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Saturday, February 12, 2005

DIZZY DERB [Ramesh Ponnuru]
I thought the crux of our disagreement concerned the extent to which it makes sense to think of the domestic energy markets in isolation from the world markets. The view you attribute to me is nonetheless close to the one I actually hold: that we have an interest in the political character of Mideastern regimes, and this interest is related to the region's oil. Even if you disagree with those contentions, I'm sure you'd agree that it does not simply follow from them that we ought to use military force to transform the politics of the region. The considerations you adduce--e.g., the probability of success--would be among the things that might prevent that conclusion from following.

Posted at 07:38 PM

THE DERBYSHIRE INDEX [John Derbyshire]
I really wish some knowledgeable journalist in Iraq would take me up on this. Meanwhile, it seems that I UNDER-stated to cost of that cab ride from Baghdad airport to the Green Zone:

"Dear Mr. Derbyshire---I read your suggestion on the Corner about the Derbyshire Index (how much a ride costs between the airport and the Green Zone), and I did some research on the subject. As of late November(the 19th), the trip cost $5,180 for the entire way, or 340 dollars per mile. So that is a starting point at least; if it has gone down since then, well maybe the violence has decreased. On the other hand it might still be at that level, which means nothing has really changed."

So what is it currently? This would be a really good thumbnail guide to how well things are going in Iraq.

Posted at 05:28 PM

NAZI MATHEMATICIANS [John Derbyshire]
A reader: "Mr. Derbyshire---I can offer one more mathematician with Nazi sympathies: Gerhard Gentzen, who worked with Hilbert towards the end of Hilbert's career. Gentzen isn't on the same level as Hilbert, but he certainly ranks as one of the better mathematicians of his generation. Among other things, he invented cut-elimination, one of the main techniques of proof theory. As for his Nazi connections, it's my understanding that he was a true believer. I had been told (and the information here seems to confirm) that he was in the SA."

Posted at 05:25 PM

RE: DECLINE OF WESTERN CIV [John Derbyshire]
Some come-backs on this posting of mine (yesterday), centered around the presumed age demographic of NRO. "Don't they teach ANYTHING in school nowadays?" I wondered in the post. Readers say that since our readers are largely old fogeys, the question is off point.

Our age demographic is fine, thanks very much. At the very crowded convention-week bash we invited readers to last fall, I should say the median age was close to 30. "I am a student" is one of the commonest self-identifications in reader emails I receive.

In my comments on the Ancient Mariner, I naturally assumed that all my readers over 40 know the poem; it was the others that my blast was directed at (or rather, their teachers). Knowing, as I do, that these young readers are legion, it seemed a natural thing to say.

And please note that some younger readers have already been enlightened about the A.M. by John J. Miller's fine piece on Iron Maiden's Powerslave.

Posted at 05:23 PM

DEFEND THE 527'S [Andrew Stuttaford]

We may have not always liked what they had to say, but one of the more refreshing aspects of the recent election was the emergence of the 527s who threw money, passion and greater popular involvement into the electoral process. In consequence (and regardless of what you thought about the result) as a civic exercise the election was something of a success.

Unsurprisingly, this has infuriated the same Washington barons who brought us McCain-Feingold-Bush. There are now attempts to crack down on the 527s. As I said, no surprise there. What is disappointing is that other previously more principled politicians have now joined in the attempt to suppress free speech. Ryan Sager has more on this topic in an excellent piece that can be found here. As I read it, these words from the end of Animal Farm came to mind:

“There was the same hearty cheering as before, and the mugs were emptied to the dregs. But as the animals outside gazed at the scene, it seemed to them that some strange thing was happening. What was it that had altered in the faces of the pigs? Clover's old dim eyes flitted from one face to another. Some of them had five chins, some had four, some had three. But what was it that seemed to be melting and changing? Then, the applause having come to an end, the company took up their cards and continued the game that had been interrupted, and the animals crept silently away. But they had not gone twenty yards when they stopped short. An uproar of voices was coming from the farmhouse. They rushed back and looked through the window again. Yes, a violent quarrel was in progress. There were shoutings, bangings on the table, sharp suspicious glances, furious denials. The source of the trouble appeared to be that Napoleon and Mr. Pilkington had each played an ace of spades simultaneously. Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

Senator Lott, you can do better than this.


Posted at 03:11 PM

THE NEXT DEBATE? [Andrew Stuttaford]

One of the more interesting developments over the next few months is the way in which two issues – ‘Brussels’ and multiculturalism/immigration - may well collide.

A few weeks ago, Britain’s opposition Conservatives were in effect told that in the extremely unlikely prospect of a Tory win in the forthcoming elections, the party's (modest) attempts at immigration reform would simply not be permitted under EU law.

In Denmark, one of the reasons cited by the victorious center-right (there has just been an election) for declining to enter into formal coalition with another party on the right (the anti-immigration Danish People’s Party, which is now the third largest in the country) was the DPP's opposition to the EU ‘constitution’. Now, the Danish People’s Party has many faults, and is not always very likeable, but it has clearly understood what a more federal EU will mean for Denmark’s ability to decide who it admits past its borders. Its more mainstream associates on the Danish right (who while in government have clamped down on immigration) have not.

Meanwhile in the London Spectator (February 5th, subscription required, even for, sigh, print subscribers), the often obnoxious and frequently brilliant Rod Liddle has this to say in the course of a fascinating article on Holland’s problems with integrating its Muslim minority.

“…All of this is aided and abetted by the European Union, its liberal immigration laws, its espousal of multiculturalism and, crucially, it’s implicit disavowal of the concept of a sovereign nation state with a coherent national identity.”

He’s right.

Expect to hear much, much more on this topic.


Posted at 02:13 PM

‘INTELLIGENCE’ SERVICE [Andrew Stuttaford]

The Dutch Report blog is reporting that the head of the (doubtless feared, and possibly legendary) AIVD (the country’s intelligence service) has given his first interview since the ritual slaughter of Theo van Gogh. The Dutch Reporter highlights this comment (I have tidied up the English a little):

“I think that we should realize that the way that we sometimes agitate in an extreme way against Islam makes it more likely that people who are already unstable will go in the direction of radicalism than moderate their opinions”

Translation: if you are even thinking about criticising extremist Islam, keep your mouth shout. Over in Britain, Blair’s proposed religious hate crimes law is based on very much the same type of thinking and, somewhere up high, or maybe down below, the ghost of Neville Chamberlain is smiling…


Posted at 02:04 PM

CONSERVATIVE PHD--I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK [Steven Hayward]
Since I have both a Ph.D and an M.A., I suppose I ought to weigh in on this thread. I went to Claremont for political science 25 years ago because it was one of the few graduate programs that had more than one conservative on the faculty, and had a curriculum that covered serious instead of frivolous subjects. About one-fourth to one-third of the relevant faculty, and roughly half of the graduate students in the department, were conservatives, which meant that we totally dominated the place. This is what liberals really fear: they may tolerate one conservative in isolation, but get two and you have a critical mass that takes over the place. Allow three conservatives on campus and it is all over for them. At Claremont it drove the new lefties crazy that they had do few students doing dissertations with them. To their great credit, some of the old New Deal liberals on the faculty (such people are downright right-wing on today's campus) recognized that their best students were the conservatives who came to study with Harry Jaffa, Bill Allen, Jim Nichols, Harold Rood, etc and spilled over to their courses. That made some of the old liberals our allies in the academic fights. It is a long sad story, but Claremont Graduate University (not yet Claremont Mckenna College, but watch out) mostly succumbed to political correctness and trendiness.

I went to graduate school with no intention of entering the university, because I knew how bad it was getting. I actually went to graduate school for the quant reason that I didn't think I knew enough about politics and history to write seriously about it, and needed some time to germinate. And I knew that think tanks (PRI, AEI) would be a better alternative to university life. Most (not all) of my classmates have teaching jobs, usually at smaller, red-state colleges, and are reasonably happy, but on the merits many of them deserve to be department chairs or senior pooh-bahs at the top universities, but have been prevented from doing so by political correctness. But Mansfield is right: the ones who didn't teach are now helping to run the country in the Bush Administration.

Posted at 09:31 AM

SECRET OF WEDDED BLISS [John Derbyshire]
The husband of a couple married for 72 -- count 'em, 72 -- years: "My wife is a wonderful person. She never asked for anything, and I never gave her anything."

From America's Newspaper of Record.

Posted at 09:30 AM

DERB TV [John Derbyshire]
I shall be on C-Span yet again Sunday evening around 11:15 -- replay of the IWF/Tom Wolfe thingy.

Posted at 09:29 AM

RE: OIL [John Derbyshire]
Ramesh: I am starting to get dizzy here.

