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Nikole Hannah-Jones, Learning the Hard Way

Nikole Hannah-Jones speaks during a rally to support a union walk out at the New York Times building in New York City, December 8, 2022. (Jeenah Moon/Reuters)

Nikole Hannah-Jones, the writer behind the 1619 Project, published an essay over the weekend in the New York Times Magazine detailing how she intentionally sent her daughter to bad schools and now regrets it. Today on The Editors, Rich puts the essay up for debate.

“I will give her a couple of molecules of credit,” says Jim. “Because if you think about this, Nikole Hannah-Jones has to say, ‘I bet my child’s future on these public schools because I believed in the abstract.’”


“It’s not easy to admit you were wrong,” Rich says. 

“She doesn’t admit she’s wrong,” Charlie adds. “Where is the, ‘Therefore . . .’? It’s not there. It’s a hollow apology.”

“Ideologically . . . she’s totally in the wrong place . . . but isn’t it better that we know?” asks Rich. “She could have written this and put it in her desk drawer.”

“Yes,” says Charlie. “It’s a little bit more virtuous than the classic job interview answer where you say, ‘My problem is I care too much.’ But it’s not too far from it.” 

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