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NRPLUS Conference Call with Five for Fighting and Rich Lowry

(NRO Illustration: Elijah Smith)

On Tuesday afternoon, Rich Lowry spoke with John Ondrasik, known by his stage name Five for Fighting, on an exclusive, NRPLUS members-only conference call.

John, the first professional musician to join an NRPLUS call, discussed the inspiration behind his newest song, “Blood on My Hands.” The song is a criticism of the Biden administration’s withdrawal from Afghanistan. It illustrates the shock that John, and many Americans, felt when they heard that Americans had been left behind in the hostile nation.

Rich and John also analyzed the effects of the withdrawal on women’s rights in Afghanistan, and how the usual suspects on the Left have been overwhelmingly silent about the crisis. John then answered a member’s question about how he became so passionate about the U.S. military. He also addressed the music media and its aversion to songs that stand up to those in power.

The pair also reflected on another song that resonated with the nation after a tragedy – “Superman,” which became an unofficial anthem for 9/11. John discussed how this song came to be so important in the healing process for many first responders and their loved ones. He emphasized the importance of music for healing, and how it is unlike any other kind of medium in its ability to make a difference.

NRPLUS members on the call also experienced another first: John performed acoustic versions of “Blood on My Hands” and “Superman.” Finally, John gave insight into his creative process and discussed his tour plans.

You can listen to the full recording above. Thank you to those who joined us for the call, and we look forward to seeing you all for the next one.

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