You said: "...it does make a difference whether those regimes can throw the world economy into a tailspin."

To which I replied: "Their ability to do so is much exaggerated. We survived '73. See also the excellent Huber article in the WSJ a couple of weeks ago."

That is not the same as my saying that '73 was inconsequential (cf. "I survived cancer"), or that I couldn't care less if such a thing were to happen again. I would prefer to avoid it. I just don't think it would be as catastrophic as "throw the world economy into a tailspin" implies. And further, as I also said, if anything so dire looked like happening, there are dire things we could do. And, contra you, I believe we would do them (more to the point, I believe that the ME bad actors believe we would do them) -- though our will to do them would be weaker after a multi-year failed, or ambiguous, engagement with Iraq, which I believe the most likely outcome of present policies.

I say again: I desperately wish we were not so dependent on Islamic oil. There would then be less need to fret about these dismal scenarios. And the frustrating thing is that there are things -- legislative and fiscal tweaks -- that we could easily do to wean ourselves from this unattractive habit of dependence on ME oil. Not only do we not do them, we do all the opposite things. Compare the size of a U.S. family car now with one in 1973.

The crux of our disagreement is your notion that we must transform the politics of the ME because its oil is such a vital component of the world economy. I say: (a) It may not be as vital as all that (see the WSJ article I cited); (b) To the degree that it is vital to our own economy, that is our own silly fault, and I wish things were otherwise; and (c) For all of that, I believe we can improve the situation and preserve our own security without embarking on grandiose liberal culture-transforming Wilsonian adventures, which, I believe, have a low probability of success.

Now, aside from all that, the more I think about my follow-up suggestion, the more enamored of it I am. Here it is again:

"A few weeks ago, well before the Jan 30 elections, I read somewhere that it costs at least $2,000 to get from Baghdad airport to the Green Zone -- because of the danger. Does it cost less now? Or more?

"Perhaps we could use the cost of that cab ride as an index of progress in Iraq. Someone should post it daily, like a stock index."

Will someone with access to the necessary figures please do this? It would be like that MacDonald's Index the Economist used to print -- the purchasing-power parity price of a Big Mac in various countries, as an index of the strength of various currencies. If any competent person feels like doing this, I hereby give them permission to name it "the Derbyshire Index."

Posted at 09:23 AM

THE POLITICS OF MATHEMATICIANS [John Derbyshire]
A year or so ago I wrote the following on my own web site, in re the intersection of math and politics. The point in my last paragraph is, I believe, the important one:

Q. Do mathematicians as a whole have any political tendency?

A. Historically, I cannot see one. You can find great mathematicians of all political persuasions. Cauchy was an extreme reactionary, Galois a radical, and so on. There are two mathematicians in my book who were sincere Nazis: Bieberbach and Teichmüller. Neither was of the first rank, but both were much better mathematicians that you (almost certainly) or me (indubitably).

From hanging around with mathematicians while working on Prime Obsession, I should guess that an American mathematician in our own time is more likely to vote Democrat than Republican. That, however, is true of academics in general. A liberal would argue that this demonstrates the superior intellectual content of Democratic policies; a conservative would argue that it demonstrates the ivory-tower nature of those policies — the fact that they have as little application to everyday life as, well, analytic number theory.

The most general statement I am willing to make in this area is the following: If you are going to do mathematics at the highest level, you will not have much time or brain-power left to think about anything else in a serious way.

If I am right about that, one would expect that the principal characteristic of the politics of professional mathematicians would be un-seriousness. Either a mathematician will, like Riemann, never bother to question the political ideas he heard in his childhood home; or else, if he develops strong political opinions of his own, those opinions are likely to be wacky and extreme. The ease with which confirming examples of the latter type spring to mind suggests to me that I am on to something here. Look at the glimpse of Hardy's politics I give in Chapter 14.iii of Prime Obsession, for instance. Bieberbach and Teichmüller can be mentioned again in this context, too. And let us not forget that Theodore Kaczynski, the Unabomber, holds a Ph.D. in math from the University of Michigan, and taught math at Berkeley...

Posted at 09:21 AM

SUGARY-MORNING BLISS [Tim Graham]
If you thought I was joking about having a thing for sugared kiddie cereals, I should report that the wife bought me three boxes of Quisp on the Internet for my birthday this week. Growing up in the 1970s, my five siblings and I could polish off a box in one morning. Quaker Oats made Quisp (the quazy space alien) and also Quake (a burly earthling). Taste-wise they were both clones of Cap'n Crunch. Quaker didn't go wrong until they tried to make "Quangaroos," an orange-flavored cereal. That's the box that sits in the pantry until ants and spiders eat it.

Posted at 09:15 AM

LOGOPHILE [John Derbyshire]
A reader has actually emailed in to thank me for having used the word "equiponderant" on nationwide TV yesterday.

You are welcome, Ma'am. I only wish I could match the achievement of the late great Samuel Johnson, Ll.D., who, in one of his "Rambler" essays, used the words "adscititious" and "equiponderant" BOTH IN THE SAME SENTENCE.

Posted at 09:14 AM

DECLINE OF WESTERN CIV [John Derbyshire]
I have been dismayed and saddened at the number of readers who have written in to ask me who this Ancient Mariner was in my anecdote Thursday about Mrs Simpson. Oh Lord, don't they teach ANYTHING in school nowadays?

I guess Sam Coleridge had to make way for Maya Angelou. We are doomed, doomed. Very much like the Ancient Mariner.

Posted at 09:13 AM

THE PLANET WITH TWELVE SEXES [John Derbyshire]
That hilarious strip I mentioned from the old NATIONAL LAMPOON, about a planet with 12 sexes, was "Saturday Night on Antares!" by Ed Subitsky. Alas, nobody can find it on the web.

Posted at 09:12 AM

A DAY IN THE LIFE [John Derbyshire]
Many thanks to the readers -- more than 20 -- who e-mailed in to say how much they liked seeing me on Washington Journal yesterday morning. Even this guy:

"Dear Mr. Derbyshire---I have been a fan of your National Review pieces for a couple of years. I was very impressed with your performance on Washington Journal this morning. Although you are slightly older than my own father, you are one of the coolest guys in the conservative world! Having said that, please allow for a good natured critique. Please lose that jacket!! Although it may look fantastic in person, it was distracting to the television viewer. Other than that, I enjoyed your entire appearance and hope for your continued success!"

I will grudgingly agree that the jacket -- a loud English country-style sports jacket -- may have been a mistake. (How loud? One of my friends commented once about this jacket, that if I wore it while standing between two parallel mirrors, I would lase. Sorry, that's a physics joke.) I'm just rather attached to it.

There is a follow-up story on the jacket. After C-SPAN, I went to a New Criterion lunch for the British philosopher Roger Scruton, who is visiting these shores. Roger was wearing a jacket EXACTLY like mine. After his address, he took some questions (there were 30 or so of us at the lunch). In a lull in the questions I put up my hand and said: "Roger, I'd just like to apologize for wearing your jacket."

As well as the charm and interest of Roger's own address, I had the ggod fortune to be sitting opposite his wife Sophie, an exceptionally beautiful woman, in the pure "English rose" style -- one of those women who look stunning with no make-up on at all. Maybe there's something to be said for this philosophy business...

In the train going home, read about half of Roger's book THE WEST AND THE REST. Some terrific insights on Islam.

Posted at 09:11 AM

SORRY, ROD [Rick Brookhiser]
"An interesting note about tankers, beware of anyone who refers to you as a 'crunchy.' That is apparently the sound you make when you get backed over."

Hat tip, Instapundit.

Posted at 09:09 AM

GOING NOWHERE MAN [K. J. Lopez]
I'm glad Rich didn't run Jonah's Groundhog day cover ode again this time afterall: The NYTimes picked up on John J.'s excellent "Curious George" cover piece on Pataki today.

Do ya subscribe, by the way?

Posted at 09:07 AM

EASON JORDAN AND THE BLOGOSPHERE [Jonah Goldberg ]

Howard Kurtz's run-down is useful. It's going to be pretty wild to see how some major news outlets which never mentioned the story in the first place must now explain why Jordan resigned.

I also think this illustrates something very significant about the comparative successes of the Leftwing bloggers and the rightwing bloggers. The righty blogs have taken down Dan Rather and Eason Jordan. That is big game. The lefty blogs got this Talon news guy. I don't think this has anything to do with the skills on one side or the other. Give the lefty side credit, they're smart and they're tenacious. They're just as good at digging up old quotes, finding inconsistencies etc. as the guys on the right. In some cases they may even be better. So at that level there's really no difference. But when it comes to going after the mainstream media they really don't have the taste for it. Why is that? Well, the obvious reason is that they don't particularly disagree with the stuff the Dan Rathers and Eason Jordans say or do. Sure they may tear apart a bad poll or criticize a quote out of context if it suits their purposes. But at the end of the day, at the macro level, the fact is that the lefty bloggers and the Mainstream Media are on the same side of things. That is an important distinction which will drive the story of the blogs versus the MSM for years to come.

