couched.

Second, Andrew's charges of conservative anti-gay hypocrisy, copping-out, disdain etc. are in this narrow context predicated on his assertion that A) the Virginia law is exactly what he says it is and B) That is is self-evidently so to everyone, including conservatives. I don't know that A or B are true. From that email I posed below it doesn't sound that way.

Indeed, Andrew's tactic of asserting as objective fact that something is outright bigotry and then shaming anyone who disagrees with him is a very frustrating one, most common to protagonists in racial arguments. So-and-so says support for racial quotas are required for non-racists, therefore anyone who opposes quotas is a racist. I'm still far from convinced that anyone who opposes gay marriage is ipso facto a bigot.

Third, I think Andrew does have a good point that conservatives who are more professionally and publicly invested than I am in gay issues are obliged to address events in Virginia, even if it is only to rebut Andrew's characterization of them. So, I guess I do think Maggie Gallagher and Stan Kurtz should respond in some way. But, as I said I don't speak for them and Andrew's attempt to make my personal "cop out" into NR's editorial policy doesn't wash with me.

Fourth, I will concede that being enmeshed in my book has made me more tunnel-visioned than I might otherwise be. And perhaps I would have spotted the Virginia thing sooner.

Fifth, I cannot even count how many times I have written in this space and others about how I favor federalism for gay marriage. Indeed, Andrew has written approvingly of my views on this score in the past. Well, part of the whole laboratories of democracy thing is for different states to experiment. Andrew wants to single out the treatment of gays as particularly and especially worthy of conservative attention at the national level. That's understandable. But from where I'm sitting there are any number of things going on in states relating to criminal law, racial spoils, gender nonsense, drugs, censorship, this, that and the other which I don't approve of but that I would not presume to ban either. Sometimes I comment on them, sometimes I do not. But I don't make a point to follow nearly any of these trends as closely as Sullivan follows gays. This might be a sign of too much indifference on my part to some readers, but it also my be a sign of Andrew's excessive focus on gays to others.

Last: If my comments are as profoundly revealing as Andrew says, I want a raise. Just kidding (wink wink).

However, I do think it is quite revealing when Andrew says that he sometimes wishes conservatives hated gays rather than not being bothered by them. It's revealing on two counts. First, I think it displays how radical Andrew is becoming on this issue, wanting everyone to be as radicalized as himself. It's also revealing because at a time when gays are making unprecedented progress in America and the world (and even the Virginia thing strikes me more as a halting of gay progress than a reversal of it), Andrew can see a conservative who's not particularly bothered by or about gays as more troubling than someone who sputters with hatred at them. This if-you're-not-with-us-you're-against-us approach doesn't strike me as very sensible (or conservative). Indeed, it doesn't even sound like the Andrew Sullivan who's done more to win hearts and minds on gay issues than anybody on the right.


Posted at 03:43 PM

RE: HELL IN RUSSIA [KJL]
If you actually read that sotry I linked to earlier, you would know what didn't seam to phase me when I linked to it: it's not about sex trafficking. It was hellish for those poor girls. Sex trafficking is terrible and Bush has led on the issue. But this is not an example of that. Apologies.

Posted at 03:36 PM

ANDREW RESPONDS [Jonah Goldberg ]

I'll post his response in full:

This strikes me as a revealing comment by one of the most enlightened conservatives at National Review, Jonah Goldberg:


"Most conservatives who don't regularly write about "gay issues" refrain from doing so for a fairly simple reason: they don't care about them very much one way or the other. Speaking solely for myself, I don't track every event in the world of homosexually oriented public policy. The first time I hear about most of these sorts of things is from reading Andrew Sullivan's site. I think this is a sign of my generally libertarian attitude toward gay stuff. I don't think the silence of conservatives on such events as those in Virginia is a sign of our approval, my guess is it's a sign of our ignorance."


