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Later on in a discussion about immigration, Williamson suggested that conservatives may be coming around to reform, because the conservative establishment favors it and the grassroots don’t passionately oppose it. “I don’t think it’s as hot an issue as people think it is,” he said. “If you put the question of amnesty up, yeah, that gets the grassroots really riled up, but the question of the broader reform of the immigration system I don’t think drives people as crazy as things like, say, taxes or gun rights do.”