Update Tim Karr has more. Though in fairness, I was late on this story and really shouldn't be counted as one of the folks who brought Jordan down -- as much as I would like to be.


Posted at 07:28 AM

THANKS, RAMESH [K. J. Lopez]
for breaking the Jordan story first--on a Friday night, too.

Hmmm...think that was an accident?

Posted at 03:40 AM

Friday, February 11, 2005

PHDS CONT'D [Jonah Goldberg]

From a candidate at an Ivy League school:

Jonah, I am in a similar boat as your previous emailer. I entered academia knowing it was left-leaning, but dreamed of engaging in great debates. I never imagined what it would really be like. Academia is everything the Left claims to despise. Foucault wrote about how society demonizes deviant behavior (sexuality) by treating it in a sinful way. Well, the academy has done the same thing for conservatives. No matter where you go, introductory conversations always begin with a recitation of your liberalism and hatred for conservatives; in effect, making those with alternate views feel uncomfortable with their own ideas from the get-go. It is so pervasive and entrenched that you wither get on board or get left behind. For a conservative, it has been amazing to witness a hegemonic force at work, but I doubt the Left would ever admit that they have become their worst fears. As an American, I think it is a disaster for our country on multiple levels - it to some extent limits the number of conservative intellectuals, affects the minds of our youth, and leads to the coarsening of society because an entire institution has become a singular political entity, instead of an arena for dialogue.

Posted at 07:34 PM

PHDS [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Jonah--

Like your former correspondent, I want to finish my Ph.D. but I won't seek a
job in academia unless it's at a small college tucked away in a red state
somewhere. This is a lonely life.

If it were just me, I might try to make it through. But I have a family to
support and I don't feel like playing Russian Roulette with a tenure
committee.

I do take some comfort in the words of Harvey Mansfield, upon learning that
a couple of his grad students were passed over for academic jobs: "Oh
well, I guess they'll just have to go to Washington and run the country!"

Please, obviously, don't use my name.


Posted at 07:33 PM

PHDS [Jonah Goldberg]

From a professor at a major university:

To hammer a point home.

There is academia and then there are sciences. If you're a PhD in physics,
mathematics, biology, engineering etc. your political orientation does not
matter one bit. I chair a faculty search, hire a postdoc, and evaluate
prospective graduate students and I don't even know (nor do I care) what
political orientation they have. It does not matter!

The problem is not with the liberals in universities, the problem is with
the liberal arts: they are not objective disciplines, nor are they supposed
to be. Sooner or later they will be dominated by this or that kind of
subjective nons... errr, opinion.

And yes, we liberals do dominate the hard-science departments, but it
has nothing to do with a left-wing bias. I'll change my mind if you
point me to any right-wing think tank specializing in physics. :)

Cordially,


Posted at 07:31 PM

AP IS NOW REPORTING IT TOO [Ramesh Ponnuru]
here. The only extra they've got is that Jordan resigned to keep CNN from being 'unfairly tarnished' by the controversy.

Posted at 07:05 PM

EASON JORDAN JUST RESIGNED [Ramesh Ponnuru]
That's what I'm hearing.

Posted at 06:32 PM

"BE *MORE* MACHIAVELLIAN" [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Mr. Goldberg, Sir, you are not being Machiavellian enough. There's no point in applying Machiavellian principles to academia in isolation. You don't want more conservative scholars per se, you want more because they're good for conservatism. But here, Churchill is great. Think about it: imagine that someone wanted to defend the arguments of a hypothetical Middle Eastern scholar, and said something to the effect that he must be right because he's a tenured professor at a respectable university, Churchill allows you to point out that you can be a liberal nutjob and get tenure. Take him away, and whatever the benefits to conservative scholars, non-academics will have his removal thrown in their faces -- "See? Republicans really don't care about free speech!" Conservative intellectuals are winning battles (hell, they're the only ones who've tried to take new territory since the Beatles broke up), and liberal intellectuals have a Churchill shaped albatross around their necks. Don't mess that up.

Posted at 05:20 PM

CONSERVATIVE PHDS [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

Hi Jonah,

Last year I abandoned, effectively, my dissertation when I realized I didn’t have a prayer to even compete for a job in academia—simply because I have conservative credentials.

And let me tell you, I was totally gung-ho to go a-pillaging in the academy! But, alas, with what I thought were fairly competitive academic credentials, as far as my research goes, I was never even invited to an interview where I could be told I was a worthless conservative snake.

Sour grapes!


Posted at 05:14 PM

BUSH [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Not exactly a profile in courage here.

Posted at 05:09 PM

REID, CTD. [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Here's Howard Kurtz's take: "Just when the White House might need the Nevada senator to work out a deal on Social Security or budget cuts, the RNC is trying to demonize him." Right. Because Reid would be very likely to work out a deal if Republicans just left him alone.

Posted at 05:06 PM

REID THE ROOKIE [Ramesh Ponnuru]

I can't quite see what Senator Reid and the Democrats get out of complaining about Republican criticisms of him as an obstructionist. The criticisms almost all strike me as fair: Most of what the RNC did was to quote the man. He did say that the president's Social Security plan was DOA before Bush even gave his State of the Union address. Calling that obstructionist is accurate. But Reid and the Democrats are complaining that it's terribly unfair for Republicans to beat up on Reid. All the Senate Democrats signed a letter to the president asking that the criticism stop.

Various Democrats--Schumer, Durbin--have been quoted saying that Democrats made a mistake in not defending Tom Daschle when Republicans attacked him. I seem to recall that same fits being thrown about Republican criticism of Daschle, actually. But whoever's recollection is correct, what's the theory here? Does Dick Durbin really believe that he could have saved Daschle's seat if he had just said more nice things about him?

The Reid Democrats risk looking like whiny losers--which, whatever else you think of him, Howard Dean rarely does. They have already drawn more attention to the RNC's criticism than it would otherwise have received. They have in no way reduced the Republicans' willingness to criticize Reid in the future.


Posted at 05:00 PM

THE KONDRACKE DEFENSE [Jonah Goldberg ]

Andrew Busch offers a more detailed version of the Kondracke defense of Churchill; Let's not fire him, let's study him:

Instead of being fired, perhaps he should be studied and examined, much as one might probe the victim of a once-rare psychiatric disorder that has become rampant. Ward Churchill might be more valuable to the opponents of the academic left employed than unemployed.

Above all, he can serve as a living window into the intellectual, moral, and political bankruptcy of the left.

To borrow a point made by Brit Hume last night, Churchill isn't there to teach "how to be a parody of a leftwing jackass" or "I hate America 101." He is supposed to be a scholar and a teacher and a role model. It seems to me he's none of these things. Busch writes:

After all, though Churchill is now on the hot-seat, his opinions, or some slightly moderated version of them, are a dime a dozen in the academic world. He is, though he will hardly confess it, a rather tedious commonplace.

Yes that's right. There are lots and lots of characters like Churchill. And they, like Churchill, will eventually fall out of the limelight and continue to do what they do. There is, right now, no social or professional pressure to keep these guys in line. And by "in line" I don't mean they shouldn't "speak out" or "dissent" or any of that kind of thing. I mean there's no pressure on them to be professionals. Or at least there isn't enough pressure. There is bone-snapping pressure of conservative not even to pursue PhDs! I simply don't believe that the "chilling effect" on conservatives can get much worse. Meanwhile, the warm, nurturing, environment for champions of Jackassery couldn't be much more encouraging. Hang Churchill (metaphorically of course). Send a signal. If Free Leonard Peltier or Free Mumia types want to get jobs living off the public teet, poisoning the minds of students, fine. But at the very least let's make it just that much harder for them. It will still be far easier for one of them to get a good job than it will be for a decent, scholarly, professional conservative.

Studying Churchill like he was a lab rat isn't a good idea precisely because he is exactly that -- a lab rat. Typical in every way; the baseline. No one studies lab rats qua lab rats anymore. You only study them after you've done something to them. The only thing that would make Ward Churchill interesting for study is if you cut him loose. See how the other lab rats react. I'm sorry if I sound to Machiavellian about all this, but I've known too many decent, brilliant friends pursue PhDs and then get the shaft simply because they weren't interested in boutiquey leftwing causes.


