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ichard
Brookhiser, historian, writer, and a National Review senior
editor, is author of the new book, America's
First Dynasty: The Adamses, 1735-1918.
Kathryn
Jean Lopez:
What was it that made you decide to write on the Adamses?
Richard
Brookhiser:
John Adams always struck me as an interesting character. My publishers
suggested doing more than one Adams. That meant a book on the weight
of the past. I jumped at the idea when I realized that John Adams
himself, even though he had no famous ancestors, felt inspired and
oppressed by past heroism of Puritan New England.
Lopez:
Who is your favorite Adams? Has your favorite changed in the course
of writing?
Brookhiser:
None of the Adamses are likeable. They are proud, envious, self-pitying,
and generally unfunny. You have to focus on their abilities, and
their achievements. I came most to enjoy the company of John Quincy
and Henry, because they are the best writers. John Quincy's diary
is brilliant he hates everyone and ought to come back
into print in a one-volume edition. Henry's book on the Middle Ages,
Mont
Saint Michel and Chartres, is a masterpiece: beautiful and
painful.
Lopez: What was John Adams's most important
contribution to the Founding?
Brookhiser:
John Adams labored for declaring independence at the Continental
Congress (as Richard Stockton said, he was "the Atlas of American
independence"). Jefferson wrote the words, but he pushed hardest
for the act. His services in negotiating the Treaty of Paris were
also a necessary complement to Ben Franklin's francophilia. His
presidency, alas, was a bust.
Lopez: What was the Adams-Washington
relationship like?
Brookhiser:
On Washington's part, distant; on Adams's, resentful but ultimately
admiring. Adams's letter to Benjamin Rush (November 11, 1807) is
a shrewd analysis of Washington's career.
Lopez: You have written that John Adams
was overrated as a president and John Quincy Adams underrated as
a writer. Was writing the Adamses' true calling?
Brookhiser:
Except for Henry, they all needed public service as their grist,
though they were certainly better writers than presidents.
Lopez: Why would a man seek political
office after being president?
Brookhiser:
Because you have something still to do, or a point still to prove.
John Quincy wanted to rebuke his enemies, especially southerners.
Lopez: How is Henry Adams "the
mirror of the nineteenth century"?
Brookhiser:
He presents himself in the Education
as the spectator of a changing world. That strikes me as too pat,
which must be why I don't like the book.
Lopez: You focus on the four Adamses
who were "great." What makes a man great?
Brookhiser:
I define great men as those who have a large and positive effect
on the world. This rules out both the "mute, inglorious Miltons,"
and Hitler.
Lopez: Was there any question about
including Charles Francis Adams?
Brookhiser:
Charles
Francis differs from the rest of the family, because he was not
hateful, and almost not great. He makes the cut because of his service
as Minister to London during the Civil War certainly a great
deed, which neither his father nor his grandfather would have been
patient enough to do so well.
Lopez: Are there any similarities between
the Adams dynasty and the Bushes?
Brookhiser:
One similarity is alcoholism. Two of John's three sons, and two
of John Quincy's three sons were drunkards. In the Adams finally,
it was either the White House or the ale house. George W. Bush,
and his daughters, obviously have had similar problems. Another
similarity is that both John Quincy and George W. are better politicians
than their fathers.
Lopez: You write about contemporary
politics, culture what is it about history that makes you
devote book writing to?
Brookhiser:
Since the lives are complete, maybe it is easier to learn lessons
from them.
Lopez: Thus far, among your books,
do you have a favorite?
Brookhiser:
Founding
Father is the best, because it had the best subject.
Lopez: Who is your next book on?
Brookhiser:
Gouverneur Morris wit, cripple, ladies' man, and draftsman
of the Constitution. How can you not like a guy who marries his
twenty-years-younger housekeeper, then tells an angry niece that,
"if the world were to live with my wife, I should certainly
have consulted its taste"?
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