This is a cop-out on many levels. National Review regularly and rightly publishes many, many articles on the issue of marriage rights and gays. They have recently run several pieces about the issue in Norway, Holland and Scandinavia - even down to nuances such as variations within Norway. They are covering the national debate as they should. How many pieces have you read about Massachusetts in NRO? But a major state has done something just as radical as Massachusetts in reverse. And Republicans who have said they do not seek to harm gays do not comment when Virginia does such a thing. This cannot be an oversight. It is deliberate blindness to their own extremes. Jonah's second point is simply insulting. If one half of a gay couple cannot visit her spouse in hospital minutes away from where Jonah lives, he's not interested enough to worry about it. And I repeat: Jonah is the best of them. Conservative opinion on gays ranges from boredom to outright hostility and animus. There are times when I prefer the animus. Hating someone at least takes that person seriously. Not being able to be bothered while a minority is persecuted (and that's the only interpretation of the Virginia law) is the moment when inactivism becomes indistinguishable from moral abdication.

I'll have more to say about this in a few minutes.

Update sorry for the bad formatting of this before. I fixed.


Posted at 03:00 PM

GAYS, SULLIVAN, IGNO-CONS ETC [Jonah Goldberg]

Two views:

As a gay modcon, I have to reluctantly concur with your observations. OTH, ain't nobody perfect nowhere. You raise issues Andrew doesn't spend much time on, and vice versa. All I can add in his defense, though, is that things always look different to minorities than they do to majorities. It's just an unfortunate fact of life. From AS' (and my) point of view, hypocrisy on gay equal rights is screamingly awful, but to a straight person who is clueless on what it's like to be gay in America, it is equally possible to ask, "what's the big deal?" Ah, life--where's the manual?
And...

Jonah,

Andrew Sullivan is "on a tear" about Paul Cameron, all right. Like you, I know nothing about Cameron in general, but I would note that the Heritage Foundation database he is incensed about cites exactly four of his articles, all published in a reputable academic journal called Psychological Reports, which is found in countless university libraries (including the fairly modest one at my university). Surely Heritage is not responsible for investigating everything about Cameron's life, non-academic writings, and opinions on public policy, just because it cites his peer-reviewed work in psychology.
As for Virginia, here is the full text of the law recently passed that has Sullivan so outraged:

A civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement between persons of the same sex purporting to bestow the privileges or obligations of marriage is prohibited. Any such civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement entered into by persons of the same sex in another state or jurisdiction shall be void in all respects in Virginia and any contractual rights created thereby shall be void and unenforceable.

This can be hardly be said (in Sullivan's words) to be a law that "voids civil unions of any kind, under any name." Only those that "purport" to "bestow the privileges or obligations of marriage" are "prohibited." The legislature clearly wanted to head off any effort to create civil unions that are gay marriage in all but name. And if they're against gay marriage, why not?


Posted at 02:34 PM

RE ROSS AND RACHEL [Jonah Goldberg]
I hope I didn't ruin the surprise for anybody. I don't have any inside info but we all know (save Derb) that this is the only possible outcome. The only question is whether they simply throw their daughter to the wolves so they can have a more romantic relationship. Seriously, I'm not a regular watcher any more, but that show's treatment of parenthood -- as if it's only slightly more inconvenient than house-sitting for a friend and slighly less than taking care of someone else's dog -- has been scandalous. Then again, taking a show seriously where a paleontologist in New York City lives like a dotcom millionaire isn't exactly a good idea.

Posted at 02:24 PM

I SHOULDA THOUGHT OF THIS EARLIER [Jonah Goldberg]
We could have raffled off tickets to a "Friends Finale Party" at Derb's house. Fans of the show could watch him read the New Criterion as Ross and Rachel finally get back together.

Posted at 02:12 PM

RE MANDELA [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Dear Mr. Goldberg,

After reading both of the obituaries, I could not help thinking that the NY Times published an article about Nelson Mandela on the occasion of his first wife's death, while the Washington Post published an obituary that was truly about Mrs. Mandela, her life, and her point of view.

The Times becomes trashier day by day.


Posted at 01:13 PM

PRIME OBSESSION PAPERBACK [John Derbyshire]
Penguin told me the paperback PRIME OBSESSION was set to appear in July. Now I see the bookseller web sites saying it comes out May 25, and can already be pre-ordered. More details here

Authors are, in their relation to publishers, like cuckolded husbands -- always the last to know.

Posted at 12:42 PM

HELL IN RUSSIA [KJL]
Ordeals like the ones these two girls went through remind one why it is so important W.'s put sex trafficking on the world's radar screen.