Posted at 04:06 PM

TUCKER CARLSON UNFILTERED [Jonah Goldberg]

The taping went fine, I guess. But I probably come out sounding too hard against Bush because we were talking about spending and A) his behavior has been outrageous and B) I could never get around to getting any pro-Bush points before we moved on. It was a very fast segment.


Posted at 03:51 PM

NEWSHOUR [Rich Lowry ]
Fyi--I'm sitting in for David Brooks tonight opposite Mark Shields.

Posted at 03:33 PM

FYI [K. J. Lopez]
Apparently the baby was never thrown (the afternoon developments--I'm slow):
The woman who claimed to have seen a baby being tossed from a moving car fabricated the story to cover up a pregnancy and birth she had been trying to conceal, Broward County Sheriff Ken Jenne said Friday. The baby was never thrown.

Posted at 03:17 PM

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Posted at 03:15 PM

MEDIA-BIAS MOMENTS [Tim Graham]
As you head into the weekend, you might enjoy exploring the following topics in current media bias. Or they might make your head explode. You decide.

1. Does the media always reduce the federal budget debate into little heart-tugging political ads about how the poor will have their hearts ripped out by supposed Republican budget slashers? See here.

2. Why is a 30-year-old allegation of sexual fondling against a comedian considered "news" by CBS, but a 20-year-old allegation of rape against a sitting president is not? See here.

Posted at 03:13 PM

TNR ON AG SUBSIDIES [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Their editorial is just pathetic. They like the proposed cuts but hate Bush so much that they can't give him any credit for it. Their excuse is that Bush clearly doesn't intend for his proposal to pass, and the evidence they provide for that view basically amounts to their own distrust of him. This is not serious thought.

Posted at 03:10 PM

CHURCHILL [Jonah Goldberg]

From a reader:

I live in Denver. I'm following this Churchill embarrassment closely. Loved your article today. About the Affirmative Action issue, a local radio station did a Freedom of Information Request to CU for documents relating to his hiring, promotions, tenure and so on. It clearly shows that, at all steps along the way, his status as an American Indian was a critical component (in face, a requirement) (see KHOW.com). Looks like "resume fraud" together with "academic fraud" will be sufficient grounds to let him go. Hope so.

Posted at 03:09 PM

RE: SAFE HAVENS [K. J. Lopez]
Another e-mail:
I understand your point, but I see these Baby Moses laws as the last resort of a society up against a wall to save babies. You may recall that Judge Edith Jones cited these laws as one of the reasons Roe v. Wade's factual assumptions about the burdens of pregnancy and an unwanted child are no longer valid.

I agree that adoption-education should be the preferred course, but I cannot fault a state for having both.

Posted at 03:05 PM

TIME WASTER + [Jonah Goldberg ]
Impressive clip.

Posted at 03:03 PM

RE: SAFE HAVENS [K. J. Lopez]
Another spin:
I hear where you're coming from but I disagree. I think Safe Haven laws send the message that the citizens of State X have decided that even if you don't want your baby, we do. We won't charge you with abandonment, we won't fine you, so come on in and give up the baby.

Posted at 03:01 PM

LIFE SIGNS [K. J. Lopez ]
Just thinking aloud a little: I’ve never liked “safe haven” laws--legal abandonment of babies.

Here’s my conundrum: I want us saving kids. But do safe-haven laws send a cultural message that there’s no responsibility that comes with being a mother if you don’t ask a mother to at least hang out, talk to authorities? …I think you might save some babies lives but you send a larger cultural message—that infants can be dropped in emergency-room deposit boxes, etc. Nevermind the odd potential legal and other problems that could arise. In other words, does it do more damage than not?

Anyway, I am reminded of that in today’s story about the baby in Florida who was thrown from a car with a plastic bag over her head. The parents are criminals and better be prosecuted.

But doing the TV this morning the sheriff (I think it was, of Broward Co.) almost overemphasized that mothers can get rid of their children via safe-haven laws (which, admittedly, is a brilliant alternative to throwing a newborn out of a car). On The Today Show, though, Matt Lauer had to remind the guy to point out that what was done here was a crime.

Legal abortion, Peter Singer...legal abandonment...these things are very different mind you--the first two vs. the last--but there's an association...get my drift about the overall culture messages? I guess what I am saying is that I rather communities/states be expending energy on adoption-education campaigns. This is how you responsibly and easily give your child to another….

Posted at 02:50 PM

FRANK RICH [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Ross Douthat still reads him, so we don't have to.

Posted at 02:37 PM

WARD CHURCHILL [Jonah Goldberg ]

If you hadn't figured out from my column I disagree with what seems to be the consensus view among conservatives about Ward Churchill. I think he should be canned. It would be preferable if they could do it for cause -- i.e. find fraud, or malfeasance or some such -- but if not I still think he should go. I appreciate the arguments on the other side from a lot of smart folks, but at the end of the day he should never have been hired in the first place (has anyone found out if he was hired as part of a "diversity" program on account of his almost certainly fictional Indian status?). And while I understand the worries of a "chilling-effect" backlash, I think academic freedom would actually be better served if he were fired in the long run. Right now the left chills speech it doesn't like with impunity and there is no sign that they see any reason to stop. Perhaps if they realized that this is a two way street we might get some more appreciation for real ideological diversity.


Posted at 02:35 PM

OH WELL [K. J. Lopez]
An e-mail:
Hi KLO --

Yes, yesterday's Corner was a good one. But it would have been a GREAT day if someone (i.e. Jonah, Stuttaford, etc.) had slipped in at least one Star Trek post, preferably when you had gone to bed.

Posted at 02:32 PM

RICH RADICAL ARAB REGIMES [Jonah Goldberg]
One small -- or not so small -- point. If Derb considers it a priority to keep anti-American regimes from getting nukes, isn't keeping radical regimes from getting rich a good place to start? Wealth is a good advanatge when it comes to buying nukes on the black market etc. Clarification: By the way, my point above wasn't to keep radical Arab regimes poor but to keep them from becoming radical if they're going to become rich through oil.

Posted at 02:19 PM

MORE OIL [Ramesh Ponnuru]

Just got up-to-date with the Corner, and thus read Derb's last post on the subject (from 6:47 am). Two points:

1) The U.S. would not go to war with any regime because it refused to sell oil to some countries or even because it refused to sell oil to us. The Iraq and Afghan wars do nothing to make this fantastic scenario more plausible.

2) It remains unclear why you're worried about American dependence on Mideast oil given the other premises you've put in place (if, for example, the ability of Mideastern regimes to hurt other countries' economies has been "much exaggerated").

My view remains that sound policy should aim at keeping radical anti-American regimes from being able to sell a large share of the world's oil at state-cartel prices.


Posted at 02:13 PM

YES! [K. J. Lopez]
Just to complete the picture: Ward Churchill has been named an honorary priest by the kooky Raelians (of fake cloning fame).

Posted at 02:04 PM

ER ERRS? [Andrew Stuttaford]
Kathryn, Shannen - not really convinced about ER's 'anti-Christian theme' meme, but then I was still pondering the ramifications of an important and exceptionally busy episode of The OC and was not really concentrating.

Posted at 01:55 PM

'08 & ROMNEY [K. J. Lopez]
Looking beyond his current battle, an e-mail worth considering if you can even bear 2008 thinking so early:
Ms. Lopez,

I too have been charmed by Gov. Romney and, as someone who comes from the socially libertarian wing of the GOP, I think that he has the uncanny ability to bring cultural conservatives like yourself and social moderates like me together. The reason is that, as you pointed out, all of his positions seem well-reasoned. Never do you hear the nuance of some Republicans, who are obviously trying to hide their pro-choice position behind pro-life rhetoric or vice-versa. Instead, Mitt's social positions are all based on logic and reason (something all Republicans like) and usually end up as a compromise between both wings of the party that we can all live with.

Moreover, Mitt has proven himself to be a forward-thinking individual, not unlike Newt Gingrich when he was in his prime. When Mitt talks about education policy, for example, he understands that the biggest challenge our nation faces regarding our public schools is to prepare students to compete in what is becoming a global economy and thus maintain America's role as an economic superpower for another generation. This position seems eons ahead of anything Democrats are saying and even trumps GWB's compassionate conservative message on education.

And need we mention the electoral calculus of a Mitt/Hillary race? Romney would almost certainly win his father's Michigan (my native state) and would likely pull Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and hold Ohio. In order for Hillary to win, she'd have to pierce the red/blue divide and win the South, the thought of which is laughable.

And yet, all of this remains speculation, as I am one of those stubborn history buffs who has seen how the GOP selects nominees and remain convinced that either McCain or Rudy will be the nominee largely because it's "his turn." Republicans haven't nominated a dark horse since 1940. Romney certainly has a shot at defying history in New Hampshire, but I'm not putting any money on him just yet.