Posted at 12:24 PM

RE: THE LIE [Jonah Goldberg ]

Michael - I agree, but I think it's even worse than that. It was a lie that it was a lie in the first place. Joe Wilson now admits in his book that Iraq did in fact inquire about uranium in Africa, or at least that's what Wilson's own source thought at the time. So all of the Wilson-inspired hoopla (or horse shinola) that it was all a lie was in fact not true. Bonus fun: The Iraqi agent who allegedly sought yellowcake was none other than Baghdad Bob himself. You can read all about this in the Washington Post.

None of this justifies deliberately outing Wilson's wife -- if that's what happened -- but if Wilson was as dishonest (or incompetent) as he now seems to have been when he was grandstanding on this specific allegation, it's not surprising that folks at the White House hated his guts.



Posted at 12:18 PM

A DEMOCRATIC SENATE? [Ramesh Ponnuru]

Fred Barnes notes that it is theoretically possible for the Democrats to regain the Senate even while Bush wins re-election--if Daschle also wins re-election, Democrats lose only two races among the five in Georgia, the Carolinas, Florida, and Louisiana, and the Democrats pick up all four of the vulnerable Republican seats in Alaska, Colorado, Illinois, and Oklahoma. Everything Barnes says is true, but he doesn't say whether he thinks that a Democratic takeover of the Senate is more likely than an increased Republican majority. I think just looking through the conditions listed above suggests that Republicans are still likely to pick up seats.

I would also add that even if the Democrats net two seats, in their dream scenario, conservatives will have the same number of solid votes--the two gains in the South will neutralize the losses in Illinois and Oklahoma. (Indeed, people who are tougher on Senator Fitzgerald of Illinois than I am may consider that a pick-up.)


Posted at 12:07 PM

LIBERAL LIE THAT WILL NOT DIE [Michael Graham]
I happen to agree with columnist Richard Cohen that President Bush should have fired George Tenet long ago and that one of his greatest failings is not holding people responsible for their actions. But then Cohen undermines his own case by quoting this undying error of the Left:

"Or take Condoleezza Rice. Should she have known that Bush was blowing smoke when he told the nation that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from Niger?"

AAARRRGGGHHHHH! Would you please stop it? For the one hundredth time, here is what President Bush said in the State of the Union address regarding Iraq, yellow cake and Niger:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

That statement is true, and it's backed up by continuing discoveries in Iraq that Hussein--who had a French-back nuclear program in the 1980s--never gave up his aspirations for nuclear weapons.

Could someone kill this canard once and for all?

Posted at 11:51 AM

WILLIAM KRISTOL & ERIC COHEN [Ramesh Ponnuru]
I am delighted to see them come out, in the Standard, for the Kass council's unanimous proposals on embryo research. These proposals would advance pro-life goals more than any recent piece of legislation, but many pro-lifers have objected to them for (I think) misguided reasons.

Posted at 11:48 AM

REPUBLIC OF NICE [John Derbyshire]
(That is one of Flo King's names for the USA in this era.) I thought S.T. Karnick's piece on "Friends" very good. It caught the true sappy awfulness of the thing.

My wife, by threatening me with grievous bodily harm, once got me to sit down and watch an episode of "Friends" with her. About five minutes into the show, this big red flashing light and jangling klaxon started going off in my head, with a voice yelling: "CHICK SHOW! CHICK SHOW! ABANDON SHIP!" I faked a bilious attack and ran for the bathroom.

Posted at 11:44 AM

OIL CRASH [Jonah Goldberg]
Man, it's like dozens of readers had been lurking for years waiting for me to mention the "oil crash thesis" so they could send me their term papers and pet theories. It's interesting stuff, but I hate to inform some folks that I am not interested in making energy issues and oil markets my life's calling.

Posted at 11:37 AM

P.S. ABOUT ANWR [Steven Hayward]
Regarding ANWR, the General Accounting Office did a study last year of the more than 500 national wildlife reserves in the U.S. and it turns out that we produce oil and gas or extract minerals on more than 100 of them. (And the Audubon Society allows oil and gas production on one of its own wildlife reserves.) Not much talk about environmental disaster at any of these sites. So producing oil in ANWR is not without precedent.