Posted at 01:42 PM

GAY PENGUINS [K. J. Lopez]
I fear what Derb will do with this.

Posted at 12:21 PM

REPARATIONS REDUX [Roger Clegg]

USA Today has an op-ed today that calls on J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. bank, which the piece says recently disclosed that two of its predecessor entities had ties to Louisiana antebellum plantations, “to seek the descendants of the 13,000 slaves who were accepted as collateral [I guess for the bank’s loans to the plantations] between 1831 and 1865 and make restitution.” (The bank has already apologized and set up a $5 million scholarship program for black Louisianans, but that “doesn’t go far enough.”)

I would be interested in Cornerites’ thoughts on how best to implement this obviously brilliant idea. Some questions: How do you track down the descendants of 13,000 people, most dead for over a hundred years? How do you calculate the check you present them? What if the descendant considers himself or herself to be a white Republican? What if one of the great-great grandsons had been disowned by his parents? What should the bank’s current shareholders think of this project? Since the bank “profited from slavery” but was not itself a slave-owner, shouldn’t we be asking any company (or its successors) that did business with any slave-owner to be making restitution, too? What if the bank also did business with the Union army or abolitionists? And, finally, what of the psychology of people who think it’s really a good idea to divide Americans in 2005 into villains and victims based on events 150 years ago or more?


Posted at 12:16 PM

EXIT STRATEGY [John Derbyshire]
"In the 20th Century, the United States won its wars against European and Asian fascism – partly because there was no exit strategy. "

Cliff: There was another factor in our victory against European and Asian fascism. We turned their cities to charred rubble and killed an entire demographic cohort of their young men.

Posted at 11:10 AM

A SPIN I CAN HANDLE [K. J. Lopez]
An e-mail:
Do not apologize.... Did it ever occur to you that we readers might need a break, too? And Friday is VDH-Day, therefore a little quiet from the peanut gallery is appropriate.

Posted at 11:09 AM

BREAKING [K. J. Lopez]
Arthur Miller has died.

Posted at 10:40 AM

READY? LET'S ROLL ONTO SOMETHING NEW [K. J. Lopez ]
For any of my colleagues who are around: Any Grammy favorites/predictions? (No Hank Williams, so I think Derb’s not a contender for this game.)

My only Grammy comment: DD wannabees The Killers should get something for the--ahem--unique Somebody Told Me, which once you’ve heard it NEVER LEAVES YOUR HEAD.

Posted at 10:39 AM

NO PICKLES [K. J. Lopez]
As you can guess, today's a little iffy here--a few of us are running around more than usual. But don't give up on us, and there's lot on the homepage. And Monday promises to be a sweet site.

Posted at 10:37 AM

HONEST PEOPLE HAVE READ IDS [K. J. Lopez]
And here is our editorial on the Real ID bill.

Posted at 10:30 AM

FACING DOWN THE BAY NEW WORLD [K. J. Lopez]
Here's my quick piece on some of the Massachusetts happenings on the cloning/embryonic-stem-cell front (and scroll down in The Corner for ranting on the NYTimes edit today).

May the light not all go out in Massachusetts! (It's been too long since I snuck a Bee Gees reference in.)

Posted at 10:25 AM

RE: RE :ER [Shannen Coffin]
K-Lo, The anti-Christian theme on ER last night was especially disturbing in light of a very moving episode of the same show a few years ago. Dr. Kovac, the Croatian doctor who we learned to be a fallen away Catholic at some point in the show, was in Africa to treat AIDS patients in a war torn country (another favorite soapbox of the show). He was caught in the middle of warring tribes and his medical team was taken hostage by the tribe opposing those he was treating. Several of his colleagues were being executed before his eyes. In one of the more stirring moments in the show's history, Kovac dropped to his knees and began to pray. The executioners were confused, thinking he was a priest, and he was spared. It was truly dramatic television and an unexpected twist from the writers of the show. Restored my faith in a dying franchise for some time. But I'm afraid it's on life support again.

Posted at 09:28 AM

JONAH, SORRY TO SAY [K. J. Lopez]
Obviously, the pickles made the difference. That and Drew Barrymore cinema. All the stuff NR has been known for for 50 years now.

Posted at 09:27 AM

T.C. UNFILTERED [Jonah Goldberg]
I'll be on Tucker's PBS show this weekend. Check local listings.

Posted at 09:14 AM

P.S. ABOUT THAT NYTIMES EDITORIAL [K. J. Lopez ]
Not once, by the way, do they use the word “cloning.” New Jersey legalized cloning with hardly anyone in the local media there ever using the word. The Brave New World forces are a little cowardly in their duplicity if you ask me. But it certainly works.

Posted at 09:14 AM

RE: YOU'ALL [K. J. Lopez]
As some of you who care have suspected, I do do that on purpose for the complete ignorant Yankee blue-stater effect.

Posted at 09:12 AM

IT WAS "THOSE BLOODY GERMANS" [Jonah Goldberg]
I think it was that comment that got the ball rolling right in the Corner yesterday. Plus the nice substantive debate at the end of the day was good to see. I got a lot of similar emails.

Posted at 09:12 AM

IT SURE WAS...IIINNNTERESTING [K. J. Lopez]
I got a few e-mails like this last night:
Subject: Greatest...Day...Ever?

K-Lo,

I've been reading the Corner from the beginning, and I think today might be the greatest day it has ever had. Substance and style, friendly back and forth, interesting detours, all mixed in with the usual good humor, and all at a very high level all day. Congratulations, thank you, and keep up the good work.
Thanks to the crew for keeping it real (carry on!). And you'all reading for bearing with!

Posted at 09:03 AM

GALBRAITH V. FRIEDMAN [Jonah Goldberg]
Earlier this week the Boston Globe ran a pretty tendentious piece about J.K. Galbraith's superiority to Milton Friedman. The battle is joined by TCS.

Posted at 08:57 AM

WRITING OFF ROMNEY [K. J. Lopez ]
What an obnoxious editorial in the NYTimes this morning about Massachusetts cloning. The editors begin: “Let's hope Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts was posturing for a national audience of conservative Republicans when he came out strongly for a ban on some of the most promising stem cell research planned at prominent institutions in his state.”

%#@%$!

I’ve already joked that I’ve been charmed by Romney. But no Boston reporter at yesterday’s press conference is going to persuasively tell me that he wasn’t impressed by how considered Romney was on the issue (I wasn’t in Boston, but listened to the audio). I wish he had gone all out and opposed using IVF embryos as well as creating new embryos for research, but he would have gotten nowhere had he taken that position there, for one thing. At the moment he’s really starting at a point where he’s reaching out: He says, ok, we can use frozen embryos. There’s meeting the other side at a point where they should be able to cooperate. And let’s look at all the many alternatives to using embryos in the first place.

See Romney’s problem seems to be—and I have no doubt this has something to do with his wife’s M.S.—he has really thought through this issue. So he gets it. He was citing that Dr. Hurlburt, who the bioethics commission had at their last meeting—who’s talking about another alternative possibility for the future. In other words, he just understands the issue just so much more than most pols and reporters writing on it.

Is he doing it because he wants to be president? Maybe. But I buy that he actually believes this stuff. And, to be brutally honest, he may fail, so I’m not sure as a political strategy it would be the world’s best road to the White House. But regardless, I think where he is right now is laudable and important and he deserves support from those of us who oppose human cloning, for taking this on.

I'll have a little more on this all in a bit.

Posted at 08:40 AM

THE DUELIST, KORANIC STYLE [John Hood]
From a Christian Science Monitor report comes word of a little-known weapon in the war against Islamofascist terrorism: theological debate. A judge and Islamic scholar in Yemen is visiting al Qaeda prisoners and challenging them to justify their behavior according to God's word as revealed to the Prophet. If they can’t — make that when they can’t — many of them appear to give up terrorism.

The strategy isn’t just cool, but appears to have yielded some notable, tangible benefits:

Some freed militants were so transformed that they led the army to hidden weapons caches and offered the Yemeni security services advice on tackling Islamic militancy. A spectacular success came in 2002 when Abu Ali al Harithi, Al Qaeda's top commander in Yemen, was assassinated by a US air-strike following a tip-off from one of Hitar's reformed militants.

Theological dialogue is no substitute for intelligence, espionage, spreading freedom with missionary zeal, setting a good example at home, punishing killers, and taking vigorous military act when necessary. But it is a good complement.

Posted at 08:18 AM

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Posted at 08:12 AM

AGREEING WITH RICH [Cliff May]
Re the need for more Allawis and fewer Zarqawis. (OK, yes, I’ve fallen a little behind in my reading – and my writing and my .. well, you get the idea.) My Scripps column this week is on pretty much the same theme.

Excerpt for Derb: “In the 20th century, the United States won its wars against European and Asian fascism – partly because there was no exit strategy. In fact, decades later, American troops remain both in Europe and in Asia. If America is to win the 21st century war against Islamist fascism, armed forces may need to remain in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places. For how long? I think Roosevelt and Churchill would say: “For the duration.” Or, as Churchill did indeed say: “No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.”

Posted at 08:09 AM

RE: ER [Shannen Coffin]
K-Lo, I saw that too. Ugggghhhh. It's only when preaching about "intolerance" that Hollywood reaches the apex of intolerance itself.

ER stopped being an interesting show years ago, but recently it has become nothing more than propaganda. Another annoying storyline is the crusade by limousine liberal John Carter (Noah Wylie) against "big drug companies," which of course do nothing to help patients, only make big profits at any costs.

Posted at 07:47 AM

OF COURSE [K. J. Lopez ]
Some people do think like that, sadly. I’m thinking Maxine Waters, who I overheard telling a group of sisters last year and an abortion rally: "I have to march because my mother could not have an abortion." And the indispensable Andrew Breitbart notes in Hollywood Interrupted that Rosanna Arquette bases her support for abortion on the her outrage that her mother was unable to abort her. She said in a Playboy interview: “Well, as a matter of fact, yes. And my mother went to have an abortion when she was pregnant with me. I mean, she was on her way, and then the nurse told her to go out through the back door because the place got raided and the doctor got arrested because it was illegal….”

Posted at 07:45 AM

THE ABORTION MOMENT [K. J. Lopez ]
One more thing on ER: Dr. Weaver said to her birth mother in their first meeting, "Abortion was illegal, right?" about when she was in the womb. Who the heck asks that? Like, oh, yeah, I should have been aborted. In a saner world, I would have been aborted. Maybe she is supposed to be that messed up, but I think the reality is the writers were just too focused on making their political points.

Posted at 07:43 AM

ER [K. J. Lopez ]
I was multitasking so not paying scene-by-scene attention, but basically the plot of last night’s ER was: Dr. Weaver met her birth mother, who was a perfectly nice woman, except for the fact she’s a Christian. The mother is an evangelical Christian who basically said “nevermind” when she found out the girl she gave up at 15 is gay. ER can typically draw you in (though to be honest, I've never been a regular viewer, just occasional), but this seemed more must-shove-an-agenda-down-your-throat than must-see-TV. Wouldn’t it have been much more dramatic to have them work through it—build a relationship despite their very different roads in life? Oh well.

Posted at 07:42 AM

ID MISSING [K. J. Lopez]
From that al Jazeera story on Rumsfeld's visit (yeah, I'm not sure why I picked that particular link either):
On Thursday, rebels attacked Iraqi soldiers with machine-gun fire and mortar rounds in Salman Pak, 12 miles southeast of Baghdad, police said, adding that 14 policemen were killed and 65 were injured in the two-hour gunbattle.
Everytime I see a reference to Salman Pak, I really, really want a "past home to a Saddam-era terrorist training camp" identifier. Not sure history will note that, however.

Posted at 07:08 AM

IT WILL BE THE IRAQI PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT A GOOD COUNTRY" [K. J. Lopez]
Rumsfeld's in Mosul talking future plans.

Posted at 07:04 AM

RE: OIL, ETC. [John Derbyshire]
Ramesh:

"You say that if radical anti-American types refuse to sell it to others, there are 'things' we can do about it and we have shown we have the will to do those things. I am not quite sure what you mean by this."

Glad to elucidate. I mean that we can attack them, defeat their armies, kill or capture their leaders, and smash up their infrastructure. As we have recently done to Afghanistan and Iraq.

"Anyway, I think it does make a difference whether radical anti-American regimes are rich or poor..."
That is an interesting point. Does it, actually? Would Libya (say) or Iran have been more, or less, of a nuisance this past 20 years if they were poor? Discuss among yourselves.
"It does make a difference whether other countries in the region and then the world feel they should kowtow to those regimes, and it does make a difference whether those regimes can throw the world economy into a tailspin."

Their ability to do so is much exaggerated. We survived '73. See also the excellent Huber article in the WSJ a couple of weeks ago.

"If you wish to deny that any of these things should matter to Americans, then it's hard to see why you'd be concerned (as you suggested you were) about American dependence on Mideast oil either."

I desperately wish we were not so dependent. While we are, though, there are feasible solutions that do not involve saving the world.

Posted at 06:47 AM

OIL AND MARK [Rick Brookhiser]
Anyone interested in Mark's idea may consult the NR special issue on nuclear power that I edited in early 1979. Three Mile Island happened a month later, and nothing since--a sad combination of cowardice and lack of imagination.

Posted at 12:31 AM

Thursday, February 10, 2005

RE: OIL [ Mark Krikorian]
John, while I generally share your sentiments on Iraq, I'm afraid Ramesh is right that even if we don't use a drop of oil, it matters a lot to us if Europe and Japan (and China) do. But this is something that can't simply be left to the market to solve -- the solution (making oil economically irrelevant) needs to be accelerated by the government, through much higher gas taxes (preferably offset by eliminating other taxes), nuclear plants powering electric cars, and a Manhattan Project level of commitment to alternative fuel research. This may sound like populist hooey, but we're going to harness fusion power before we're going to be able to bring democracy to the Middle East. And there's an obvious name for this effort: The Vasco da Gama Project, after the explorer who rounded the Cape of Good Hope, finding an alternate route to the Orient and rending the Middle East economically irrelevant for centuries.

Posted at 10:55 PM

AN EXPRESSION OF DISAPPOINTMENT [K. J. Lopez]
I just realized the day went by and only one person commented on the homepage tease for Myrna Blyth's piece today: "Myrna Blyth: Can Hillary make it with Bill?"

So sorry, on multiple levels, I had to point that out. Pride or guilt, I can't decide what drove that.

Posted at 09:35 PM

RE: MAP BLEG [Mark Krikorian]
Not to distract from the important pickle thread--or Iraq--but an alert correspondent identified the lake: It’s Bluenose Lake in Nunavut, what used to be the eastern part of Canada’s Northwest Territories and now an Eskimo homeland, or something. (You think the Eskimos are holding paper about the disappearance of the Bering land bridge?) This is why I only came in second on Jeopardy – I know a lot of trivia, but not enough.

Posted at 09:01 PM

OIL, CTD. [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Derb: You write that you don't see why you should care who controls it. You say that if radical anti-American types refuse to sell it to others, there are "things" we can do about it and we have shown we have the will to do those things. I am not quite sure what you mean by this. Anyway, I think it does make a difference whether radical anti-American regimes are rich or poor, it does make a difference whether other countries in the region and then the world feel they should kowtow to those regimes, and it does make a difference whether those regimes can throw the world economy into a tailspin. If you wish to deny that any of these things should matter to Americans, then it's hard to see why you'd be concerned (as you suggested you were) about American dependence on Mideast oil either.

Posted at 07:29 PM

NEW UNIONISM [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Don't expect it to amount to much on education, writes Justin Torres.

Posted at 07:16 PM

A EURO-AMERICAN RAPPROCHEMENT? [Ramesh Ponnuru]
James Glassman thinks so.

Posted at 06:58 PM

WOODY [John Derbyshire]
Ah, Woodrow Wilson. Just met him, as it happens:

"Professor Woodrow Wilson of Princeton realized sympathetically this great element of saving democracy in the Middle Ages, and has paid worthy tribute to it. He said: "The only reason why government did not suffer dry rot in the Middle Ages under the aristocratic systems which then prevailed was that the men who were efficient instruments of government were drawn from the church..." ----THE THIRTEENTH, GREATEST OF CENTURIES, by James J. Walsh (1907), p.437.

Mr. Sistani, call your office.

Posted at 06:48 PM

DEAN'S DAY ON SATURDAY [K. J. Lopez]
Reading Byron this morning I realized I remain in a state of disbelief about the Howard Dean thing. We have the nutty--Dean, Boxer--leading that party and the scary--Hillary. Is it too much to ask for a more even-keeled opposition?

Posted at 06:48 PM

RE: OIL [John Derbyshire]
Sorry, Ramesh, I don't see why I should care.

If Islamia is messed up, it's equally messed up for everyone.

The only negative scenario I can think of is one in which Islamia is overrun by radically anti-American regimes that either (a) refuse to sell oil to anyone, or (b) refuse to sell it just to us.

There are things we could do about that. They know it, and they believe (now) we have the will to do those things.