Posted at 11:30 AM

LOVE MEANS NEVER HAVING TO SAY I'M SORRY [KJL]
Does anyone doubt that Bush would be considered just as uncaring and unresponsive by U.S. and Arab media if he had explicitly apologized?

Posted at 11:28 AM

DENOUNCING LACK OF DENUNCIATION [Jonah Goldberg ]

Andrew Sullivan is on a tear about the Right and gays again. He makes some legitimate points. For example, I don't know anything about Paul Cameron except what his critics say about him but if Andrew's right about him, conservatives shouldn't have anything to do with Cameron.

But this sort of raises my problem with Andrew's approach in this post:

The other insistence by those opposed to equal marriage rights is that they are not averse to private contracts that might amount to some sort of civil unions. "See?" - they say. "We don't hate gays. We just love marriage!" Yet in Virginia, a law was just passed that explicitly denies the validity of any such contracts, voids civil unions of any kind, under any name, and may eventually be struck down by the Supreme Court for the radicalism of its attempt to prevent even private legal arrangements to protect such things as hospital visitation. This was a Republican-sponsored measure, and exposes the lie that the Republican party is tolerant of gays but draws the line at marriage. Have you heard Stanley Kurtz or Maggie Gallagher oppose this law? Have you heard a single conservative commentator worry about it? Recall that Kurtz is aware of five same-sex marriages in a remote region of Norway but is apparently unaware of what has just happened in Virginia.

Stan and Maggie can answer for themselves. But as a conservative who came out (pardon the phrase) in favor of civil unions a long time ago, I think Andrew's missing a basic point. Most conservatives who don't regularly write about "gay issues" refrain from doing so for a fairly simple reason: they don't care about them very much one way or the other. Speaking solely for myself, I don't track every event in the world of homosexually oriented public policy. The first time I hear about most of these sorts of things is from reading Andrew Sullivan's site. I think this is a sign of my generally libertarian attitude toward gay stuff. I don't think the silence of conservatives on such events as those in Virginia is a sign of our approval, my guess is it's a sign of our ignorance. Besides, every day I have to pick and choose what I am going to get outraged about enough to denounce. I have a full plate.

But it seems to me that to require regular denunciations on all issues gay advocates consider outrageous is unfair and counter-productive. Unfair because it in effect is demanding that everyone be as passionate about gays as gays are and counter-productive because mau-mauing conservatives into making choices may not move them into making the choices gays would like.

As for the substance, all I know is what Andrew says about it but I think Virginia's move sounds wrong. I think it's crazy to deny adults the ability to choose who can visit them in the hospital or the ability to share property. However, as a supporter of federalism, which Andrew claims to be as well, I don't know exactly what he wants conservatives at the national level to say about Virginia's democratically decided decisions. If it's okay for Massachusetts to be 100% in favor of gay unions up to and including marriage, and if Barney Frank is right that it's nobody's business but Massachussets' what Massachussets does, why is what Virginia does so different?



Posted at 11:17 AM

RE: LOOMING OIL CRISIS [Steven Hayward]
Jonah: I wouldn't put too much stock in the oil crisis talk. While a political disruption (the collapse of Saudi Arabia) would indeed roil the market severely (but that's what our Strategic Petroleum Reserve is for, not to mention the military), a political shock should not be confused with an intrinsic shortage of oil, which is what Erdman does with his reference to "Hubbert's Peak." This "production peak" talk has been recycled enough times to close down several landfills. It is no more likely to be true in the next few years than it was in 1970 when it first surfaced. I'm planning to write a long piece about this whole business over the summer.

Posted at 11:12 AM

RE: NEXT! [John Derbyshire]
Incidentally, I note that the little inspirational video about jury service that we all had to watch at the beginning of yesterday's proceedings featured Ed Bradley and Diane Sawyer. Couple of questions on thst.

1. How did this pair of raddled old lefties get to be the public face of jury service? Sean Hannity wasn't available?

2. I have a dim recollection -- perhaps a reader can refresh it -- of a gossip column item (prob. Cindy Adams) from a couple of years ago about Lesley Stahl showing up for jury duty in Manhattan, and being excused because she was "working on an important project." Do Ed Bradley and Diane Sawyer actually perform jury duty when called? Or are they, like their colleague Lesley, too darn important?

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