Shall we still, and will they still believe it, after a morale-sapping, prestige-sapping 10-year occupation?

The attack on Iraq gave us tremendous street cred with the kind of people who are impressed by major force. (Kim Jong Il disappeared into his deepest bunker for a week.) That was one big reason I supported it. We are now dissipating all that good capital.

Question: A few weeks ago, well before the Jan 30 elections, I read somewhere that it costs at least $2,000 to get from Baghdad airport to the Green Zone -- because of the danger. Does it cost less now? Or more?

Perhaps we could use the cost of that cab ride as an index of progress in Iraq. Someone should post it daily, like a stock index.

Posted at 06:40 PM

RE CRISIS RHETORIC [Jonah Goldberg]

Ramesh - I think you date the crisis years about ten or fifteen years late, though the Coolidge years were a deceptive parentheses. Most of the roots of the New Deal and the National Security state go back to Woodrow Wilson (boo, hiss).


Posted at 06:39 PM

STAYING TEN YEARS [Jonah Goldberg]

It's no surprise I side with Rich on this, but I would add that staying in Iraq ten years isn't a big deal. Staying in a dangerous Iraq for ten years is. We've had troops in some spots around the world for at least fifty years. Almost no one cares that we're in Germany or Japan because Americans aren't being killed there. If American troops are kept there as a geopolitical stabilizing presence, a la South Korea, but aren't being killed every day this won't bee a particularly controversial issue for us. How it's viewed in Arab countries is certainly a legitimate concern. Also, it's not clear that even if we stayed in Iraq for ten years -- or fifty -- that we'd be doing it with over 100,000 troops. Regardless, if Derb or any one else is keen on pulling troops out of places where they've outlived their utility I can think of lots of places which make more sense than Iraq.


Posted at 06:37 PM

LYNNE STEWART [Andrew Stuttaford]

Rachel, Lynne Stewart is, of course, entitled to her views, however repulsive they are, but I think ‘sinister’ is not a bad word to describe the person who said this:

"I don't have any problem with Mao or Stalin or the Vietnamese leaders or certainly Fidel locking up people they see as dangerous. Because so often, dissidence has been used by the greater powers to undermine a people's revolution."

The ‘certainly’ in front of ‘Fidel’s’ name is a particularly revolting touch.


Posted at 06:37 PM

SLATE-ISM [Ramesh Ponnuru]
of the day.

Posted at 06:04 PM

CRISIS RHETORIC [Ramesh Ponnuru]

I didn't see the Medved clip you mentioned, but it's true that crisis rhetoric (and moral-equivalent-of-war rhetoric) has often been used to justify expansions of state power, and is better suited to that agenda than to an anti-statist one. I think you can view 1929-1991 as a long "crisis era" in American politics. The country goes through a Great Depression, World War II, the Cold War, inflation, a crime wave, rapid and destabilizing social change, and many expansions of government. Then things settled down with the end of the Cold War and the diminishment of various social pathologies.

Interestingly, Republicans lost the House at the start of the period and regained it at the end. Also interestingly, as soon as the period ended, Bill Clinton failed to sell an expansion of federal power based on the idea of a health-care "crisis." Then Republicans failed in somewhat apocalyptic campaigns to abolish departments of the federal government and then to remove Clinton from office. I don't think that the war on terrorism has done much to make crisis politics work outside a narrow range of issues, because it isn't a war of mass mobilization. (And yes, these scattered thoughts do tend to reinforce your point about the utility of crisis talk as the president tries to win Social Security reform.)


Posted at 06:02 PM

OIL [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Rich, you're understating your case. The Mideast isn't important to us just because we use its oil; it's also important to us because the rest of the world uses its oil. Even if we ran everything on nuclear energy or windmills, as long as the rest of the world was using oil it would still matter who had it.

Posted at 05:53 PM

JEFF GANNON [K. J. Lopez]
The story is on CNN right now. It was on Inside Politics earlier. Is this really seriously a story? Maybe I am completely missing something, but Talon News isn't even really on my radar. The idea that the White House was using someone from there as a plant of some sort is just so bizarre. Why is Wolf Blitzer interviewing this guy (whatever his name is) right now? Why are liberal bloggers doing a giddy dance? Just all seems so nothingburger.

Posted at 05:50 PM

TBL? [John Derbyshire]
Heck with TBL. There's a Hank Williams bio on THS

Posted at 05:47 PM

DERB, [Rich Lowry ]
I know you are trying to be a hard-bitten realist, but you are leaving reality out of your equation.

1) Good luck on ending our dependence of foreign oil. When you've managed that, maybe we can no longer care about the Middle East and just right it off as central Africa or some place else strategically unimportant.

2) Once you have in any way signaled our departure, the security and political situation will immediately worsen. The bands that you will strike up won't matter.

3) We do need Arabs and Muslims to turn against radicalism. That is what ultimately discredits it. And this is happening before our very eyes. Look at those videos the Iraqi government has been creating of the kidnappers, humiliated and exposed as un-Islamic and the very opposite of martyrs. That is invaluable propaganda in the fight for hearts and minds, and they can do it better than we can.

Again, what you are saying is that the struggle between the people in Iraq fighting terrorists and one of al Qaeda's key allies, Zarqawi, doesn't matter. You posit this as a fight between essentially benign (as far as it concerns us) order and benign chaos. Nonsense. After your withdrawal with the bands playing you may end up, not with merely region-destabilizing chaos, but with a radical anti-American terrorist-supporting regime. You may say this doesn't matter as long as it isn't nuclear-armed. Since when is that the standard? The Taliban wasn't nuclear-armed.

Also, Iran will be nuclear-armed. A successful Iraq at least provides some chance of undermining the mullahs.

Finally, you are right if you mean that we can't fine-tune the politics of the Middle East. Absolutely right. But the broad policies matter. If you don't think that what Bush has done over the last three years in the Middle East has provided the opportunity for something better, you're looking at this through eyes that are way too jaundiced.

4) Yes, there is a nationalist element to the insurgency. That's why the elections and training Iraqi forces (granted, a process that hasn't gone particularly well) are important. Now, we're going to have an elected Iraqi government supporting the fight against these guys. That matters.

On Israel-Palestine, a solution would have a benign effect on the region by, if nothing else, taking away the excuse the Syrians and other have for their nasty little dictatorships.

5) Of course you are giving up. You may have your own rationale for Iraq in your head, but it is different one that every US official has been enunciating for the last year and a half. Also, you are saying a better Iraq is basically impossible, at least we can't influence the creation of one. So, you're giving up. There's not necessarily any shame in that. Lost causes should be given up. It's just that this one is now looking less lost than it was five months ago.

On Ferguson, I don't know if ten years is right. I want to get out as soon as a decent Iraqi government is basically capable of confronting the insurgents and terrorists. Iraq needn't be Sweden. It will fall short of Western political norms for a long, long time. But it still can be much, much better than what was there before. On one level, you are right. We can't “manage” Iraqi society--ultimately Iraqi leadership needs to step up and be responsible (that's actually what Sistani has been doing). But we can provide the broad environment--namely, some security against the return of the Baathists or success of the Zarqawis--that helps tilt the playing field toward success.

Last point--I'm in some sympathy with where you are trying to come from here. Some parts of the world don't matter to our security. Some societies are going to be more tribal and religious than Westerner’s would like. All true. But things do change. Islam looked different 40 years ago from how it looks today. It can look different again. (Suicide bombing as we know it, for instance, was an tactical/ideological creation of Khomeini--it had a political beginning, it can have a political end.) Eastern Europe, Latin America, Asia looked different. Another region of the world, the Middle East, can change too, but we just can't bug out now.

I've enjoyed this exchange! Now, about TBL...

Posted at 05:30 PM

RE: STEWART [Rachel Friedman]
Stewart--the radical defense attorney accused of helping her terrorist client, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, communicate messages to his followers from prison in violation of government-imposed security measures--was found guilty today on all of the counts against her, including conspiracy and providing material support to terrorists. Rahman, the “blind sheikh,” was convicted for his role in the first World Trade Center bombing and placed under strict isolation by the government due to his role as the “spiritual leader” of the Islamic Group (which, among other things, sought to topple the Egyptian government).

Stewart had defended Rahman in his trial and continued to serve as an attorney of his thereafter. A major part of the government’s case against her was a statement she released in 2000 expressing the sheikh’s opinion that his followers in the Islamic Group should reevaluate a ceasefire they had made with the Egyptian government a few years earlier (in other words, suggesting they return to violence). Stewart’s defense against the charges was that she was acting as a zealous attorney, protecting her client’s right to legal counsel and free speech against an overbearing U.S. government. Yet she had no reason to be working on his behalf at that point; her cause was a political one, aimed, it seems, at returning him to Egypt.

Mohammed Yousry, another defendant in the case, served as a translator (and beyond) during Stewart’s meetings with the sheikh; he was convicted of providing material support to terrorists for his role in relaying messages between Rahman and his followers. A third defendant, Ahmed Abdel Sattar, was found guilty of conspiring to “kill and kidnap persons in a foreign country.”

Stewart may have thought she was doing the right thing: She certainly doesn’t seem sinister, though she’s also said she doesn’t have a problem using violence to advance radical ends. Most of all she was overtaken by a wrongheaded ideology that led her to extremely dangerous behavior. Perhaps she realizes that now, but if so it’s unfortunately far too late.

Posted at 04:31 PM

READY FOR YOUR CLOSEUP, OBL? [Cliff May]
A former close associate of Osama Bin Laden is to sue film-maker Michael Moore for using his footage of the al Qaeda chief in the documentary Fahrenheit 9/11. Surely, OBL also has grounds for a suit, too. Or maybe Moore has been sending him residuals?

Posted at 04:28 PM

CLASS-ACTION REFORM [Ramesh Ponnuru]
It just passed the Senate, 72-26. It's going to become law.

Posted at 04:26 PM

CRISIS [Rich Lowry ]
Michael Medved was interviewed on Fox this morning. When he said that a characteristic of liberals is to manufacture crises so they can offer their preferred (big government) solutions, I couldn't help but guffaw. He might be right as a general matter, but in this season of the Social Security debate it was an odd point to make. It is now clearer than ever that Bush's crisis gambit on Social Security has failed. First, no one believes it because 2018 and 2042, the two most frequently invoked crisis-dates, seem so far away. Two, the crisis has nothing directly to do with his top-most policy priority, creating personal accounts (they won't have much of an effect on the financing of the program one way or another over the long run). Three, it has run counter to an important part of his message--namely, that the trust fund as popularly conceived isn't there. But Bush has reinforced the idea that the trust fund actually means something because his crisis-dates all have to do with the trust fund being tapped and then running out. So it's been bad all around. Best to leave, per Medved, the crisis-mongering to the other side.

Posted at 04:14 PM

REAL ID BILL PASSES [Mark Krikorian]
Jim Sensenbrenner’s border security bill to bar illegals from getting driver’s licenses, among other things, just passed the House 261-161. Forty-two Democrats voted for it and eight Republicans against. When the Iraq supplemental appropriations bill comes up, this measure will be attached to it and then the ball will be in the Senate’s (more hostile) court.

Posted at 04:12 PM

IKEA [Jonah Goldberg ]

This almost makes me want to take a Bush speech where he talks about the global thirst for liberty and replace "freedom" and "liberty" with "Ikea" and "cheap but stylish furniture."

From the BBC last September:

Three die in Saudi shop stampede Ikea

A stampede of hundreds of shoppers in western Saudi Arabia has left at least three people crushed to death.

A Saudi man and a Pakistani man were among those killed, officials in the port city of Jeddah said.

The incident occurred after shoppers rushed into a branch of Ikea to claim a limited number of credit vouchers being offered to the public.

More than 8,000 people had gathered near the store for the $150 vouchers, some of them having camped overnight.

The nationality of the third person killed was not given. Sixteen people were injured.

Ikea opened its doors at 0900 local time (0600 GMT), one hour ahead of the allotted tine, because of the large numbers of people who had gathered outside the store.


Posted at 04:03 PM

CLASH OF TITANS [John Derbyshire]
Rich:

On your points:

(1) Disruption of oil markets: Might be a good thing via a bad thing. One of the most depressing features of the US economy is our dependence on oil sitting under the lands of Islamia. As long as this continues, we are in a tar pit. And the lesson of 1973 & after is that it will continue as long as our politicians can finesse the situation somehow. One of my neighbors has an SUV too big to fit in his (1950s-era) garage. If the choices in the ME are (a) general modern-style constitutional govt, (b) general chaos, (c) continued despotism, I would certainly go for (a). Since I don't really believe there is much likelihood of (a) coming to pass, however, (b) and (c) seem to me about equally acceptable.

(2) Depends how you do it. I'm not talking about guys hanging off helicopter skids. I would pull out in good order, with flags flying, the band playing, and massive retaliation against anyone who tried to take advantage -- against anyone in a 20-mile range of our departing troops, in fact. After loud declarations that, having secured our national interest for the time being, Iraq is now up to the Iraqis to sort out.

(3) "Making a better Middle East." I think my main argument is the conceit of thinking we know how to do that. "We need Arabs and Muslims to turn decisively against radicalism." No, we don't need that, Rich. We need to make sure that no nation friendly to terrorists reaches nuclear capability. That's what we need.

(4) I doubt it. My guess -- I confess I have not spoken to any "insurgents" -- is that what fires these people up is the sight of infidels on Arab land. (Well, we KNOW that's what fired OBL up, because he told us so.) Continued US presence in Iraq is a continuing reminder of that insult, always feeding the flames.

(5) Who's talking about "giving up"? I'm talking about saying: "We came here to remove a perceived threat. It's removed. We hung around to help you guys get in shape, from a Christian sense of moral obligation. That obligation is, however, finite. We figure we can't do more. So, we're leaving."

Rich, the belief that we can "manage" Iraqi society in some way favorable to our interests is, I think, ill-founded. We have done what we can, and the point of diminishing returns is here, if not past. Niall Ferguson, who is intelligent and sober about these things, and extremely well-read in the history of foreign adventures by Anglo-Saxon powers, figures that 10 years might do the trick. Are you willing to see a 10-year US occupation of Iraq? I am not. Are the Iraqis? Is the US electorate?

Posted at 03:58 PM

RE: LYNNE STEWART [Jonah Goldberg]
That is great news. It will be great fun to see who makes a martyr out of her.

Posted at 03:51 PM

KICK AND TELL [John Derbyshire]
That story about Mrs Simpson apparently came from Jimmy Donahue, son of the Woolworth dime store heiress Jessie Woolworth Donahue and (my respondent thinks) first cousin to Barbara Hutton.

"Donahue was a notorious homosexual, at one time handsome and sleek but later florid and rather worse for the wear from drink. He had very bad breath, my grandfather told me.

"Donahue was a regular on the Palm Beach, New York, Newport circuit and was a close friend of the Simpsons in the late 40's and 50's. The friendship declined after Donahue became a little too familiar---telling cruel stories about WWS, alleging that he had an affair with WWS and it was not quite the thing... e.g., like sleeping with the Ancient Mariner was one of his bon mots.

"The friendship ended when after a drunken evening, Donahue kicked WWS in the shins, drawing blood. The Duke of W. ordered Donahue out and that was that."

Posted at 03:35 PM

THE PATCH OF LIGHT IN THE JUNGLE [Peter Robinson]
Commenting on the exchange yesterday between Derb and me on science in the USSR, this fascinating email. (I know I keep saying this, but it’s true: What readers we have!)
Mr. Robinson,

I graduated Summa Cum Laude from the Physics Dept of Moscow U in 1989 and then came here (I now live in Charlotte) after the Wall came down (BTW that was a great speech that you wrote!), so I have some knowledge of the matter.

The situation with science in the USSR was very uneven. Physics was generally considered ideologically safe because, well, it is materialistic, i.e. gives material explanation of the natural world and thus is hardly incosistent with Dialectical Materialism. In the early years of the USSR there were some ideological objections to relativity theory etc., but all that soon got abandoned. I think there were several reasons: 1) physics research was non-threatening ideologically (as long as physicists steered clear of philosophical interpretations), 2) utility of physics for making weapons was soon realized (especially after Hiroshima), 3) physics is a difficult subject about which Stalin and most of his ideologues had no clue, so it was really difficult for them to make any meaningful pronouncements, while those who had the ability and actually invested a considerable effort into learning it generally were not interested in making ideological hay out of it or perhaps just did not want to make fools of themselves by making claims that could soon be experimentally proven untrue.

So my education in physics was virtually free of ideology (although for five years I had to take courses in such wondeful subjects as Scientific Communism), lip service to which was largely relegated to forewords in textbooks which would typically just say that the textbook in question absolutely had to be written because the latest party congress resolved to improve the training of new professionals for the Soviet economy and science. Also, ever since Stalin conducted a campaign against "servility before the West" in the late 1940's, Russian priority in everything (including invention of steam locomotive, radio and airplane!) was discovered and some things were renamed - e.g. French rolls became Moscow rolls and some Russian names were inserted into some physics and math terms (e.g. the Clausius-Clapeyron equation became Mendeleev-Clapeyron equation). But that was about it.